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WOW! we will definitely look into these. Sounds really cool!
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Some houseboats are plagued with plumbing problems I understand so check reviews from say TripAdvisor, etc. before settling on one - any location in the Jordaan is superb so location does not matter much.
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However - so few of the rentals show that they are actually in the Jordaan. This is the area that we want to locate!
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the jordaan hasn't much in the way of canals, as it's outside the canal ring, beyond prinsengracht.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordaan
Jordaan don't have many canals - look at the map - it is full of canals if this map is really of the Jordaan. |
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PalenQ, I used to live on 2e Lindendwarsstraat, so right in the middle of the Jordaan. Bloemgracht etc are too narrow for houseboats. Those are on Prinsengracht, so outside of Jordaan. There used to be more canals in the 19th century (Lindengracht, Palmgracht, Westerstraat) and these were all filled in because of unsanitary conditions ie they were open sewers.
Any houseboat rented will be on Prinsengracht, or on Brouwersgracht, on the edge of Jordaan, not in it. Brouwersgracht would be the preferred location by the way, because of its proximity to Haarlemmerstraat. |
This is great location information. I also enjoyed the thread that PalenQ posted as it addressed a big concern: Hot water and musty smelling boats! I also have the issue that my husband is 6'5" and I fear he may not "fit". I sure want a houseboat to work, though. I look forward to further suggestions.
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Well the Dutch are the tallest people in the world I think or just about so houseboats may be make for tallish guys.
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Let's hope so!
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Ok, we located an interesting houseboat with 2.45 ceiling height. However--it is in oude Houthaven. Is this the more industrial section of town, or a nice location? I definitely do not want lots of movement in the water, either.
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Well it is IME not the dreamy canals lined with ancient facades but yes a more commercial area - not sure there would be that much noisy unless you are right on the big harbor as some houseboats there are - some are more like hotels - it's a houseboat but I would think not in the dreamy areas most would like.
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Houthaven is a longish way from the city centre, and public transport there can be sporadic, especially in the evenings. Oude Houthaven is rather closer to the centre, as PalenQ indicates, but Houthaven proper is farther. If it's behind Van Diemenstraat: perfectly acceptable, but if it's behind Tasmanstraat, I'd pass.
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If it's this one http://www.homeaway.com/vacation-rental/p1051850#map it's in Oude Houthaven.
Prinseneiland is directly behind, which is nice, but public transport is not so good there. Only one bus, and lots of gaps at night, so if you're out on the town, expect to walk back. You must weigh if you want that. |
the facilities look smashingly nice but the location is inconvenient and not the dreamy canals associated with more traditional house boats - in fact this looks more like a ship converted to a hotel - which is fine but not the dreamy houseboat experience and the area is one of the least attractive in Amsterdam IME - lack of public transit could be a detriment.
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Prinseneiland is exceedingly beautiful though...
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We based 6 nights in Haarlem and took day trips to Amsterdam, Delft and Utrecht. We enjoyed the slower pace of Haarlem as well as the savings of a hotel outside of Amsterdam (we stayed at Stemples, room 21 and loved it). This was on the advice of a Dutch neighbor. For us it was an ideal arrangement.
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https://www.google.com/search?q=prin...=1600&bih=1075
Yes Prinseneiland is one of Amsterdam's hidden, from most tourists who at most see it from a train going into or out of Amsterdam - I've walked around there many times - quaint for sure and I believe a tram line terminates there so maybe public transit ain't bad then to that hotel ship. Westerpark across the bridge to the south is also a gem - come here to see Amsterdam's Turkish and other Muslem communities outside in their traditional garb on a nice day. the area south of Westerpark and to the east a bit used to be the den of many alternative life styles and a touch of that alternate lifestyle hangs on though the old buildings that once were famous squats in the 70s are now upscale flats it seems. this could be a sweet sweet place to stay come to think of it! https://www.google.com/search?q=west...=1600&bih=1075 |
Ok--this helps SO much - I will cancel the thought of the oude Houthaven boat (and yes, Menachem - you found the boat we were looking at). SO--back to the drawing board. There are SO MANY apts and boats for rent in AMS!! rather overwhelming, actually. I'm anxious to find the perfect fit and move on to planning the trip! Knowing areas to focus in on, though, helps. I'll report in after looking around some more.
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what are thoughts on making Haarlem the base for 5 days?
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<what are thoughts on making Haarlem the base for 5 days?>
That was the subject of my post at 3:57 Here is a link to my TR that goes into greater detail: http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...nd-utrecht.cfm |
PalenQ, the number 3 tram terminates at Zoutkeetsgracht, which is at exactly the opposite end from Houthaven, so that tram isn't of any help, the closer to van Diemenstraat you get.
