Are these Parisien restaurants worth it?

Old Aug 6th, 1999, 03:11 PM
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Lynn, what was the name of the restaurant near Porte Maillot you ate at 3 times?
 
Old Aug 6th, 1999, 11:42 PM
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John -

Relais de Venise

And under this name lit up in neon (white or yellow) are the words:

"son entrecot"

Don't hold me to the spelling. My friend told me it means some type of particular cut of meat.

As I said before in a post a long while back (and as you remembered), we ate here 3 times. On our second visit we asked the waitress when they were ending the special because we wanted to be sure and come back and have it again before they changed it. She laughed and said they had been serving this same thing for over 40 years! They're famous for it. On a Saturday night at 10 min. to 7:00 p.m., we arrived to join the line of mostly locals. By 10 min. after 7:00 p.m. the place was packed and there was still a line outside waiting to get in.

We saw a few people ordering other items but I kid you not, 80% of the restaurant was ordering the exact same thing.

Be ready to knock elbows. They literally pack this place so tight that if you are sitting in the corner, 2 or 3 people have to get up out of the way so you can sit down. Talk about character. This place, and the older woman who I assume is the owner, drip with it.

I LOVE THIS PLACE!
 
Old Aug 7th, 1999, 05:30 PM
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Thanks Lynn and sorry. I remember you telling me about this restaurant when you came back from Paris. I think I recall where it is. I never ate there because of the lines. I think entrecot is ribeye or sirloin.
 
Old Aug 7th, 1999, 08:46 PM
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As a vegetarian, I'm a firm believer in picnicking, especially in Paris. It's a great way to save money, too.
 
Old Aug 7th, 1999, 10:39 PM
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A loaf of bread, a jug of wine, and thou beside me, singing in the wilderness...Ah, wilderness, were paradise enow. Paris, smaris -- who needs fancy restaurants? It's the bread, the jug, and -- most of all -- it's the "thou" that make it all swing.
 
Old Aug 9th, 1999, 01:57 AM
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Lynn : Now I understand why you were charged such an outrageous amount of money for just a sirloin ("entrecôte") : Le relais de Venise is just opposite the Paris Convention Center, and the Méridien and Concorde hotel ; it thus caters to a foreign, expense account crowd of conventioners. Of course, I wasn't there, but I've never heard of or seen Parisians standing in line to have dinner at... 18h50, for God's sake. It's the time they serve dinner at hospitals ! It's why I would strongly doubt those people were "mainly locals". Last Saturday, I was having dinner with American friends, and as we arrived in the restaurant, at 8 PM, we were the only guests, except an another table... of Americans. By 9 PM, the restaurant was full of local diners.
 
Old Aug 9th, 1999, 10:50 AM
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Vincent:
I look forward to your opinions on London restaurants. The last time I was there, we ate at Italian and French places because we had a hard time finding a good English place.

I can understand your reluctance to engage in a book. It is a lot of work; and a real test for the ego when the reviews start coming in. At least in the area I wrote in, I had to wade through some scathing, anonymous comments. Some of them were even accurate.

But, keep your reviews coming in.
 
Old Aug 9th, 1999, 01:31 PM
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Three cheers for Vincent! He always brightens our days!
 
Old Aug 9th, 1999, 01:55 PM
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Hi Elaine-

I haven't been to either before. I have a friend who ate at Taillevent last year, he didn't have any complaints ;-) I have changed my reservation for L'Ambroisie though to Ledoyen. I read a really bad review of L'Ambroisie in the new issue of "Time Out Paris" magazine. This is my favorite travel source so I have to trust their critique of the food and snobby service. They mentioned Ledoyen as a top pick though. They also had good things to say about Taillevent at L'Arpege. I would try and find this magazine if you can since they rate something like 800 restaurants.

Best,

Mike
 
Old Aug 9th, 1999, 02:00 PM
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As an fyi, Time Out Travel Guides has a web site at: http://www.timeout.com/

Also, my above post should read Taillevent and L'Arpege. Oops.
 
Old Aug 9th, 1999, 09:51 PM
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........

Vincent, I'm afraid you have my post about Relais de Venise all wrong. I loved that place. It was the first place I went where I actually had excellent food. It was a little more pricey than I would prefer to pay but the meals I was complianing about were more like $30 pp and were worth about $5. I don't mind overpaying a bit if the food is good and that's just the way it is.

What makes me mad is when I pay extra and it's bad!

All I know about the Venise is, a friend of mine (not from the U.S., he's not American), lived in Paris for about 5 years and it was a place he went all the time. And yes, there was quite a bit of French being spoken at the tables. Most of the people were either locals to Paris, or, lived somewhere near.
 

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