AIR FRANCE and CDG Questions?

Old Aug 31st, 2006, 07:15 AM
  #1  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,495
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
AIR FRANCE and CDG Questions?

We are flying to Spain next week on Air France and changing planes at CDG. I read somewhere, (maybe here) that CDG is almost as strict as Heathrow with carry-ons. Is that true? I would like to take my 22 inch carry-on with me and check my backpack, with all the toitetries through. If I'm going to have trouble taking a suitcase through security, I'll have to pack differently, and would rather do it before I leave home! So my question is, will Air France let me carry-on the 22 inch suitcase, and will I have trouble getting it trough security at CDG? Thanks in advance.
zwho is offline  
Old Aug 31st, 2006, 07:26 AM
  #2  
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 23,073
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Air France enforce their carryon rules tightly. Which is 115cm overall dimension (W+H+L), including wheels. <b>And</b> a 12kg rule. They will often weigh it. They'll put a tag on your allowed carryons here in the US, and CDG security won't have problem with them.

But since you're already checking one piece, why not do the standard way of putting the toiletries in the 22&quot; suitcase and check it, while only taking the backpack with valuables?
rkkwan is offline  
Old Aug 31st, 2006, 07:42 AM
  #3  
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 17,549
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Will you have to go through Security again if you are transiting to Spain????
Dukey is offline  
Old Aug 31st, 2006, 07:48 AM
  #4  
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 23,073
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Yes, definitely have to go through security. In fact, immigration and then security.
rkkwan is offline  
Old Aug 31st, 2006, 07:48 AM
  #5  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,495
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thank you for your reply and suggestions. The reason I don't want to check my suitcase is becasuse I actually lost my luggage and never had it returned! It has made me a little paranoid about checking suitcases. I figure I can replace toothpaste, deodorant and makeup much easier (and quicker) then my wardrobe. I know it is a little irrational, but until the last month, it has worked for me. Can you convert the centimeters and kilograms to inches and pounds? Sorry, I convert kilometers to miles by dividing in half and adding 10%. Centigrade to fahrenheit is multiply the cent. by 2 and add 32. It works almost perfectly. I don't know the conversion for Kilograms or centimeters. Thanks again.
zwho is offline  
Old Aug 31st, 2006, 07:50 AM
  #6  
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 23,073
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
115cm = 115/2.54 = 45in (overall inches)

12kg = 12x2.2 =26lb.
rkkwan is offline  
Old Aug 31st, 2006, 08:14 AM
  #7  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,495
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thnk you for the conversion formulas. I may have to rethink my packing plans this trip.
zwho is offline  
Old Aug 31st, 2006, 08:26 AM
  #8  
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 19,000
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Geez. Google this:

<b>115 cm in in
12kg in lb
40c in f
1.17eur/l in $/gal
300000km/sec in mph
125usd in gbp</b>

...or anything else you can think of.
Robespierre is offline  
Old Aug 31st, 2006, 09:45 AM
  #9  
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 13,406
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
&quot;I convert kilometers to miles by dividing in half and adding 10%. Centigrade to fahrenheit is multiply the cent. by 2 and add 32. It works almost perfectly.&quot;

Um... those are both fairly inaccurate methods of conversion.
Patty is offline  
Old Aug 31st, 2006, 09:49 AM
  #10  
ira
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 74,699
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
&gt;Um... those are both fairly inaccurate methods of conversion.&lt;

Close enough for government work.

ira is offline  
Old Aug 31st, 2006, 09:55 AM
  #11  
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 13,406
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Just as easy to remember as dividing in half and adding 10% is divide by 5 and multiply by 3 for kilometers to miles conversion. Still not accurate but much closer. Haven't found an easy way to remember celsius to fahrenheit conversion though.
Patty is offline  
Old Aug 31st, 2006, 09:56 AM
  #12  
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 10,210
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I think it's almost certain that you will be required to check a 22-inch wheeled bag on Air France. When I took Air France to Greece via Paris in late May, we were required to check this size bag.
doug_stallings is offline  
Old Aug 31st, 2006, 09:56 AM
  #13  
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 19,000
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I don't know why there's so much discussion about this metric conversion thing.