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danon5 - I have based in Haarlem for the past several visits to Amsterdam - I find it a more Dutch city a more real city and prices much lower for similar accommodations than in Amsterdam. Just a 20-minute train ride from Amsterdam and trains roll all the time - also a good base for visiting other places like Zaans Schanse, Alkmaar and its famous Firday morning Cheese Market, Delft, etc. Great rail links and also a direct bus to Schiphol Airport for arriving or departing easily from Haarlem or getting to Haarlem for your first night.
Haarlem is a dreamy town - don't miss it even if you stay in Amsterdam, which if I were a first-time visitor I would urge you to do - a place you can if spending most of your time in Amsterdam you can easily go back to during the day and go out at night after a rest, etc. |
well--after reading these blogs, I think we'll locate in Haarlem! It looks just amazing and we like that it is smaller. So --any personal suggestions on apartments to rent in Haarlem? Is the city center the best area to search for?
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PalenQ --can you adjust our bike trips out of Haarlem now?
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We have our search narrowed to 2 apartments in the city center of Haarlem. we are just waiting on confirmations. Can we easily adjust the bike trip recommendations to leaving from Haarlem? we like the idea of biking in one direction and taking the train back as it seems we can cover more ground that way. Also --any insider tips of things to see/do in Haarlem??
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http://www.corrietenboom.com/
Haarlem's Anne Frank House! http://www.franshalsmuseum.nl/nl/ Frans Hal Museum even if not into Dutch Masters paintings - the lavish house is worth the trip. These are Haarlem's two main sights to me besides the Grote Markt - the main square and Grote Kerk - big church on it - otherwise just wander the canals and picturesque back alleys - well there is also the Hash Museum if you have a high interest - pun intended - in cannabis - Haarlem is know as Cannabis City for its long role in spurring the Dutch coffeeshop experience - where cannabis is de-factolly legally sold and smoked. Lots of those in town too. I'll go over a few bike trips I have taken later and if spaarne, a Fodorite who lived in Haarlem for a spell and also did biking chimes in you'll get another perspective. The Vroom and Dreesman department store on the main pedestrian drag has a great top-floor cafeteria with low prices, down-home Dutch food and views over the city. The VVV or Tourist Office is at the southern end of the pedestrian shopping zone - pick up detailed maps there for biking and advice. Bikes can be rented at the train station. |
AWESOME---I will continue to check in for your bike trip advice and perhaps those of your Fodorite friend.
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A favorite bike trip from Haarlem would go thru the heart of the flower fields to Lisse, passing the Keukenhof, the famous gardens only open in parts of April and May though at times in late summer too.
The route goes via Hillegom on back roads right thru the heart of the flower fields and at any time of year - well in warm weather there will be seas of pulchritudinous blooms for miles the eye can see. You can bike all the way to Leiden and put your bike on a train to return to Haarlem - Leiden is a wonderful old city well worth a look around - lots of neat canals and a neat city center. https://maps.google.com/maps?q=googl...ed=0CCoQ8gEwAA |
I have also biked from Haarlem to Zaandvort, the premier seaside beach area in Holland and always packed on a nice day in summer. The bike path partly goes thru wild dunes.
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Any suggestions on a carrier in the Netherlands --or , should we take the train to Copenhagen and depart from there?>
there is an overnight train between Amsterdam and Copenhagen, to me one of the nicest cities in Europe - spend a day there and move on the short distance to Oslo then take one of Europe's most dramatically scenic trains to Bergen. https://www.google.com/search?q=oslo...=1600&bih=1075 |
PalenQ - we are looking at two apartments one is Haarlem-House Short Stay and the second is called Short Stay Haarlem. Do you know either of these? Would it help for me to identify the street they are on?
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they seem to be the same place and they are well located, not right in the city centre but on a canal just opposite it - seems fairly close to the train station. Location looks nice as do the photos of the flats.
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The apartments look nice but IMO it is better to be near the Grote Markt which is where much of the action is. The prices look similar to those of Stempel's Hotel which is across from the cathedral and just around the corner from the Grote Markt. Stempel's is a wonderful and atmospheric hotel with large modern rooms, very comfortable beds and a free workstation in the room (at least in the superior room) The location can't be beat and it is a nice 10-15 walk to the train station. It is also a block from the river. I would prefer not to stay in the station area.
Stempel's price does not include breakfast but the breakfast at extra cost is well worth it - one of the best we have ever had at a hotel buffet. |
If you would like to rent a bike or do a tour in Amsterdam, in the city centre or on the country side of the north part of Amsterdam. Visit www.thekingofamsterdam.nl they are only 250m from the Central Station, they have amazing tours and the lowest prices for bike rental. For accomadation see www.bbwelcome2amsterdam.nl they are also very close to the Central Station on the Northside of town. The ferry from the Central Station to the Northside is free and goes back and forth 24/7.
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