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Old Jun 26th, 2006, 03:17 PM
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barbmc, your comments are funny. But how accurate they are. Those AF shuttles seem to take everyone on tarmac tours. The worse thing is that the personnel don't seem to understand that they need more than one shuttle sometimes! So there is a huge rush to get onto the one and only shuttle waiting to meet the arrival plane. The passengers left out have to wait for the next shuttle. Talk about being late! I hate CDG for connections.

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Old Jun 26th, 2006, 05:25 PM
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BS - Going from US-CDG-ATH or ATH-CDG-US, one must go through French passport control. Both ways. It's because Greece is part of Schengen, just like France.

The lines for passport control at CDG can be short, or can be very very long and slow. Hard to tell. That's the problem with CDG - everything "depends".
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Old Jun 26th, 2006, 08:29 PM
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BobSwanson,
From where to where are you traveling? How did you find out what gates you'll be arriving and departing? From what I know, you can't determine anything more specific in advance than what hall you'll be arriving and departing at CDG (and even then AF can and sometimes does change this last minute). Where you go through passport control and customs will be dependent on your origin and destination.
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Old Jun 27th, 2006, 09:42 AM
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I'm traveling NYC-CDG-Barcelona. As far as the gate is concerned, I have it printed on my iteneray and then called AF and they confirmed.
They didn't mention anything about passport control. I guess I'll find out.BS
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Old Jun 27th, 2006, 09:58 AM
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Currently, NYC flights arrive at 2C (for all JFK/EWR flights), <b>not including</b> Delta codeshares.

All CDG-BCN flights leave from 2F.

Whoever tells you you have a gate number is totally BS'ing you, or you probably misunderstood. 2C and 2F are seperate terminals. 2C is SW of the TGV/Sheraton; 2F is NE of it. And there's absolutely no freaking way AF will tell you your gate in advance. My flight last Dec from IAH doesn't even arrive at the supposed <b>terminal</b>, let alone gate.

And of course you need to go through passport control. You're entering the Schengen zone at CDG, so your passport will be checked there. Easiest way to do the transfer is to ignore all the &quot;transit&quot; instructions and signs. Instead go through immigration at 2C like if you're just going to Paris. After you get to the landside, make a right and walk towards the TGV station/Sheraton. Then look for signs to 2F. Reclear security there. It's not a very long walk.
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Old Jun 27th, 2006, 10:13 AM
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Everything rkkwan said is correct. You'll need to go through passport control upon arrival at 2C and re-clear security at 2F. 50 minutes is going to be dicey for this connection. Find out when the next departure to BCN is before you leave and good luck!
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Old Jun 28th, 2006, 09:29 AM
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Pls. pay attention to what rkkwan and Patty are saying! Those are priceless advice. Thank God I saw this thread before I bought my AF tickets from NYC-Athens so instead of taking what the airline originally suggested (45 min. layover in CDG) I took the next one (supposedly 3-hr. layover). By the time we got off the plane, waited/transported by the shuttle, passed through the immigration/security, we just have in actuality a 35-min. WAIT! The place that we're supposed to take was changed, the arrival gate was changed, and on top of that, there was a wait for the next shuttle which moves slowly as the area was congested. Your chance of catching your connection is very SLIM!
 
Old Jun 28th, 2006, 09:05 PM
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AF/Business from S.F. to CDG is always great,good and elegant.
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Old Jul 5th, 2006, 06:46 AM
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we will be using Air France this fall from Bos to Venice, changing at CDG. We also only have 50 minutes between planes to transfer. Has anyone done this trip recently? Will we have problems making the flight? And the planes they are using on this route... are they the &quot;duct tape&quot; ones or the &quot;good food/tv in seat back&quot; ones? I'm getting nervous! (oh, for person on Italia through milan-had no trouble in airport on changeover to Florence last year)
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Old Jul 5th, 2006, 07:34 AM
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smlri - AF uses their A340 for BOS flight, at least during this fall. All AF longhaul flights have personal video screens, and food are all pretty decent. But I don't think the 340s have the new economy seats that have sliding bottom cushions.

50 minutes is extremely tight for a transit at CDG. Currently, BOS flights arrive at Terminal 2E, and VCE flight depart from 2F. Short walk between the two. But who knows if the first flight may be delayed, or if you have to wait for a shuttle to get from plane to terminal. So, you may make it, but the chance of not making it is also quite high. They'll put you on the next flight if you miss the connection.
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Old Jul 5th, 2006, 08:58 AM
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I have friends who missed an AF flight to Spain yesterday due to overbooking. They were put on a flight 2 hours later and are 800 euros richer. No complaints there.
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Old Jul 5th, 2006, 09:39 AM
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Rkkwan, thanks for all your info on CDG airport and switching from 2C to 2F without using the CDG bus. Do you know how to avoid using the CDG bus in reverse--that is, I will be arriving in 2C and I need to make it to 2F with a tight connection. I was there in May, and they make it appear that you can't walk from terminal to terminal. I took the bus, and the driver drove maybe 2 miles per hour, and stopped at every little intersection to let the luggage movers go through first. What started as pleny of time, ended up with me in near cardiac arrest to make my flight back to the states.
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Old Jul 5th, 2006, 10:31 AM
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italyss - You can go between any CDG2 terminal without using the bus. Just go straight to the exit after your plane arrives (through passport control if you're arriving from non-Schengen), walk to new terminal, and then go through security (and passport control if you're departing to non-Schengen).

Remember the layout of CDG2. It's like:

BD F
__T
AC E

T is the Sheraton/TGV.
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Old Jul 5th, 2006, 12:17 PM
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Thanks for your help, rkkwan. I think that walking instead of taking the bus makes all the difference with a tight connection. BTW, I asked one of the Air France reps if I could walk, and she told me to take the bus.
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Old Jul 7th, 2006, 04:00 AM
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Just flew Air France in their TEMPO (Economy) Class 2 weeks ago and thought it was great. I fly weekly in the States for business and haven't seen nice service on a flight in a long while. You can also check out www.seatguru.com to see details about your flight. I like any airline that has an individual tv screen for each seat in economy!
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Old Jul 7th, 2006, 05:17 AM
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But not all Air France aircraft have the seatback entertainment screens. Those are offered on the Airbus aircraft only.
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Old Jul 7th, 2006, 05:32 AM
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No, it is also on the 777's.
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Old Jul 7th, 2006, 05:51 AM
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Then the 777 aircraft we flew were missing their screens. There were none.
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Old Jul 7th, 2006, 08:33 AM
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All AF 777s should have individual screens in coach. If you don't get a screen, you're on a 747-400 instead.
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