Are there any places in Rome to buy fake designer goods?
Jan 18th, 2005, 11:57 PM
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Beachgirl; I was going to refer to that article too. I don't think anyone who has read that will buy fake goods. And I don't know about Italy, but police in France do have occasional searches at the border, and confiscate any fake items.
Jan 19th, 2005, 07:51 AM
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Many countries laws on buying fakes are surprisingly weaker than some here will have you believe.
For example, it may not be illegal for you to purchase the item (currently an issue in the UK). The illegal act may be the selling of it or the importing of it.
What we've also found is there is double standards from some posters onthe fodors board - they preach about not buying fakes on one post and then later on are asking others to bring them back fake Prada bags on another post - when challenged thay said that hambags were different to normal piracy (i.e DVDs are bad piracy but handbags are ok).
Anyway, what I do know is that my Genuine Ralph Lauren Woolen jumper was made in China, and that my fake Bvlgari Watch is now 4 years old - looks as good as the day I bought it and has lasted longer than the genuine Cartier watch which croaked after about 3 years.
For example, it may not be illegal for you to purchase the item (currently an issue in the UK). The illegal act may be the selling of it or the importing of it.
What we've also found is there is double standards from some posters onthe fodors board - they preach about not buying fakes on one post and then later on are asking others to bring them back fake Prada bags on another post - when challenged thay said that hambags were different to normal piracy (i.e DVDs are bad piracy but handbags are ok).
Anyway, what I do know is that my Genuine Ralph Lauren Woolen jumper was made in China, and that my fake Bvlgari Watch is now 4 years old - looks as good as the day I bought it and has lasted longer than the genuine Cartier watch which croaked after about 3 years.
Jan 19th, 2005, 08:40 AM
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Polo by Ralph Lauren is not designer, and I have no idea why he's let this diffusion "sport" range get so out of hand. His couture collections for women are very classical, and sadly their merit is detracted from by this rubbish that is churned out en masse...of course it's a big money spinner, but there need to be some morals in fashion.
As for Cartier, their cheaper watches (under 20k USD roughly speaking) have movements that lack any quality, their jewellery is, however, absolutely fantastic.
Aslo, I'd like to echo Robespierre's point. None of the pieces in my wardrobe have any external labels advertising the designer who created them, even my jeans don't have the customary lable on the back waistband. All successful designers will be able to create their own instantly recognisable style just with the shape/style/cut, without having to resort to naff logos - another reason why I don't like Dolce e Gabbana's collections, they're vulgar.
As for Cartier, their cheaper watches (under 20k USD roughly speaking) have movements that lack any quality, their jewellery is, however, absolutely fantastic.
Aslo, I'd like to echo Robespierre's point. None of the pieces in my wardrobe have any external labels advertising the designer who created them, even my jeans don't have the customary lable on the back waistband. All successful designers will be able to create their own instantly recognisable style just with the shape/style/cut, without having to resort to naff logos - another reason why I don't like Dolce e Gabbana's collections, they're vulgar.
Jan 19th, 2005, 09:02 AM
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Interesting thread. I agree that fake designer goods should never be bought under any circumstances. It's also interesting to know that you need to spend around $20K to get a decent Cartier watch. My sister bought one recently, didn't spend anywhere near that, and has had lots of trouble with it. Thanks MKingdom2! I'll pass this information along to her.
Jan 20th, 2005, 05:39 AM
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I don't understand the argument that buying designer fakes dilutes the market for the real thing. You're dealing with two completely different subsets of the economy. People who buy knock-offs are not part of the designer market; they will never buy the real item.
When we lived in NYC, we used to give fake "rolexes" to our relatives as gag Christmas gifts. Everyone always LOVED them, and a few are still ticking, 12 years later!
When we lived in NYC, we used to give fake "rolexes" to our relatives as gag Christmas gifts. Everyone always LOVED them, and a few are still ticking, 12 years later!
Jan 20th, 2005, 06:38 AM
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kswl, if you don't understand, please read all of the posts on this thread. The manufacturers of these goods are breaking the law. It is trademark infringement and should not be perpetuated. If you cannot afford to buy the real thing, do without.
Jan 20th, 2005, 08:09 AM
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Pirating can harm legitimate business. The most recent example has been the need for Burberry to virtually drop its classic check as it has been
a) copied to death
b) Become associated with what is currently termed the British Chav class
I would think Aquascutum are considering teh future viability of its check as well, for much the same reasons
a) copied to death
b) Become associated with what is currently termed the British Chav class
I would think Aquascutum are considering teh future viability of its check as well, for much the same reasons
Jan 20th, 2005, 09:32 AM
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"Designer" goods are a rip-off. There are better quality goods to be had at significantly lower prices everywhere.
I own Tumi luggage because it's the best-constructed on the planet. I also own some very serviceable "no-name" clones (not counterfeits) of expensive lines that I got for 1/10 the price of the "real thing." I also bought a $17 watch in Taiwan that has outlasted two Rolexes.
I do not use "stuff" to advertise to the world how important I am.
I own Tumi luggage because it's the best-constructed on the planet. I also own some very serviceable "no-name" clones (not counterfeits) of expensive lines that I got for 1/10 the price of the "real thing." I also bought a $17 watch in Taiwan that has outlasted two Rolexes.
I do not use "stuff" to advertise to the world how important I am.
Jan 20th, 2005, 12:07 PM
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read the posts, GolfBall, just don't agree with them. Again, people who buy the fakes are not buying them INSTEAD of the real thing. There has always been a black market, and it has always been a vital, unregulated part of the overall economy. That is a fact of commerce.
Jan 20th, 2005, 12:50 PM
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My dear, I don't know what you do to your Rolexes, I've several from the eighties that received heavy wear and they're still going strong, both from the Oyster and Cellini collections.
Incidentally, if anyone is in London and would like a ten per cent discount on Rolexes (that is impossible to get anywhere), let me know and I'll recommend you to a jewellery shop..nothing stolen or second hand.
The finest watches, however, aren't Rolex, but they're suitable for everyday wear.
Incidentally, if anyone is in London and would like a ten per cent discount on Rolexes (that is impossible to get anywhere), let me know and I'll recommend you to a jewellery shop..nothing stolen or second hand.
The finest watches, however, aren't Rolex, but they're suitable for everyday wear.
