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American dollar never weaker but France is still the number 2 destination for American travel

American dollar never weaker but France is still the number 2 destination for American travel

Apr 15th, 2007, 11:31 AM
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wanderful, from your post you sound like you're from the "hate Bush" crowd. The economy sucks, nothing is good in the world, and it's all Bush's fault. You've been drinking the kool-aid of the DNC.

By the way, your ”cheese with whine” line is hardly original, You’re going to have to do much better than that.

Yes, but I figured it was appropriate since you were going to Paris. Have a wanderful trip.

Dukey, NO! the Government is not my mother. I'm not from the "entitlement" mentality, are you?
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Apr 15th, 2007, 11:32 AM
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once again a simple post about cost of travel to Europe has to be turned into a political battle.

Yes, yes. I know. If I don't like it, I don't have to read it. (sigh)
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Apr 15th, 2007, 11:43 AM
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Budman:

Now, it’s ”kool-aid,” not ”whine.” Will tired attempts at wit, derived from other banal minds, never cease?

No, I don’t hate George Bush. He’s not important enough for such an emotion. Like most of the nation, even millions of Republicans, I just want him to go away, back to Crawford, where he can focus on the one thing he appears to do competently — clear brush.
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Apr 15th, 2007, 11:43 AM
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What a very strange article. First of all Christina is right that the whole basic premise that the dollar has never been weaker is simply wrong.

Here are some other interesting statements:


"There are definite ways to save money (rather, Euros). Huh? Are euros NOT money?

"If you plan to see different parts of France, Buy a Eurail pass that fits your needs. It’s the most efficient and cost-effective way to travel throughout Europe." Not necessarily -- that could be horribly wrong advice.

It also seems funny that she makes a point of saying France is the number 2 destination for Americans, yet never mentions what is number 1?
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Apr 15th, 2007, 11:54 AM
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wanderful, what seems to be your problem. Your post seems full of hate. What did he ever do to you? Something you can put your finger on? Doesn't seem to be the economy -- you seem to be doing well - 4 trips to Paris in 5 years.

Is your glass half empty? Maybe a couple of glasses of some good French wine will help you out. Have a wanderful trip.
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Apr 15th, 2007, 12:13 PM
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NP - I would expect that most who read Karen's article would be familiar with Bonjour Paris. Consider her audience. She isn't writing for Business Week. It is a chatty, introductory piece for her weekly newsletter - hardly strange at all.
Were there some points that got you thinking? Were there some suggestions that might prove helpful? Careful you don't shoot the messanger ...
As to Number 1 EU destination - I guess she figured that no one would need to be told that. (Hint - it's not Bulgaria)
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Apr 15th, 2007, 12:16 PM
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"with that clown in the White House until January 2009 it will grow weaker still"

What policies do the Democrats have to strengthen the dollar? Are they:
- going to put interest rates up?
- restrict the dollar's international convertibility?
- ban foreign travel?

And if any of these things:
- who's made those commitments, when?
- when, precisely, did the Democrats withdraw their Bills demanding firmer action to force China to revalue its currency - ie, to devalue the dollar still further against the currency of its major trading partner?
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Apr 15th, 2007, 12:35 PM
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I was in Atlanta for some business last week and saw, for the first time, a bumper sticker that said "I miss Bill"
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Apr 15th, 2007, 12:35 PM
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Hi R,

Re your link:

>American dollar never weaker

Actually, it was weaker against the Euro in Dec, 2004.

At the FF/E exchange rate, the FF is about $0.22. I have seen it at about $0.24.

I have seen the GBP at $2.50. I know that it used to be set at $5.00.

>If you plan to see different parts of France, Buy a Eurail pass that fits your needs. It’s the most efficient and cost-effective way to travel throughout Europe. <

Not always. Not often. Not even usually.





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Apr 15th, 2007, 12:38 PM
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PS,

>... France is still the number 2 destination for American travel

>France remains the second most popular destination for Americans ** who are boarding flights headed to the EU**.

Those two statements are not congruent.

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Apr 15th, 2007, 01:03 PM
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I love France.

That's all I really wanted to say. Carry on.
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Apr 15th, 2007, 01:12 PM
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I agree, Leely. That’s why I plan to have a wonderful trip.
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Apr 15th, 2007, 01:17 PM
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<<I love France.
That's all I really wanted to say. Carry on.>>
Exactly Leely. LOL
The article is meant to be an encouaraging one for those people who have planned, or who are considering, a trip to Europe, despite the economy. Unfortunately, some can't see beyond their funk about current conditions to smell the roses.
I don't agree with his politics but Budvase's suggestion about glass half full is a propos. It's a travel forum.
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Apr 15th, 2007, 02:27 PM
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I seldom get on this board anymore, though I am still travelling all I can (despite the high Euro).

I was under the impression that the Europe forum had got awfully tame and often trivial (too much stuff about "Where I can get yummy gelato" and "Will these shoes match my dress")

Glad to see that the old fires still rage. Takes me back to the old days, when I was a regular: Flames (and amusing trolls) abounded.

Final note: Oh, I am SOOOO glad to be Canadian and living here, even with our rather odd Prime Minister and the current risk of yearly elections....
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Apr 15th, 2007, 02:47 PM
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Dollar was much higher against the Euro before Bush.

Want to know what the Democrats did?

They kept the budget in balance and even in surplus. They did pay a price, raising taxes in the early '90s to close the big GOP deficits and lost the Congress in '94.

But those tax increases led to budget surpluses and a booming economy in the late '90s. Not only was there way more job creation, the middle class saw much higher wage growth than since Bush has taken over.

It's not an accident that Bush has turned the budget situation around and caused huge deficits with his tax cuts. So the US Treasury borrows more and more from overseas.

Dollar was worth more than the Euro before Bush came in and now, it's way down against the Euro and the Pound.
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Apr 15th, 2007, 02:50 PM
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"... even with our rather odd Prime Minister ..."

He is a very odd duck and he makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. (And tedgale, if you've been following the news, it will be very interesting to see what happens in Central Nova in the Peter MacKay/Elizabeth May showdown.)

But back to France: I'm with Leely on this one.

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Apr 15th, 2007, 02:56 PM
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What is Elizabeth May up to? She would have a shot at a seat somewhere else, no chance against Peter Mackay.

My mother was born in Stellarton, so to her Peter Mackay was just "Elmer's boy" and the family were "the Mackays whose mill was washed away in the 1940 flood".
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Apr 15th, 2007, 03:00 PM
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scrb, yup, everything was great during the Clinton Admin until 2000 when the inflated dot com bubble burst, and we went into a recession. Tax cuts have brought tremendous amounts of revenue and boosted the economy.
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Apr 15th, 2007, 03:09 PM
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Sigh! Another dull day on fodors while it's grey and pouring rain in Boston.
I love you Karen, don't let this upset you.
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Apr 15th, 2007, 03:20 PM
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tedgale, Elizabeth May (affectionately known to some here as "Betty Budworm", thanks to her opposition to spraying the forests of Nova Scotia) is running against Elmer's boy. Her chances of scaring the living daylights out of him increased with the most recent federal budget, the closure of the Trenton Car Works, and the Liberal's decision not to run a candidate in Central Nova.

Not being a fan of the MacKay clan (I still laugh about Peter borrowing a dog so that he could look suitably mournful after Ms Stronach deserted him), I would be delighted to see him lose. Wishful thinking, though, as he won by more than 3000 votes last time; that's a lot in Central Nova.

Sorry for the diversion, folks.

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