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Advice on an Aggressive Provence Itinerary

Advice on an Aggressive Provence Itinerary

Old Aug 9th, 2013, 12:38 AM
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@improviser : You sound condescending! tut-tut, not done in a forum where there are people of all ilk who enjoy travelling in their own individual ways. Sometimes I like to spend 5 days in one place, sometimes I like to see 5 places in one day..as long as I enjoy it, who is to say what is right or wrong?
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Old Aug 9th, 2013, 06:28 AM
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Thanks guys. I can't wait for the leisurely poking around! If we get to the first town and want to spend the whole day there, the itinerary may go out the window. But, I like having lots of options too, just in case we feel done with a town after an hour.
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Old Aug 9th, 2013, 08:11 AM
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Michael, I am not interested in making pc comments that offend no one. I have opinions as to what is good and bad and I voice them. You are of course free to ignore them or disagree with them.

The old 'to each his own' argument is appropriate in some cases but not in ALL cases. The trend to pc answers tries to apply it to all cases however. Some things do have a right or wrong, good or bad, better or worse answer.

In this case, 'ticking off the list' is wrong, bad and the worst way to travel.

Suja, what you think is 'done' or not done is your problem, not mine. I do as I wish within the forum's terms of use. And NO you do not 'see' 5 places in one day.

Newtraveller, when you write, "to feel as though we didn't miss something", what does that actually mean? Compare Sanju's tick list to voyager61's description of what a day in the area is about. If you follow the tick list, will you not miss something that voyager61 has described?

This common desire to see it all, to see 'as much as possible', to not miss something or whatever other words someone uses to say the same thing, is always based on the assumption that the way to do so is to interpret it as meaning MANY places while ignoring the quality of the time.

The way to not miss something is to spend enough time in a place to find and see/do all that interests you in that place. Driving through a half dozen places is not doing that. Spend your time IN places, not in BETWEEN places. That is how you don't MISS something.

In travel, less is always more. Move less, miss less.
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Old Aug 9th, 2013, 10:32 AM
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When it comes to language, I tend to be prescriptive rather than descriptive, but I think that the opposite is more useful when it comes to travel advice.
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Old Aug 9th, 2013, 11:54 AM
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I think you can explore Les Baux, besides, you aren't taking 2 days to do it, that includes St Remy, I don't see anything wrong with that. I spent several hours at Les Baux, as I recall, maybe 3.

Of course you can't do all that on Sunday, but you'll see. A lot of these places aren't really that unique to have to see them all IMO.
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Old Aug 9th, 2013, 03:32 PM
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newtraveler--Your moving day between Les Baux and St. Saturnin with proposed stops in Aix and Cassis could be a challenge. We don't like to park with all our luggage (hidden or not) for extended periods while exploring towns--too many stories of tragic thefts. And your driving demands will be quite extensive if you try to get to all those locations. Cassis to St. Saturnin is a solid 2 hour drive which goes right through Lourmarin (one of your goals).

Aix would be easily enough achieved and you could park in the underground with some degree of confidence. But continued exposure of your belongings could be a concern until you are able to unload everything at your St Saturnin location.

I'm with others that caution you about stopping anywhere on your way back to Nice from St. Saturnin--suggest you get to Nice first and then relax.
You're in for a great time--enjoy!
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Old Aug 11th, 2013, 09:27 AM
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This may be "doable" but will you enjoy this whirlwind tour? I have been to Provence many times and going back in a couple of weeks. My suggestion is to skip L'Ile sur la Sorgue's antique market (no bargains to be found, believe me!)You can look at "stuff" anywhere. Near St Remy de Provence, don't skip Glanum - fabulous Greco/Roman antiquities. I would skip the light show - no big deal. Sunday afternoon you'll never get to all those villages. Pick three and enjoy them. Lourmarin is too far. Skip it. Forget Apt, small city with no charm. Get an early start Saturday am. Aix is the last vestige of a beautiful 18th century town in France. Spend time there. It is unique. In Gordes don't skip Les Bories, and try to see the Abbaye de Senanque. If you want to visit, you need to make reservations. Why not do Saignon which is out of the way on your way back to Nice (near the D-900)? and this way you will have saved something for your next trip! Have a great time...
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Old Aug 11th, 2013, 09:38 AM
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But continued exposure of your belongings could be a concern until you are able to unload everything at your St Saturnin location.

No doubt break-ins occur. But we have toured through France on numerous occasions with luggage out of sight and have had no problems even though the car was clearly from another département.

At some point a traveler will have to decide if s/he is willing to stop at a intermediary location with a car full of out-of-sight luggage, and stop worrying about it.
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Old Aug 11th, 2013, 10:53 AM
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We spent 3-4 weeks each year traveling around in Europe from 1977 to 1998. Since '99 we've spent two months there each year. We've never had anyone break into the car and/or steal anything.

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Old Aug 11th, 2013, 07:42 PM
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Thanks so much all! Very helpful.
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