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Advice for Rome
In exactly 11 days, I will be embarking on my first trip overseas EVER. I am very nervous, and of course excited, but I need advice. My friend and I are going to do Rome for 3 nights, Florence for two nights, and back to rome for two more nights. I am more about soaking up the culture by walking around neighborhoods and eating, then waiting on lines at museums. Any must sees, or good cheap eats? In either city...thanks!
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Don't wait on line in Florence, for the Uffizi, nor the Accademia. Reserve. Ask your hotel to do it, or get additional ideas here. You may need some luck for only 14 days from now (but maybe not - - the lead times have been long this summer).
"Any" must sees? You do have books, right? Best wishes, Rex |
Honestly, I got a few books out of the library, but they overwhelmed me. The whole idea of the trip is overwhelming. That's why I was hoping to narrow it down...
Thanks for the Florence advice. |
Hi, meganboston!
Congratulations on your adventure--have a wonderful time in Italy! I can relate to wanting to take it easy--travel is more enjoyable that way, and you can always look forward to going again to catch sights you skipped. Also, you can absorb local atmosphere more easily in cafes than museums. That said, there are some must-sees in each city. These are the minimum that I would choose-- Rome: St. Peter's Basilica Vatican Museums Forum (site) Pantheon (building) (Most people would undoubtedly insist on the Spanish Steps and Trevi Fountain, as well) Florence: Uffizi (museum) Accademia (gallery) Duomo (church) Piazza della Signoria (square--also where some good, fairly cheap restaurants can be found) Ponte Vecchio (bridge) At least, that's where I'd start. Have a great trip! |
Thank you! This is really helpful. should I try to purchase tickets in advance for all of these gallerys/museums? Or just stick out the line? I am staying in a convent in rome, and a small Bed and Breakfast in florence, so I don't know if they can do anything for me...
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Advance reservations would save time, but unfortunately I can't offer any info there--I've always waited in line. A google search might work, or search on this site by each name ("Uffizi reservation," etc.) Or bring this post to the top periodically (just reply "ttt" to keep it current), and posters more knowledgeable than I may help you.
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Megan, I did my first ever trip to Europe two years ago and spent 5 days each in Rome and Florence. While all of it made me go "Wow", the things that really, really made me go "WOW!" were St Peters (definitely #1 on my list) and the Parthenon in Rome (though this was probably because we just stumbled upon it and didn't know much about it), and the Uffizi and Accademia in Florence.
I'm not a seasoned traveller but the best advice I could give you for Rome would be to use an English-speaking guide for your visits to the major sites, such as St Peters. They can add a huge amount to your enjoyment. Have a great trip. |
Megan
Two favorite cheap eats of mine in Florence are Trattoria Pallantino and Trattoria Alfredo. You can have good cheap meals at both. Try a search here for inexpensive eats in Rome. I've seen many mentioned here. Smalti gave you good leads. In Rome you will also want to see the Colosseum. Consider Santa Maria del Popolo and St Luigi Francesi for other churches, and Santa Maria Sopra Minerva. See the Vittorio Emmanuale monument, but don't go inside. Another great church, because of the wonderful art, is St Pietro Vincoli. The walk up there from the Colosseum is quite nice. Eat, shop, go into churches, bring a guide book along so you will know what you are looking at. I am sorry that you are overwhelmed. Try to do some reading. The books may seem overwhelming, but you will get a much better idea of what you are doing, and when to do it. I never give this idea, but for you, I say read Rick Steves' Italy, and only the sections on Rome and Florence. You already have your rooms, so just read the rest of each of those sections. Stay calm and have a ball. |
Of course, tuscanlifeedit, the Colosseum! I was mentally lumping it with the Forum, but mentally lumping things never does much good. :-)
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You can "see" the must-see's without waiting in a line for the following:
The Forum, please walk through this! At the south end of the Forum you can See the Colusseum. You can walk around this, take pictures, enjoy it's size. IF you care to, purchase a ticket and to inside. The Pantheon, no lines, free admission. The Vatican, primarily St. Peter's Basilica, Free Admission. If you go VERY early, you can pretty much walk in when it opens. Try to see this. It is outstanding in scale & scope. The museums always have a line, but it moves fast. At the end of the museum is the Sistine Chapel. Pretty much considered a "Must See". 1st time hubby & I went we zipped through the museum just to see this. Trevi Fountain = Free (think "3 coins in a Fountain). All of the above are within a concentrated area of Old Rome. Have fun, look at a map on the plane so you can notate where these places are and plan your strategy of walking, soaking in the sights and stopping by windows and wine shops! |
Hi,
Just a word of "caution"!! Based on your departure date, it looks like your last two days in Rome (if I am counting correctly) will be Saturday and Sunday (9/24 and 9/25). Those two days are celebrated as Giornata Patrimonale. Basically, most of the museums and monuments are "free"--no entrance fees. Along with this concept comes very large crowds (families of Italian co-mingled with the normal tourist load). This makes the lines much longer than normal. Because of this, I would recommend you see the "fee charged" sites on your first three days in Rome and leave the "free" events and neighborhood walks to the final two days. You can still reserve tickets for the Accademia in Florence, but I believe the Uffizi is already "sold out" of advance reservations for your dates. Of course, you can always stand in line to wait to get in. Don't fret, you will have a great adventure and many wonderful experiences!! |
Thank you to everyone who posted. I think my next step will be to buy a map, and try to plan a itinerary with all of your recommendations. Oh,yea, and I have to relax and enjoy myself. Thanks again!
