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scdreamer Feb 26th, 2022 06:08 PM

Arles or Avignon?
 
My husband and I will be taking a road trip through France in September - trying to decide which would be a better base for about five days in Provence - Arles or Avignon? We will find an apartment in the older part of either city and will plan to make day trips while we are there,

What should we not miss? What should we skip?

Thanks!

TDudette Feb 26th, 2022 06:37 PM

My vote is based upon one visit to each place. There was more to see in Arles. If you are a fan of Van Gogh, it's Arles. How about an Amphitheatre?

Ok, someone take up for Avignon!


KTtravel Feb 26th, 2022 06:43 PM

I think both places would likely be very enjoyable. I have visited both but have only stayed in Arles which I really liked. Hopefully, someone who has spent more time in the region will be able to chime in and give you good advice.

joannyc Feb 26th, 2022 10:23 PM

I enjoyed both. How about 2 nights in Avignon and 3 in Arles? Easy to do day trips from both.

Sarastro Feb 26th, 2022 11:04 PM

If you don't have a car, Avignon is the transportation hub of western Provence, and maybe eastern Languedoc. It really takes about two weeks to fully explore this area, so with only 5 days, you cannot see everything. Your itinerary will likely be a matter of what to omit.

scdreamer Feb 27th, 2022 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by Sarastro (Post 17337581)
If you don't have a car, Avignon is the transportation hub of western Provence, and maybe eastern Languedoc. It really takes about two weeks to fully explore this area, so with only 5 days, you cannot see everything. Your itinerary will likely be a matter of what to omit.

We will have a car - and about two and a half weeks to travel, before dropping the car and heading to Paris for a final week. I had thought we would explore Provence and then maybe make it as far as Bordeaux - thus the five days in Arles or Avignon. Looks like we may need more than five days in Provence, and that's fine. Our preference is to stay in an apartment or house - using it as a base to drive to various destinations within an area. I think packing up, checking in and out of places, and driving to the next wastes precious time.

We may be better off staying in a smaller village - have done that in the past (Bligny Sur Ouche while in Beaune, for example), but we've found ourselves a bit isolated in the evenings when doing that - few restaurants, etc. We much prefer being on foot after dark, rather than driving from one village to another for dinner.

shelemm Feb 27th, 2022 12:14 PM

I didn't think much of Avignon. Aix marks the spot! Though you didn't give that as an option.

scdreamer Feb 27th, 2022 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by shelemm (Post 17337776)
I didn't think much of Avignon. Aix marks the spot! Though you didn't give that as an option.

I'm definitely looking at Aix too - maybe split time between there and Arles. We should have a week at least, before we head to the Loire Valley. .

Sassafrass Feb 27th, 2022 04:07 PM

We spent a day in Avignon, four nights in Arles and three nights in Aix. Arles and Avignon are convenient, and we enjoyed them, but Aix, though not as convenient for travel, is right out of an impressionist painting. Great food too. I would definitely stay in Aix again, probably not Avignon, but a day and a night in Arles would be fine. I would also like to stay in Uzes sometime. We also stayed three nights in Aigues Mortes and absolutely loved it, especially evenings, after tourists left.

KarenWoo Feb 27th, 2022 04:25 PM

We have visited Provence many times because our daughter lives there. She used to live in Aix, which is beautiful with a lovely old town with lots of squares, fountains, etc. We spent a little bit of time in Arles and Avignon but probably not enough time to make a reliable firsthand suggestion. Aix definitely is prettier. Another place I love and would recommend to stay is St. Remy de Provence. It is lovely with plenty of restaurants and shops and squares and fountains. And close to Les Beaux. About 45 minutes from Gordes and Pont du Gard, and about 1 hour from Rouissilon. My cousin and her family stayed in St. Remy several years ago and made many day trips from there.

shelemm Feb 27th, 2022 04:34 PM

Although it's not on as many popular itineraries, Aix is well located for going up to Manosque, Sisteron, and Digne, all spectacualr destinations. I also adore the Fondation Vasarely in Aix.

mjs Feb 27th, 2022 08:06 PM

Agree with Karen that St Remy is a better location from which to explore much of Provence. Aix is nice small city but not convenient for most popular destinations.It is also smaller and easier to get in and out of in comparison to Avignon, Aix or Arles.

StuDudley Feb 27th, 2022 08:28 PM

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Agree with mjs.