Go to google.com.
Enter the desired conversion in the search blank, such as <b>60mph in furlongs/fortnight</b>.
Press <font color="blue">Google Search</font>.

p.s. If you're not near a computer, the horseback conversion for m/km above is close enough, and for C to F just remember that <b>20C is 68F</b> and Celsius degrees are about twice as big as Fahrenheit. So 24C (20+4) is about 76F (68+8).
Robespierre is offline  
Old Aug 31st, 2006, 10:22 AM
  #14  
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 717
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

May I butt in here:
I've flown many an airline over the years and have never had a problem carrying on the plane a carry-on bag (45 inches) AND a camera bag (Holds 2 cameras, an extra lens, a book or two, so it's roughly the equivalent in size to a large handbag).

I am flying Air France in a few weeks and read their website and what to make sure that I will be able to carry on the same with them. (I understand the weight issue. My bags will weigh less than 26 lbs.)
The website mentions a carry-on AND a handbag, laptop computer or camera. It doesn't say camera bag. Am I just being overly paranoid? Can you carry on a bag AND a camera bag? Thanks.
JackOneill is offline  
Old Aug 31st, 2006, 10:55 AM
  #15  
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,605
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Well... did it -ever- say &quot;or a camera bag&quot;..?
If not, then nothing has changed.

I always use a small backpack for my &quot;personal bag&quot;, and stuff my purse down in it. So if that's ok, then a camera bag should be, too.
Travelnut is offline  
Old Aug 31st, 2006, 03:06 PM
  #16  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,495
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
JackOneill, I'll post back here when I return on the 19th. Hope thats not too late. I always take a backpack with my travel purse in it AND my camera case. But then I also usually bring my 22 inch carry on, so things change, and I'm going to have to change with them! Thanks for all your replies. I guess I'm checking my luggage.
zwho is offline  
Old Sep 5th, 2006, 08:13 AM
  #17  
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 541
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'm getting a bit paranoid about my trip to France - we're leaving next Friday (Sept 15) and I know my carry-on will be fine for the flight out (I'm bringing a small bag for books/mp3 etc and my camera bag which is NOT getting checked unless I have absolutely no option), but am a bit concerned about the flight back.
The Air France website says that you are allowed 1 carry-on plus a camera bag, but it seems like this may have been tightened. Has anyone flown from Paris to Canada on Air Canada recently that can confirm that they're still allowing 1 carry-on plus camera?
BikerScott is offline  
Old Sep 5th, 2006, 09:20 AM
  #18  
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,449
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
BikerScott, I guess it depends on what you mean by recently. I last flew AC from Paris to Montreal in February and had no problems with a roll-on and a briefcase. (My camera was in the briefcase.)

This is from the AC website: &quot;Items, which fall within the 2-piece carry-on allowance, include: Carry-on bags or suitcases (wheels and handles included in the size), briefcases, Laptop computers, diaper bags, camera cases, cartons or other similar items.&quot;

And here's the page that describes the allowable weight and dimensions:

http://www.aircanada.com/en/travelin.../carry-on.html

I have had my carry-on weighed by AC staff at CDG, but they don't do this very consistently in my experience.

Anselm
AnselmAdorne is offline  
Old Sep 5th, 2006, 09:23 AM
  #19  
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 34,854
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I think by camera, they simply mean like one dangling from a strap around your neck -- not in a bag with some other stuff, in which case it's a carryon. But, you never know, you might get by.

The odds a std. 22&quot; suitcase will get on are not that high, unless you are positive it will fit in those little measurement things and you are positive it is that size, including any legs, wheels, handle, etc. My 22&quot; suitcase won't get on AF (or some other airlines) when it is pretty full.
Christina is offline  
Old Sep 5th, 2006, 10:07 AM
  #20  
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 541
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks for the quick replies!
Per Air Canada's rules, I'm fine with my carry-on (it's a smallish bag, not a 22&quot; suitcase) and camera bag (it's bigger than a &quot;hang around the neck&quot; camera, but not massive - DSLR with an extra lens and flash - probably 6&quot; by 8&quot; by 8&quot;high).
I've heard, however, that airline rules are superceded by airport security rules and that France is being a bit sticky about it these days...I guess if all else fails, I can check my carry-on (after putting all my books etc in various pockets) and bringing just my camera.
BikerScott is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Manage Preferences - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information -