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Tulips Nov 3rd, 2018 02:33 AM

Yes, rijsttafel, just like Menachem said. It means rice table: Rijst Tafel.

menachem Nov 3rd, 2018 03:11 AM


Originally Posted by ribeirasacra (Post 16819225)
so whilst Europe has been a sleep I see our resident in Rotterdam has been putting everyone straight.
Good. How you stayed all night up for such an interesting subject I do not know.
However, the spelling issue. Maybe someone should correct wiki whilst they are at it?
English: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rijsttafel
Dutch: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rijsttafel
or even this on-line dictionary. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rijsttafel


My mother's in hospital with a severe stroke, that's why I was awake. After a few days of frantic activity, we found her a good place in a nursing home in Middelburg. Also, yesterday, we buried my father in law, so it was a full day, a full week. And lots of things to think about. Hence the insomnia.

menachem Nov 3rd, 2018 03:13 AM


Originally Posted by thibaut (Post 16819231)
Maybe you should sleep some more Ribeira, it could improve your mood !
For authentic dutch food, I went into some small toxwns where restaurants close at 6 30 pm and where the fodd is uninventive. Best to stick to touristy places in Amsterdam imo.


The best restaurants are those where tourists never go because they don't know that they exist and what they offer. That's why I keep pointing to iens.nl. But please let go of notions of Dutch "regional" or "local" cuisine. We've never had the concept of "terroir", because we're traders, and if we farm, we trade that as well.

ribeirasacra Nov 3rd, 2018 03:31 AM

menachem
Ik wens je Sterkte: Kracht, moed en wanhoop.
Met een overlijden van een familielid een leegte zonder einde.
I think that is correct my Dutch is not 100% and the wife is not around to help me.

jerseysusan Nov 3rd, 2018 03:45 AM

The restaurants I enjoyed in Amsterdam are mentioned in my trip report

https://www.fodors.com/community/eur...trips-1657023/

menachem Nov 3rd, 2018 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by ribeirasacra (Post 16819250)
menachem
Ik wens je Sterkte: Kracht, moed en wanhoop.
Met een overlijden van een familielid een leegte zonder einde.
I think that is correct my Dutch is not 100% and the wife is not around to help me.


Heel veel dank, ribereisca. Ik stel het zeer op prijs. Dank!

PalenQ Nov 3rd, 2018 08:24 AM

FEBO anyone? Not for a meal but a neat snack when walking around - they also have Indonesian food - bamis and nasi goreng snacks and really good ice cream or whatever sundaes. The automats are unique anywhere I've been - put a euro or two in slot and open door and take your treat.

menachem Nov 3rd, 2018 09:15 AM

Febo has croquettes, and they're pretty good, but the best croquettes can be had at Holtkamp on Vijzelstraat. One of those and you'll never go to Febo again.

Van Dobben, on Reguliersbreestraat sell their own brand and it is widely known that the "croquette sandwich" that is a Dutch exclusive for McD is also from the Van Dobben factory.


ribeirasacra Nov 3rd, 2018 10:46 AM

I don't think I have been to a Rijst Tafel ( no mater how it is spelt.
I have been reliably informed that the best one are to be found in Den Haag.
Moving on to the comment

For authentic dutch food, I went into some small toxwns where restaurants close at 6 30 pm and where the fodd is uninventive.
There is no English word "uninventive". What do you mean?

MoBro Nov 3rd, 2018 10:51 AM

Sorry I don't know where your hotel is, but these are the restaurants we liked about 10 years ago. From my trip notes:

"Two cafes on the same block as the Hotel Residence le Coin were wonderful: Café Katoen for a university atmosphere, and Café le Jarden, for great table seating on the canal.
Amazing dinners at two restaurants in particular:
“Stout!”, at Haarlemmerstraat 73 (www.restaurantstout.nl). Fabulous ‘foamy asparagus’ soup with shrimp, chateaubriande, fresh fish, dessert course, wine list. Very trendy lighting. Great service. We’d gone to the neighborhood in search of a restaurant called “Lof” which we’d seen written up. We didn’t like its atmosphere, but were lucky that Stout! was just across the street.
Also at “Restaurant Dining Eleven” we had a great dinner. It’s at Reestraat 11. Also trendy and contempory, well-presented and beautifully-served meal.
Another nice dinner at “frenzi”, at Swanenburgwal 232. Very simple and contemporary. We arrived shortly before 10:00p.m., when most restaurants close in Amsterdam, and persuaded the owner to sell us any left-overs they had in the kitchen! They put together a nice Caesar salad with cooked-in-the-shell shrimp and mango. Very nice.
Also a good brunch at a place across the street from frenzi—called “Puccini”. Creative salads and sandwiches. Very nice also."