We've spent 23 weeks in Provence in 7 different locations Get a magic marker and highlight every place you want to visit. Aix is our favorite city, but many more "highlighted" places are closer to Avignon. Avignon is our second favorite city, but if you stay there you'll be driving past some very ugly urban sprawl in every direction except west. St Remy has more restaurants than you'll need, and it is easier (and more scenic) to get in & out than Avignon.

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TDudette Feb 28th, 2022 07:07 AM

Since Aix is getting some votes, go to post #4 (and end of #3) to read the Aix part we sandwiched in our Paris visit. We loved the hotel. It had a spa, a pool, a resto, and was literally a stones throw from a parking garage.

https://www.fodors.com/community/eur...ndwich-446896/

Looking forward to reading where you end up going.


gaelle Mar 25th, 2022 11:35 AM

I have stayed in Avignon, Arles and St. Remy and vote for Saint Remy. It is really easy to get in and out of, there are many restaurants so you never have to leave in the evening. There is also St. Paul de Mausole, the hospital where Van Gogh received treatment. right outside the town From St. Remy you can easily drive to les Baux and Arles one day. In Les Baux you can go to the Carriere des Lumieres which is fabulous and there is a very small but wonderful museum of santons in Les Baux. Another day you can go to Pont du Gard and Uzes. Uzes is one of my favorite towns. Another day visit Gordes, Roussillon and LaCoste .....all pretty hilltop towns. I think St Remy is the best location for that area. I forgot Avignon but that is an easy drive from St. Remy. Only worth a day's visit. After visiting all those places, I would move on to Aix and stay a few days. Bon voyage!

zebec Mar 25th, 2022 12:04 PM

Yo SC,
Je propose Aix and especially Uzes, as lovely places to base. Anyone bound for the latter: we have a tip about an excellent rental there. Our all-time fave.
Another special rental that we could suggest is in Lourmarin. Very unique lodgings, trust us.
Added-value in Uzes and Lourmarin=superb farmers markets.

I am done. the townz

MaineGG Mar 25th, 2022 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by gaelle (Post 17347187)
I have stayed in Avignon, Arles and St. Remy and vote for Saint Remy. It is really easy to get in and out of, there are many restaurants so you never have to leave in the evening. There is also St. Paul de Mausole, the hospital where Van Gogh received treatment. right outside the town From St. Remy you can easily drive to les Baux and Arles one day. In Les Baux you can go to the Carriere des Lumieres which is fabulous and there is a very small but wonderful museum of santons in Les Baux. Another day you can go to Pont du Gard and Uzes. Uzes is one of my favorite towns. Another day visit Gordes, Roussillon and LaCoste .....all pretty hilltop towns. I think St Remy is the best location for that area. I forgot Avignon but that is an easy drive from St. Remy. Only worth a day's visit. After visiting all those places, I would move on to Aix and stay a few days. Bon voyage!

+1 for basing in Saint-Rémy. We have based there three times, twice in apartments and once in a chambre d'hôte. I love Aix and Uzès, but neither is as well-located as SR for daytripping around the region. I would not want to drive into and out of Avignon daily. When booking accommodation in SR, though, make sure you have an easy parking situation. The last apartment we were in was near the town center and had no parking. It was a bit of a hassle a couple of times to find street parking nearby.

shelemm Mar 26th, 2022 05:43 AM


Originally Posted by MaineGG (Post 17347211)
+1 for basing in Saint-Rémy. We have based there three times, twice in apartments and once in a chambre d'hôte. I love Aix and Uzès, but neither is as well-located as SR for daytripping around the region. I would not want to drive into and out of Avignon daily. When booking accommodation in SR, though, make sure you have an easy parking situation. The last apartment we were in was near the town center and had no parking. It was a bit of a hassle a couple of times to find street parking nearby.

I have heard this before, that AIx is not as centrally located, but I think it depends on 'to what.' If you want to drop down to Marseilles and take a boat to Chateua d'If or hike Les Calanques, or if you'd like to go to Manosque/Sisteron/Digne, then Aix is closer.

So I think I would say 'it depends.'

HappyTrvlr Mar 26th, 2022 10:38 AM

We stayed in Avignon and visited Arles. We wished we had stayed in Arles as we greatly preferred it to Avignon.

zebec Mar 26th, 2022 03:07 PM

HT, I agree with you. Avignon is nice and has its attractions, but it is fairly described as a big town. Whatever else it is, Arles does not seem 'big'. We prefer small.
I am done. the 'A or A?' thread


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