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My thoughts would be to get hold of a copy of 'Italy for Dummies' to help with your plans. You are quite correct..the choice of travel books can be overwhelming and Dummies may help narrow things down.
Now one of the most memorable and unexpected delights of Rome was the Galleria Borghese.We went there only on the urging of a friend or would have missed this beautiful experience completely. Throw your coins in the Trevi fountain so you may return..then relax and enjoy! |
Going to Rome as a first time visitor to Europe will be sensory overload, so be prepared. Buying good city maps is a must to walk around any large European city, especially Rome. Even with the best of maps, you will get lost, just go with it and enjoy! We were awed by the Vatican, Colosseum and the Forum, but our favorite was the Pantheon, and it's surrounding neighborhood of narrow, winding cobblestone streets. Another less popular but very pretty and relaxing walk is to visit the Knights of Malta 'keyhole view' of St. Peters. As for the Ufizzi, DEFINITELY get tickets ahead of time. You can actually call them direct to reserve. It can save you hours of waiting in line. You also may want to consider a night or two in the beautiful Tuscan countryside, just to decompress from hectic Italian city life.
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Megan,
Minx gave you some good advice. I know you are overwhelmed, but you need a guidebook. I also suggest the Lonely Planet guides for the two cities. They cover it all, they are small and easy to pack and carry. Read the text too - they are well-written and you will feel a bit better about things. Also go to the Enjoy Rome website: www.enjoyrome.com They have lots of good information and suggestions of things to do for fun and for free, and inexpensive tours. The Fodors mini-guides on this website are helpful too! You are going to have a great time! |
Megan - my husband and I leave on the 16 and return on the 25th!
We are doing a day trip to Florence and just yesterday I got tickets to the Accademia. The Uffizi Gallery (I was told) was sold out till October. So if you want to see David, I recommend you go ahead and book on line. We are waiting till we get there to schedule tours of the Vatican Museum/Sistine Chapel and the Coliseum... this may not be a good idea though. Did you schedule your Rome tours yet. Georgete - thank you for your posts about the 24 and 25th. |
no, I haven't sheduled tours, but this is only becuase I have a friend who will be meeting us there. (She has traveled there many times and is staying with a friend that lives in Rome). What website did you use for reservations? |
Congratulations on your upcoming trip! Rome is my favorite city and I'm green with envy! I think you are giving it a fair justice by allotting the amount of time that you did. There is just so much to do there! On top of the "normal" tourist attractions, definitely check out some of the churches. Santa Maria Maggiore and San Giovanni in Laterno are both gorgeous. And definitely take some time to just stroll and soak everything in.
For Florence, among the main attractions, I always highly recommend a trek to Piazzale Michaelangelo. Its across the River Arno and its an uphill walk but worth it because you will be rewarded with fabulous views of Florence and the surrounding area. You can also take a bus to the top if you don't want to walk. Definitely bring a good map. We used the Rome and Florence Inside Out maps that can be purchased at Borders or Brookstone. We also bought a nice laminated map of Rome at borders and used that as well. I would also second the suggestion of picking up Rick Steves' Rome. He's not for everyone, but he gives good advice, especially for first timers, and its easy to read and comprehend. Good luck! And don't worry too much...you are going to have a fabulous time! Tracy |
Megan,
The cheapest and easiest way to may reservations for the Accademia (and the Uffizi, if you can) is by calling 011 39 055294883 between 8:30-18:30 M-F (8:30-12:30 Sat) Florence time. You will get an English speaking operator and in minutes have your reservation. This is much cheaper than the commercial booking services. The admission ticket for the Colosseum is also good for the Palatine. There are often long lines at the Colosseum, so after walk through the Forum towards the Colosseum, you can walk down Via di San Gregoria towards the left to the Palatine, and buy your ticket there. Mark |
Sorry, that's the cheapest and easiest way to MAKE a reservation! And, if you are walking towards the Colosseum through the Forum, you need to turn RIGHT down Via di San Gregoria to the Palatine. I guess I need more coffee!
