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Amsterdam, Berlin & Vienna or Amsterdam, Munich & Vienna

Aug 12th, 2010, 08:47 AM
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danon, had to smile at that. When I was a kid growing up in San Diego, I thought that areas with snow just shut down for the whole season and people did nothing.

It's a real treat to see snow for me. My husband and I often take a vacation in the winter. "Wool" sounds cozy to me.
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Aug 12th, 2010, 09:08 AM
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thanks LSky... I don't mind the winter and snow ( except for driving), but hearing , for days, forecast like:" it will be -20(C) tomorrow, but with the wind chill, it is going to feel more like -30" makes one long for an outdoors cafe in Paris or Barcelona.
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Aug 12th, 2010, 11:38 AM
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how do you mean, annhig?

the buildings of imperial vienna are some of the most impressive I've ever seen. from the Hofburg to the Staatsoper, they are intended to imply wealth and stability.

why not go, and you'll find out!
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Aug 12th, 2010, 01:56 PM
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NanBug.. you might be surprised to hear that your winter weather adventure/ disaster in Andalusia was probably the warmest weather at the time in Europe.

In Germany, the temperatures dropped below freezing around Christmas, and did not rise above freezing until March. Day time temps of -10C/15F were the norm.
The sidewalks, except along major inner city streets, in Berlin were close to impassable because of a 2-5 inch layer of ice. It was like ice age for 3 months in a row. Actually, it was ice age.
Last month Berlin temps around 35-40C/90-100F had for 3 weeks .
Now it's August and I'm happy when it gets warmer than 20C/70F and it does not rain.

Weather is a bit nuts.
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Aug 12th, 2010, 02:10 PM
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Ach du lieber, Cowboy -- that IS nuts.

We'll see what happens this January in Naples, maybe Vesuvius will erupt for us?!
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Aug 12th, 2010, 02:25 PM
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" The sidewalks, except along major inner city streets, in Berlin were close to impassable because of a 2-5 inch layer of ice. It was like ice age for 3 months in a row. Actually, it was ice age."
Wow. In our part of Canada the winter was the shortest and mildest I can remember, we actually had a spring, and the summer has been hot as hell ( and humid).
Go figure.
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Aug 12th, 2010, 02:57 PM
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We just returned from Berlin and I am really partial towards it. Munich itself did not do it for me but the drive between Munich and Vienna is well worth it and the views outside Munich are stunning. Vienna is a must but, in my opinion, only for a couple of days. Berlin was really relaxed and made for a great holiday spot (we stayed for a week and did not want to leave), the locals are friendly, the food was great, shopping really nice and different from Paris and London. It is not as visually stunning as Vienna or Bavaria but it grows on you. And it was really hot although the weather forecast said otherwise, so as posted above you can never really predict the weather.
If you decide on Berlin, I can give you some dinning tips.

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Aug 12th, 2010, 11:20 PM
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I too am going to Berlin this winter - will be there for New Year for a couple of weeks - looking forward to it. It will be my first visit to that city. And like another poster said, I'd rather be in Europe in the freezing cold than not at all.
Have been to Vienna twice, including once at Christmas time, and it was just magical, am thinking of going back this time as well. Lots of decisions to make.
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Aug 13th, 2010, 08:07 AM
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Good point, Lsky.

Danon, that makes complete sense to me. Growing up in Chicago and living there as a young adult, I always wanted to escape to someplace warm.

Have fun in Naples, annhig.

lol, so glad to get your fresh feedback and thanks for the well-wishes. Why do you feel Vienna is best only for a couple days?