Fishnlines29 Nov 3rd, 2018 11:29 AM

We happened by a restaurant called "The Pantry" and it was very good authentic Dutch food. Smaller and not the best decor, but delicious!

thibaut Nov 3rd, 2018 02:30 PM

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xcountry Nov 3rd, 2018 03:12 PM

Deleted? Never seen that. You certainly couldn’t call that uninventive:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/uninventive

PalenQ Nov 3rd, 2018 03:17 PM

Keuken van 1870 was also a mainstay of authentic Dutch cuisine for years but closed - it was known for very cheap prices too but closed several years ago and never reopened I think.

menachem Nov 4th, 2018 12:06 AM


Originally Posted by PalenQ (Post 16819508)
Keuken van 1870 was also a mainstay of authentic Dutch cuisine for years but closed - it was known for very cheap prices too but closed several years ago and never reopened I think.


That was a soupkitchen. Not "authentic Dutch cuisine", but cheap food for Dutch pensioners who otherwise had not much opportunity to eat out. Hence the cheap prices. Shaking my head. Really!

menachem Nov 4th, 2018 12:07 AM


Originally Posted by Fishnlines29 (Post 16819420)
We happened by a restaurant called "The Pantry" and it was very good authentic Dutch food. Smaller and not the best decor, but delicious!

There IS no authentic Dutch food. Or rather: the authenticity is how we adapted international styles of cooking to our palate.

menachem Nov 4th, 2018 12:08 AM


Originally Posted by ribeirasacra (Post 16819402)
I don't think I have been to a Rijst Tafel ( no mater how it is spelt.
I have been reliably informed that the best one are to be found in Den Haag.
Moving on to the comment

There is no English word "uninventive". What do you mean?


Boring as hell and badly prepared with cheap ingredients, for which you pay too much.

menachem Nov 4th, 2018 12:12 AM


Originally Posted by MoBro (Post 16819404)
Sorry I don't know where your hotel is, but these are the restaurants we liked about 10 years ago. From my trip notes:

"Two cafes on the same block as the Hotel Residence le Coin were wonderful: Café Katoen for a university atmosphere, and Café le Jarden, for great table seating on the canal.
Amazing dinners at two restaurants in particular:
“Stout!”, at Haarlemmerstraat 73 (www.restaurantstout.nl). Fabulous ‘foamy asparagus’ soup with shrimp, chateaubriande, fresh fish, dessert course, wine list. Very trendy lighting. Great service. We’d gone to the neighborhood in search of a restaurant called “Lof” which we’d seen written up. We didn’t like its atmosphere, but were lucky that Stout! was just across the street.
Also at “Restaurant Dining Eleven” we had a great dinner. It’s at Reestraat 11. Also trendy and contempory, well-presented and beautifully-served meal.
Another nice dinner at “frenzi”, at Swanenburgwal 232. Very simple and contemporary. We arrived shortly before 10:00p.m., when most restaurants close in Amsterdam, and persuaded the owner to sell us any left-overs they had in the kitchen! They put together a nice Caesar salad with cooked-in-the-shell shrimp and mango. Very nice.
Also a good brunch at a place across the street from frenzi—called “Puccini”. Creative salads and sandwiches. Very nice also."

It's called Cafe De Jaren and I don't consider its food to be any good. Nice for coffee and drinking, but not to eat something
Lof has closed
Reestraat 11 has closed and reopened as something else.

www.iens.nl has the most up to date listings. The restaurant scene in Amsterdam is so fast paced that 10 years is a long, long time.

ribeirasacra Nov 4th, 2018 12:30 AM


Originally Posted by menachem (Post 16819626)
Boring as hell and badly prepared with cheap ingredients, for which you pay too much.

Odd comment then.
Tourist should find somewhere that is more to their liking.
Most food, no matter where one goes, is prepared with "cheap" ingredients.
Restaurants and bars in The Netherlands are what I would suggest not the ones with the cheapest prices in Europe.

ribeirasacra Nov 4th, 2018 12:40 AM

One how many tourist who seek Dutch food have had broodje hagelslag?:lol:


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