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Thanks luv2cthings - what are the fee with calling that number for reservations? I looked online and I would be paying double the admission price! Not to be cheap, but I'm working at a non-profit here!
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Are you from Boston? or a suburb? or not connected to the city?
If you are overwhelmed simply a <i>book</i> on Rome, then the city itself is going to be a trip for you! You need to go into Boston, and find the worst trafic jams you can find with maximum horn blaring and Big Dig noise at full intensity, just to start acclimating youtself. And how are you coming on learning Italian? Today would be a day to intnsify your efforts - - whatever vocabulary you have acquired, you could increase it by another 200 words over the next 10 days if you put your mind to it. |
meganboston: Advice here is all good -- but recommend Trevi after dark -- the lighting is wonderful and the "scene" is fun, too. Also recommend Boboli Gardens in Florence -- get all the way to the topmost terrace for an incredible view. (You don't have to go into the palazzo to view the gardens -- just go on through for "gardens only). Leave at least 2 hrs. for it.
(Completely side issue, for Rex, with as lightened-up a tone as possible: -- don't want to start a whole new scrappy thread about it, but since your first line jumped out at me -- about waiting "on line" -- here's this: I know it's been a time-honored, usually regional difference whether people say "on line" (NYC) or "in line" (some other places) and I've heard truly silly justifications why one or the other is more accurate: "You can't be IN a line, the line's on the pavement and you stand ON it." "As a member of the line, you are standing IN it -- if you were ON it, you'd be on people's heads!" But since we now have a very specific other meaning for "on line" -- what we all are when we're linked to the internet -- do you think maybe can we choose "in line" for what you wait in, to get into a museum, etc.? ;-) ;-) Some other time, we can talk about change OF a dollar (or Euro) vs. change FOR a dollar (or Euro)! Once again: ;-) ;-) ) |
Megan,
The booking fee for the Accademia or Uffizi is €3. You don't pay until you arrive, and if there isn't much of line when your get there, just buy your ticket as though you did not have a reservation and save the €3 reservation fee. Mark |
Rex- It is not the city part that overwhelms me,I was born and raised in NYC, and have lived in Boston for 5 years now, --so yes, I stand ON line :)
what overwhelms me is everything you are expected to see. Everyone's advice has been very helpful in narrowing it down. Italian -- hm. I know some spanish, hoping that helps me a little bit. I will also bring a translation book...My friend is writing down some helpful sentances like "that is a rip off" :) |
Rome can still be overwhelming, no matter how Manhattan-ized you may be.
I say stand "in line" and understand "on line" perfectly, nd se no reason for eithr camp to "correct" the other. I don't say (ex)change OF nor FOR dollars to euros. I say buy euros with dollars. Or I say "I'm going to withdraw some money from the ATM". |
Well, excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse <i> me</i>!
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lol, Cass --
When I ask for change FOR a dollar, I usually get quarters and such, not euros. In fact, I don't think you can even get one euro out of a dollar at this point. Megan, you'll have a blast and I don't think doing huge amounts of homework really helps if you are only in a city 2 or 3 nights, so it's perfectly reasonable to ask people for their own opinion of don't-misses. If you get to the Uffizi and have to wait in line ( ! ) for more than about 20 min., it isn't worth it for such a short trip. Santa Croce is far more worth it! |
Megan: The Streetwise Rome map is really good and not expensive. They carry it at Borders and Barnes and Noble. I don't recommend the Streetwise Florence map though; it includes the 'burbs and so is harder to work with for the historical center.
I lived in NYC for a year, and while I lived there I stood "on line." :-) |
That's one of the reasons life in New York can be so trying, standing on that line all the time.... :-D
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meganboston, if you have time before your trip, check out Rick Steve's book on Italy. He helps you prioritize and gives very good practical information. This book is small and light; you could take it with you.
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Believe it or not, but getting such positive feedback about my trip is making me relax more, and get excited...
As I mentioned before, I am doing this trip on limited funds, so I wasn't too thrilled to see books are 20 bucks and up. But, if you all insist to have one, then maybe it's worth it. I took out Lonely Planet's book on Italy from the library. Maps aren't that good. Thanks for the map tip Caravaggista, I'll make sure to pick one up. And Rex- thanks for making me nervous again! Hopefully you mean a good "overwhelming"...and how do you know I'm Manhattan-ized? Could be Bronx-ized...Thanks to everyone again! |
megan--FWIW, you can get some info right on this site--push "Destinations" above. Also, there are other websites with condensed guides for free. I don't really use them, so I don't know how good they are...
Keep that relaxed thought! Buon viaggio! |
You know, if I made you nervous, you will probably do better, because you will have expectations that you need "to brace yourself" - - and it will seem not that bad.
As opposed to thinking it won't being any big deal, and then freaking out at how REALLY intense it is. ;) |
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