Hey, nz101! Vienna at Christmas sounds magical. Enjoy Berlin. Maybe lol can give you some good tips.
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Aug 13th, 2010, 09:29 AM
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Well, I visited Vienna almost ten years ago and the memories are a bit hazy but I remember enjoying the history and the visit to Schonbrunn palace but I did not get a great vibe from the city (which is a really personal thing). To be honest I enjoyed more of the Austria outside of Vienna like the Wachau valley, the trip on the danube to Melk and the visit to the abbey, and of course Salzburg. To me Austria is much more than Vienna.
When in Berlin, you have to visit a restaurant called Ottenthal, go very hungry as the portions are huge (the schnitzel is a must). We were not really in the mood to visit museums and delve into the history as much as to enjoy the local scene (we walked a LOT). We did go to the story of Berlin museum for a feel of the history of the city. We spent two days outside the city, one in Spreewald and the other in Potsdam. The gardens to Sans Soucis palace were really amazing but the palace itself was really absolutely not worth the two hour wait. Berlin is very friendly and is very easy to sightsee, we rode the 100 and 200 buses extensively. Also sitting on the cafe at the Kempinski hotel overlooking the Brandenburger gate was a great experience (as well as the most amazing creme brulee).
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Aug 13th, 2010, 09:49 AM
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lol, I feel the same.
I was in Vienna 3 times ( the last also 10 years ago)
Vienna has that "old Europe" feel , the best cakes on the planet, lovely palaces and museums, but there is something so vibrant and modern about Berlin .... it is hard to describe the attraction.
The first day in Berlin I did not "get it", but by the fifth - I did not wish to leave. Going back in 3 weeks.
The museums and galleries in Berlin are some of the best in Europe. And of course ....the history...
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Aug 13th, 2010, 09:59 AM
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Certainly! Just as there is more to the U.S. than NYC,Chicago and LA. A friend from Germany yesterday said she prefers Salzburg. Your restaurant suggestions sound yu um!
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Aug 13th, 2010, 10:23 AM
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I haven't been to Amsterdam, but I have been to Berlin, Munich, Vienna, Prague & Budapest (all in the fall, but not winter). If I had to choose 3 of the cities to visit, it would be Prague, Vienna & Munich. If I could do 4, I would add Budapest. I enjoy the more historical, old world feel, which is one reason I prefer these cities over Berlin. I enjoyed Berlin too, and it has some very fine museums, but I wouldn't be upset if I never got to go back. I would like to return to the other cities, especially Prague (have been to Vienna twice so far). If wandering the streets is your thing, I also think you would enjoy the other cities more than Berlin.
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Aug 13th, 2010, 10:38 AM
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I also loved Prague...although, it was July.

10-12 days is not a long time to visit 3 cities whith so much to offer . Every time you move it involves not only transportation but packing, hotel check-ins (outs) etc...
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Aug 13th, 2010, 01:34 PM
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Gosh, just reading all these posts makes me very excited about going back ! I cannot wait. Am really looking forward to Berlin - do not know what to expect from it. Personally I think Vienna warrants more than just a couple of days. I spent two full days in the city and didn't see it all. I thought the city had a great atmosphere and it was all decked out with the most amazing Christmas decorations. Of course there is much more to Austria than just Vienna, and I agree that the wachau valley is stunning. Personally i love all of Austria - its so gorgeous. I was in Prague a couple of days after Christmas and honestly I thought I had stepped into a fairytale - the main square was once again, all decked out for Christmas - lots of people enjoying themselves, real festive atmosphere - we got on a horse and carriage ride, it was dark by then, and beautiful, I said to my husband, now all we need is snow - and it did. One of the most magical experiences of my life I have to say. Really, I don't think you will go wrong wherever you decide to go - each city has its own uniqueness.
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Aug 13th, 2010, 03:43 PM
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Ahhh. So many destinations, so little time. With all this discussion, I wish we had a month to visit several cities.
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Aug 15th, 2010, 04:06 AM
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Of these cities, my favorite is Berlin and my least favorite is Vienna. I also enjoy Munich and have not yet been to Amsterdam.

Berlin is endlessly fascinating to me (3 trips so far) and has such a diverse range of things to see and do. It is also a wonderful value.

I have been once in summer, once in fall and last year we visited in late November. We are returning again same time this year.

There are interesting day trip options from Berlin as well that make it a great base for a longer stay, IMO.

Munich is also a great place to base for a week with lots to do in the city as well as many places to visit on day trips very easily. Tegernsee, Chiemsee, Mittenwald, Fussen, Garmisch, Nuremberg, and much more, all an easy journey for the day.

I have been to Vienna a few times and find it pretty but not particularly welcoming (the opposite in fact) and also quite expensive.
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Aug 15th, 2010, 04:59 AM
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Amsterdam can be magical in winter.
If we get a cold one again then the canals freeze and skating is possible. The skies are blue and it is often sunny.
It can be cold, but no where near as cold as New York or Chicago. It can be snowy, but again nowhere near as bad as in the US. Amsterdam actually copes pretty well with snow unlike many cities which don't get it regularly, unless it really gets dumped on, in which case any city will struggle initially.
It can be wet, and dark, and miserable weather, but there is always enough to do indoors. It can be clear and bright and cold, in which case there is plenty to do outside too.

Do remember the daylight hours are limited in January/February but don't let that put you off.
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