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Advise train travel between Florence and Rome?

Apr 9th, 2007, 07:51 PM
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Thanks, Kane. You know, everyone told us about missing trains, not finding compartments, getting off on time, etc. until were were about worried sick.

We got to the station a good 15 minutes early, had more than enough time to look around and determine the track layout while waiting for the board to post our track, then walk to it. Leisurely. Find the correct wagon and get on. The track locating and on/off thing was not even a problem on IC trains, where we also needed to validate first and the stops were a lot shorter. Much ado about nothing.

So yes, pack lightly and be prepared when your station is coming up, but don't over-worry.
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Apr 9th, 2007, 08:10 PM
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Florence Santa Maria Novella is not a very large station. You won't have much problem locating your train. The regular Eurostar Italia on this route will use trains like this:

rkkwan.zenfolio.com/p226613367/?photo=1014390915

And infrequently with trains like this:

rkkwan.zenfolio.com/p226613367/?photo=1021701425

On the platform, you may find a chart like this to tell you which car is near the front which is the rear so you can start walking near where you car may be. [This photo is taken at Rome Termini, and I'm not sure if they have this at Florence or not.]

rkkwan.zenfolio.com/p226613367/?photo=721538695

The trains will be coming in from Venice or Milan. The scheduled stop is usually 8 minutes.
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Apr 10th, 2007, 04:34 AM
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I'm not sure about this, but if you have purchased your ticket on www.trenitalia.com, and lose that paper ticket, but still have your PNR number (reservation number), the train conductor may still be able to locate it on his hand-held computer.

You could write the PNR number (found on your paper ticket) and place it in your wallet or pocket.

Has anyone reading this post ever had this happen to them? However, if you are traveling with other adults, chances are not everyone will lose the ticket(s).
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Apr 10th, 2007, 04:44 AM
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>Do you know what happens if I lose the printout before the train trip?<

You take out the other copy.

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Apr 10th, 2007, 04:44 AM
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Whatever happened to the OP?
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Apr 10th, 2007, 07:55 AM
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Thanks, that's a great idea, to write down the PNR number in a separate place. This is all great information! The train I am planning to reserve is Florence to Naples. It is the earliest non-stop train in the morning that day so I think I should reserve it in advance. From other posts I know to leave the car and seat number sections blank, they will be filled in with my confirmation. Does anyone know how to get a seat that faces the back of another seat, versus directly across the people in front of you?
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Apr 10th, 2007, 07:59 AM
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Hi M,

>Does anyone know how to get a seat that faces the back of another seat, versus directly across the people in front of you?

Some trains are arranged as

XX..XX.......XX
TTTTTT aisle TT
XX..XX.......XX

where XX is a seat and TTTT is a table and that is the only way you can sit.

Others are arranged like airplanes.

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Apr 10th, 2007, 08:02 AM
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"Does anyone know how to get a seat that faces the back of another seat, versus directly across the people in front of you?

LUCK.

I'm convinced the numbering system on Italian trains makes no sense. We like to try to reserve those two individual seats facing each other. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. On two Eurostar trains, our two sets of tickets had identical seat numbers, so when we got on one train we were delighted that those numbers were indeed the type seats we liked -- so surely our next train was the same. But we were surprised when we got on what seemed to be an identical Eurostar train, and those seat numbers were two of four seats facing each other. Sometimes tickets which even indicate numbers as well as aisle or window seats are not those at all.
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Apr 10th, 2007, 08:16 AM
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Thanks, Ira and Patrick! It sounds like I will have to hope for the "airplane" configuration or hope for the luck to get the the two individual seats facing each other.

OK, my last question! Do you know how to print out the full day of timetables between two cities on Trenitalia.com? I can only get the listing of times around the departure time I indicate, but I'd like to have the full day just in case...
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Apr 10th, 2007, 08:24 AM
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All the ES* and Cisalpino trains I've been on have 4 seats facing each other in 2nd class.
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Apr 10th, 2007, 08:37 AM
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Hi Rkkwan, there is no place like FODORS to learn, last time I was in Italy I forgot about those signs and run like mad looking for my wagon or carrozza. ...Thank you for showing the picture.

BTW,
I guess it might help to know these words before you get to the termini ...
carrozza= Wagon
binario= railway-track
partenza= departure
Punto di partenza= starting point
ora di partenza= departure time
seat, I am not sure, but I believe is POSTO.
good luck.
and one more thing, I agree, for me is also a mystery- misterio- howhow the Italians number the seats....
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Apr 10th, 2007, 09:10 AM
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I'd suggest you get in the habit of validating train tickets. We were fined on one train because we'd forgot to validate it, even though we'd just bought it 15 minutes before, at the train depot itself, so we assumed we were all set.
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Apr 10th, 2007, 10:21 AM
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I guess they are right it does not matter that you have bought it fifteen minutes before departure, what matters is that is you do not validate it you could use it another time in the future.
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Apr 27th, 2007, 10:50 AM
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Hi all, saltdog10 posted this chart on another thread, it finally makes sense of which seats are facing each other, which are by the windows, etc!

http://downloads.raileurope.com/pdf/...escription.pdf
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Apr 27th, 2007, 02:02 PM
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There's a really detailed section on how to use trains in Italy at www.slowtrav.com.
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