Americans - are you being ripped off?

Old Mar 8th, 2017, 05:41 AM
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Americans - are you being ripped off?

Why are airfares so much higher US-Europe-US than the other way round? Especially if flying from Italy?

I have flown numerous times from Italy to the US and have also paid for tickets from the US to Europe.

Why is there such a difference?
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Old Mar 8th, 2017, 05:45 AM
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Have you looked at the fare price breakdowns?
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Old Mar 8th, 2017, 05:52 AM
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As I said I have paid the fares of US friends travelling from th US to Europe.

Just do a kayak or similar comparison and the fare difference is evident.
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Old Mar 8th, 2017, 06:04 AM
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Sparkchaser is talking about the fare breakdown.

Fare for 1 adult
Fare 1: Carrier DL TKXB72US LEX to ROM (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code T
Covers LEX-ATL (Economy), ATL-FCO (Economy)
$466.50
Fare 2: Carrier DL TKXB72US ROM to LEX (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code T
Covers FCO-ATL (Economy), ATL-LEX (Economy)
$466.50
DL YR surcharge (YR) $250.00
(US) $18.00
US September 11th Security Fee (AY) $11.20
US Passenger Facility Charge (XF) $13.50
Italy Security Bag Charge (EX) $2.40
Italy Passenger Service Charge Departure (MJ) $0.90
Italy Council City Tax (HB) $8.00
Italy Security Charge (VT) $3.50
Italy Embarkation Tax (IT) $30.10
USDA APHIS Fee (XA) $3.96
US Immigration Fee (XY) $7.00
US Customs Fee (YC) $5.50
US International Arrival Tax (US) $18.00
Subtotal per passenger $1,305.06
Number of passengers x1
Subtotal For 1 adult $1,305.06
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Market pricing, price discriminations.

Where not prohibited, price discrimination is always more profitable to the suppliers.
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Old Mar 8th, 2017, 06:22 AM
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I have just looked at kayak - same dates.

Milan - San Diego - Milam - EUR 963

San Diego - Milan - EUR 1424

Is this why Warren Buffett is investing in US airlines?
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Old Mar 8th, 2017, 06:36 AM
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It has always been my experience that Flights from the US are lower than those from Europe.

Anyway they aren't being rippped off. Most things cost a lot less in the US so it would make a change for the poor dears to have to pay more for a change.
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First, marketing isn't being "ripped off", many products price differently in different areas or different countries.

Furthermore, you cannot compare a RT on the same dates, because by definition, they are not exactly the same flight. The flight from MXP to SAN on a certain date is different from a flight from SAN to MXP. Many airlines have different prices for the same route on different days.
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Old Mar 8th, 2017, 08:27 AM
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"First, marketing isn't being "ripped off", many products price differently in different areas or different countries."

Christina, I normally agree with you on many things, but this time, no. Marketing is the ability to sell $1 for $10 and for the customer to feel happy about it.
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Old Mar 8th, 2017, 08:29 AM
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devaluation of Euro vs U S Dollar may play a part -like others say flying from Europe for years IME was more expensive than other way around - not now I guess.
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Old Mar 8th, 2017, 09:52 AM
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My posting is not based upon recent experience but goes back various years.

There is often a huge difference if you start your trip in Milan or Rome to the US rather than London, for example.

Also, within Europe, there can be a significant difference if you book using a site in one language rather than another. For example, I have found significant differences in fares using the Italian site rather than the UK site as far as Ryanair is concerned.
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>>>There is often a huge difference if you start your trip in Milan or Rome to the US rather than London, for example.>>Also, within Europe, there can be a significant difference if you book using a site in one language rather than another.
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Old Mar 8th, 2017, 05:09 PM
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"Many airlines have different prices for the same route on different days."

And how many different fares are there on the same flight? We've travelled with friends/family, and each paid a different fare depending on when they searched/bought their tickets.
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It is just Europe first policy.

We need to get money from you so that we can build walls when you request it.

That is fantastic. Absolutely great. We love walls. We will become the best wall builders of the world. Not some stupid walls like in China. Total disaster there.
Great walls we will build !
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Woin so funny.
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