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Americans:if the E.U. opens this summer will you go?

Old Apr 29th, 2021, 09:45 AM
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My husband turns 50 this summer, and we had grand plans to visit Belgium and the Netherlands to visit Trappist breweries this summer in celebration of his birthday, but we will wait. I think we will do it next spring. This year, we'll probably stick to the US. We don't have any firm plans though.
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Old Apr 29th, 2021, 11:08 AM
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Today we resurrected our Verona trip for September. We will follow that with 5 nights on Santorini. I was able to book full refundable flights on Delta as well as on Lufthansa for the Verona-Santorini portion. This is, of course, hurricane season in Florida and the beginning of the most active portion. If one is imminent or Verona itself cancels, well that's the chance one takes. My 91-year-old Husbear is looking forward to it as am I.
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Old Apr 29th, 2021, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Dukey1 View Post
Today we resurrected our Verona trip for September. We will follow that with 5 nights on Santorini. I was able to book full refundable flights on Delta as well as on Lufthansa for the Verona-Santorini portion. This is, of course, hurricane season in Florida and the beginning of the most active portion. If one is imminent or Verona itself cancels, well that's the chance one takes. My 91-year-old Husbear is looking forward to it as am I.
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Best of Luck on your reurrected trip. You have no doubt been to Santorini, it is gorgeous.

But it is also great that your Husbear is on good health to travel...... Good for him,.

I too have been inundated with e-mail trips to Europe and I guess everyone is giving full refund.

One large travel company states that you can cancel for ANY reason , " if you had a haircut that you don't like " you can cancel for a full refund" !!! 24 hours before the flight.

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Old Apr 29th, 2021, 03:39 PM
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Only if I can get a visa (I live in America but am not a citizen). I am monitoring atlas for visa slots near me!
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Old Apr 29th, 2021, 08:01 PM
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We rescheduled a trip from 2020 to Sept 27 2021 (Italy) with the idea that we will cancel as needed. We use miles and all the lodging can be cancelled. All I'll lose is the cost of the tickets for a concert in Ravello. We've had vaccinations but might need a booster by then.

We'll just watch and wait. If travel to Europe opens this summer, perhaps an autumn surge will follow, and that's our trip cancelled.

We had enough miles to schedule a Camino de Santiago in Spain for Spring 2022, and I'm moderately confident about that one.

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Old Apr 30th, 2021, 04:22 AM
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We've scheduled Portugal for September (very cheap flight came over but it's changeable with no fees) and we are eyeing Greece for November.if we can get another cheap (and changeable) flight. We wanted Japan for November but they are so far behind in vaccinations we're hoping next spring for them.
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Old Apr 30th, 2021, 04:26 AM
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Cancelable travel is not a concern. The real worry is whether the next wave, should it occur, could hit while already travelling, especially if it is due to a variant that escapes the present vaccines. Getting caught within a new lockdown or quarantine situation could be really unpleasant, especially if travel home is blocked. India is already seeding the world with new variants.
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Old Apr 30th, 2021, 06:50 AM
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France will open its borders on June 9th, but I'm quite certain that there will be different rules for some of the countries;
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Old Apr 30th, 2021, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by AJPeabody View Post
Cancelable travel is not a concern. The real worry is whether the next wave, should it occur, could hit while already travelling, especially if it is due to a variant that escapes the present vaccines. Getting caught within a new lockdown or quarantine situation could be really unpleasant, especially if travel home is blocked. India is already seeding the world with new variants.
I suppose somebody will say, as some usually do, HOW STUPID can you get but I'll gladly hang out on Santorini while the next wave hits.
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Old Apr 30th, 2021, 08:53 AM
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"Hang out" may mean - no place to stay, quarantined, no restaurants open, shops/museums closed, no flights leaving for the US, curfew from 7 pm to 6 am (like France has now). Our wine merchant was caught deep in the wine country of France, when he suddenly received a text that flights to the US were to be cancelled in 2 days. It was a "mad dash". Friends were caught in Antigua for 3 months because of cancelled flights (really!! - we got postcards from them about once a week).

Not my idea of a fun vacation.

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Old Apr 30th, 2021, 09:37 AM
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Old Apr 30th, 2021, 10:03 AM
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So far there are no indications that the Indian variant escapes vaccination immunity.

In fact, it's not clear that the Indian variant is the dominant one in India. It still may be the UK variant, which vaccines are very effective against.

WHO has put the Indian variant as a Variant of Interest, not a Variant of Concern like the UK, South African and Brazilian variants.

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Old Apr 30th, 2021, 12:37 PM
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I have airline credits that expire in the Spring of 2022, so I am crossing my fingers that I will be able to use them. I am very loosely planning a trip to France and Italy then. This year will be just domestic.
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Old Apr 30th, 2021, 12:43 PM
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With the understanding that Covid and it's current and future variants are here to stay and
that while vaccination doesn't prevent transmission and disease a 100 percent, it very close to it, and in medicine there is nothing 100 percent certain.
Yes I feel comfortable traveling again. We all have our endpoint during the Covid epidemic. Mine is the vaccine.

The question for me is if there is anything open and if the destination is worthwhile with restrictions.
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Old Apr 30th, 2021, 02:39 PM
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All I know is that I get confuseder and confuseder. Indecisiver and indecisiver.
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Old Apr 30th, 2021, 05:36 PM
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I was thinking, the second shot was in March so 8 months till the trip. I will talk to my Doctor but am interested in when we should get a booster.
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Old Apr 30th, 2021, 07:20 PM
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Already booked (refundable) September trip to Switzerland, Austria and Slovenia. We are Vaccinated and have been reading many positive reports on vaccination programs in the EU. Montreux Jazz Festival going forward with modifications this year in July. Much of our trip is outdoor oriented but we are totally fine wearing masks, making reservations if indoor sites are limited, testing, whatever. But the EU vaccination program seems to be progressing well.
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Old Apr 30th, 2021, 10:28 PM
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That’s a valid point about booster shots. As I understand it, no one knows for sure right now how long immunity will last after the vaccination. Six months? A year?
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Love the attitude! We traveled to Greece ( Crete, Santorini, Athens) last year and around US, and Dubai (since they’re one of the few countries open) in Feb this year. Lockdowns hurt economies, the vulnerable should just be taken cared of and not the rest of us with no comorbidity and willing to risk, they’re focusing on infections and death and not much on those who got better which is way more %








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Yes absolutely. I’ll wear masks if need be. If the EU is serious about tourism, then they will have a plan for opening restaurants, shops, museums, etc. All this noise about “we’re in lockdown now,” is just that...current noise.

First choice is to complete the non-Croatia part of my Eastern Europe trip from spring 2020 that I had to cancel. Prague, Budapest and Bosnia & Herzegovina
Second choice is Italy - Venezia e La Sicilia
Third choice is a return to my favorite city in the world, Istanbul, along with Crete and perhaps Thessaloniki/Meteora.
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Old May 1st, 2021, 04:00 AM
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OK, so you are VACCINATED and the country you are visiting LET YOU ENTER because you ARE vaccinated. And then that "wave" arrives and that same country says no flights can go back to the US. How likely is that, Stu????
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