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Are the EU carryon restrictions going into effect?

Mar 31st, 2007, 03:00 PM
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Just to keep the valid answer from Fodor alive so I don't see the same [email protected]#$&*# asked tomorrow.
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Mar 31st, 2007, 04:35 PM
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Below is a copy/paste of an e-mail response I received from KLM a few days ago for flights originating in the EU during May 2007.

"We thank you for your e-mail.

Please be informed of the following carry-on luggage policies:

Flights operated by KLM and Air France:
KLM Economy Class and Air France Tempo and Tempo Challenge passengers
are allowed one carry-on bag
no larger than 55 x 25 x 35 cm (l x w x h) and no heavier than 12 kg,
including personal items (i.e.
small handbag, purse or briefcase of max. 15 cm thick, walking stick,
umbrella, coat, small camera
or small laptop).

World Business Class, Europe Select and Air France l?Espace Affaires
and l?Espace Première
passengers are allowed two carry-on bags, one no larger than 55 x 25 x
35 cm (l x w x h) and a
smaller one no larger than 45 x 20 x 35 (l x w x h). You are also
permitted to take personal items
with you (as described above). The total weight of your hand baggage,
including your personal items,
is not to exceed 18 kg."

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Mar 31st, 2007, 05:55 PM
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What does "including personal items" mean? It sort of sounds like it means the one carry on must "include" the other items (they need to fit inside it) - but if that's the case why do they need to define them? The fact that they define them implys that they are in addition to the carry on bag. Now I'm even more confused.
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Mar 31st, 2007, 08:50 PM
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sounds like the "including" part refers to the 12kg weight.
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Apr 1st, 2007, 05:30 AM
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I agree the coach limitation is confusing. However, it is quite clear that two items are allowed for business. So why isn't it clear for coach? Perhaps they are trying to tactfully say one itme only. If I were flying coach, I would e-mail them again, asking for clarification.
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Apr 1st, 2007, 12:18 PM
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I finally find a listing of a country by country listing, as posted by American Airlines.

This will help one figure out the basic security requirements by country as some of the airlines are extremely vague.

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Apr 1st, 2007, 03:37 PM
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<<(The Council of the European Union rejected a proposal from UK)
and -
Doug_Stallings said:
Not entirely true, traveller1959. The limits were pushed back to November. In fact, these limits WILL go into effect, just not as soon as expected.>>

We still have not received a verifiable source of this information.

US Airways still has on their website that only ONE carry-on from CDG and the UK is permitted.

Where can the definitive answer be found. I'm coming home from CDG for the US on April 17 (the date that one carry-on was to take effect) and I would really like to know the answer.

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Apr 2nd, 2007, 05:32 AM
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Someone asked where I read about the deadline extension for carry-on baggage limits. I wish I could say I read deeply into the EU transcaripts and transactions, but I read it on a simple web site. Here's a link: http://www.eubusiness.com/Transport/hand-luggage.91/

Just be aware that simply because the EU as a whole isn't requiring this baggage limit until November that other countries and airlines won't impose the stricter limits sooner. The extension refers mainly to uniformity across the EU region. It doesn't mean that the UK or France couldn't impose much stricter limits immediately.
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Apr 2nd, 2007, 10:11 AM
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The link provided ONLY states the size limitation NOT the number of carry-ons.
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Apr 2nd, 2007, 10:39 AM
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I flew from BCN to ACG last week and then MAD to LHR. Both BCN and MAD had large signs about 1 Bag only, giving max size and weight. However, these restrictions were completely ignored by the local population (both travellers and screeners). Nobody looked at my baggie of small bottles of liquid. I never removed my shoes. And we all arrived safely (Gasp!) even though the luggage belts were broken in BCN, and we were sure we'd seen the last of our checked baggage.
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Apr 12th, 2007, 11:22 PM
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Thank you, Doug Stallings, for the link.

Indeed, it does not say anything about the number of pieces. Here is the main part of the article:

>EU puts off airplane hand luggage limit to November
15 March 2007, 16:27 CET

(BRUSSELS) - Airline passengers will get an extra six months before hand luggage will be subject to a new maximum size limit, the European Commission said Thursday, pushing back the deadline to November.

As part of new safety measures, rules were to come into effect in April that would have limited the size of hand luggage allowed on airplanes flying in the EU to 56 centimetres (22.4 inches) by 45 centimetres by 25 centimetres.

However, the European Union's executive arm has accepted to push the date back six months to give airlines more time to get ready, European Commission spokesman for transport issues Michele Cercone said.<

Yesterday, I flew from Barcelona. I had three pieces of handluggage (a large bag, a bag with three bottles of duty-free-stuff, and a belt bag) and my wife two bags (a large purse and another three-bottle-bag). It was absolutely fine.
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