Any concerns for Americans in Paris?

Jan 4th, 2002, 07:08 PM
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George, my kids love Paris because it is a kid-friendly culture. They feel extremely safe there, and we ride the Metro all hours of the day/night with just one incident in seven trips over the past three years.

This past Thanksgiving, we were riding out to Port Cligancourt (SP? can't remember that stop for the life of me) for the Sunday flea market and had dirty smelly drunks with cigarettes standing over us on the Metro for five stops shouting French obscenities at each other(that flea market wasn't much better, by the way--stick to the cute bird market on Ile de la Cite). It was such an anomally that we refer to that experience as a "NYC moment."

If that's the worst thing that happened in all our visits there, then I think you can assume your children are rather safe.

Jan 4th, 2002, 07:17 PM
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Gee, I feel almost afraid to let others know of my experiences in Paris! My previous message was deleted by - which I cannot understand. Briefly, I will reiterate that Paris has wonderful museums and sites but I was disturbed when my 17-year old daughter and I were spit at in the 1st by a nasty man. This took place near a gas station off of Rue de Rivoli. Also, a nice young woman on our plane returning home had been beaten near the Eiffel Tower on New Year's Eve. I realize that all large cities have problems, however, I perceived hostility towards us as Americans. My perceptions may be incorrect. But the facts are the facts as to what happened.
Jan 4th, 2002, 07:28 PM
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Ann-as to the spitting incident= that is terrible and unhappily can happen anywhere..with the language difficulties, who knows what was on his mind, if he had a mind, it is such a bizarre thing to happen that you should not even let it influence the way you think of French/Parisians in general.As to the girl on the plane, who knows the truth of that, it was a story told to you.I am sure there are people with lots of horror stories concerning their travels, but those are not the norm,nor should they be used as examples of the behavior of the people living in these cities...Parisians are just like New Yorkers or people from San Francisco or any other large city, they just speak French! (I know there are Parisians out there right now that are saying "Hey,hold on a minute-we are not just like New Yorkers!") C
Jan 4th, 2002, 07:49 PM
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Wow!! I want the power of a Fodor's policeperson. They just took 2 posts off here JUST LIKE THAT before I could even blink.
Jan 4th, 2002, 08:29 PM
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Emily -- if Algerians aren't Arabs, why is the official language Arabic and why does the country belong to the Arab League? How much do you know about that country? Arabs invaded it before the 10th century and much of the population is of Arabic descent.
Jan 4th, 2002, 09:38 PM
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well, um, if you go back far enough, we are ALL of arabic decsent.
Jan 4th, 2002, 10:00 PM
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The Jews too?

I'll accept that we all come from Abraham (or Moses) if you prefer. But I wouldn't go so far as to say we are all Arabic, since Arabs are supposed to have come from Ishmael, Abraham's son.
Jan 4th, 2002, 10:01 PM
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Instead of Moses I meant Noah. Sorry.
Jan 5th, 2002, 06:02 AM
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Just to reiterate - this will be our 3rd trip to Paris in the last 15 months. During the first two trips we found Paris to be very safe, and Parisians to be generally a friendly people. However - to assume that nothing in the world has changed since September 11 is very niave. There are countries that may have been perfectly safe and friendly towards Americans in the past which would not be the best choice to visit today. There is a lot of instability in the world right now, and we felt it was best to be informed of the climate for American's visiting Paris. From the majority of responses it would seem that Paris is still a good choice for a family with young children. But I hope you can understand why posts like Ann's might leave us with questions. Again -thanks for the helpful responses. Sorry you had such a bad experience Ann.
Jan 7th, 2002, 05:39 AM
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Just to add my two cents:

1) Yes, Algeria belongs to the Arab league, etc. but it is originally (as is Morocco) Berber, and not Arab. Those of you who scrutinise francophone media must be aware that there has been continuous and violent unrest in Kabylie, the area around Tizi-Ouzou in Algeria, with Kabyl people getting killed by the hundreds to have a right to speak their language, which has recently become the country's second official language (with Arabic, since French is not official, even if more widely spoken than in Morocco)

2) Unfortunately, some parts of France, and especially its underpriviledged suburb is a hotbed for Muslim fundamentalism. There was a very interesting article in Le Monde around mid-November about fierce islamic proselytism in French jails. BTW, Le Monde and Liberation are both left-leaning, Liberation just adding the "hip" factor to make a - slight - difference in political slant.

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