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kismetchimera Sep 12th, 2003 05:31 AM

ANGELS AND DEMONS
 
I just finished reading "Angels and Demons" by Dan Brown.. What a book! Is brilliant,is an exciting thriller , I highly recommend it!!!
This question is for those that has read this novel.
The author undoubtedly is very knowledgeable, but has anyone noticed that he made a mistake when he was describing a location of a certain place in the book?

amyb Sep 12th, 2003 06:36 AM

Didn't notice. Can I have a clue?

I loved this book, even more so than Da Vinci Code, and have been singing its praises where I can for months.

Also, his website, www.danbrown.com has some great pictures of all the places in his books (and the infamous plane from A&D) and background on his research. There's also a Da Vinci Code scavenger hunt that is quite good.

Mariarosa Sep 12th, 2003 07:01 AM

kismetchimera,
I just finished reading this book last month and I loved it too! I could not put it down! I got it because my friend recommended the DaVinci Code and I figured I shouldn't read his most popular book first. So, please clue us in, what is the location that is wrong? (I haven't stayed in Rome since 1994)...

kismetchimera Sep 12th, 2003 07:23 AM

The location is a church...

pj Sep 12th, 2003 07:47 AM

I read the Da Vinci Code first, just finished Angels and Demons last night!
The helicopter scene was too over the top for me, but I loved the book!
I was in Rome last March, Dan Brown describes the Tiber River as raging, frothy etc. Does it ever get like rapids? The Tiber looked pretty shallow and not at all raging when I was there.
Any more clues Kismetchimera? PJ

kismetchimera Sep 12th, 2003 07:58 AM

amyb,I became interested in this book after I read your praises about it.. Thanks, grazie, merci, etc..,:)

kismetchimera Sep 12th, 2003 08:06 AM

pj, of course the writer exagerated his description of the Tiber to make his scene more dramatic, normally the Tiber is not that frothy, unless of course ,the weather is very bad, when it does rain in Rome ,it POUR!!!The people in the others regions in Italy always tease us about the Temporali in Rome(thunderstorms)..:)

Joelleinitaly04 Sep 12th, 2003 08:10 AM

It had an interesting plot and that is the only reason I forced myself to plod through his really amatuerish writing style. Too many cliches and forced style, like someone in a beginning creative writing class. And then I was disappointed by the ending. I give the book mixed reviews but I don't think I'd read anything else of his.

kismetchimera Sep 13th, 2003 07:53 AM

To amyb, Mariarosa, PJ...

The mistake that the author made was of the location of the church Santa Maria della Vittoria, this is what he wrote:

"" Langdon and Vittoria observed Piazza Barberini from the shadows of a small alleways on the western corner. The church was opposite the them, a hazy cupola emerging from a faint cluster of building across the square..""

The church is not in the piazza, it is walking distance from there in another street quite famous, but at this moment i cant remenber the name. Also in this street , there are 2 more churches quite old and pretty.. I was surprise that he did not know that or that nobody also did not noticed it...
Ciao,
Kismet

amyb Sep 13th, 2003 08:00 AM

Good catch Kismet. I don't know Rome like I know other cities, so I think it sailed over my head. Glad to turn you on to this one. I bought Brown's first 2 (Deception Point and Digital Fortress) too but am saving them for plane reading on my next vacations! I read most of A&D coming home from the UK in May, and did that trip ever fly by!

nnrobnz Sep 13th, 2003 09:11 AM

Kismetchimera:
I, too, have read and enjoyed "The Da Vinci Code" and "Angels and Demons", the latter with a map of Rome by my side. I will be in Rome in late October and will try to sort this inaccuracy out, however, I do notice there is PIAZZA Barbarini and PALAZZO Barbarini....does this make a difference?

adrienne Sep 13th, 2003 09:41 AM

Hi Kismet,

In the Da Vinci Code Dan Brown described Versailles as NW of Paris, rather than SW! I'm going to check out Angels and Demons since I'm off to Rome in a month.

adrienne

lyb Sep 13th, 2003 12:34 PM

Kismetchimera,

I also really liked this book. I was in Rome in early July and I went to the bookstore looking for a book that would take place in Italy. When I saw Angels and Demons, I was thrilled. When I read it, I was so excited because I could picture each location in my mind.

I have Da Vinci Code but I haven't read it yet, but I'm looking forward to it.

In addition, I'm so hungry for books that take place in Italy now... I've discovered Donna Leon and her mystery books in Venice, and though I haven't read any of their books yet, I've seen on Amazon.com that Andrea Camilleri and Magdalen Nabb also write books with storylines located in Italy. Has anyone read anything by these two authors?

kismetchimera Sep 13th, 2003 05:08 PM

Yes nnrbnz, they are two different places, but both were in the honour of the same person ,CardinalMaffeo Barberini, known later as Urbanus VIII, Bernini protector.
The Palazzo Bernini was begun by Carlo Maderno, but was completed by Bernini and his helper Borromini.
Borromini did some small window and the Barberini Coats of Arms.The Heraldic symbols of the family were 3 Bees and the Sun.
The first upper floor of the palazzo is a museum now: Galleria Nazionale di Arte Antica, and house only Italians masterpieces from the 13century to 17 century.

THe Fountain in Piazza Barberini is also one of Bernini masterpieces, and this was to honour his benefactor Pope Urbanus VIII. The Fountain of the Tritone, depict 4 dolphins that support two valves on which is seated a Triton who blows water through a Shell.
Also behind the Triton Fountain there is another smaller by Bernini also , called the Barberini Bees fountain.In this fountain the symbolic Arms of Coats of the Pope are displayed.

To lyb,
tomorrow I am going to the library and try to find the authors that you mentioned.

To Adrienne, please trow a coin in Trevi Fountain for me, I was in Rome this past june, and start feeling a little homesick.
Buon Viaggio, Ciao
Kismet


trevi39 Sep 14th, 2003 06:10 AM

I loved the book and Dan Brown is an excellent writer.

laparisienne04 Sep 14th, 2003 09:51 AM

I try to read all Dan Brown books,I simply adore his style.

laparisienne04 Sep 14th, 2003 05:53 PM

ttt

llamalady Sep 14th, 2003 07:40 PM

I liked the premise of both A&D and DVC
but found him to be a very pedestrian
writer; however, I think Donna Leon
writes about Venice with great verve
and her characters are much more three
dimensional than those of Mr. Brown.
IMHO of course! <g>

amyb Sep 15th, 2003 06:19 AM

Lyb, I am hungry for books set in Italy now as well. I read Camilleri's first, The Shape of Water and enjoyed it. I have the next two in the "to be read" pile. It doesn't have the fast pace of a Dan Brown, but it was good mystery.

kismetchimera Sep 15th, 2003 06:46 AM

amyb,
I am not familiar with Camilleri books,anyway today, I am going to the Base Library and see if I can find anything about this author..
Thanks again:)
kismet


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