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"Across Europe, discouraging Drivers Has Become Urban Policy"

Aug 2nd, 2011, 01:22 AM
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Hmmmm - does not compute; if one lives in the central core one is exempt from the charging.

Only if you are talking about congestion charges. Parking is not usually free (or free parking is so limited as to be a PITA) in city center locations.

The only problem is that you hae to repalce cars with public transit - done in europe but ery rare inthe US - since it would cut down on the profits of the oil companies.

Hogwash. It is about density. The EU is almost 4 times more densely populated than the US. Public transit without density is simply impractical and cost prohibitive.

If your intent is to visit major cities, it is silly to drive in them unless you have a true reason for doing so. That is true world wide.

I don't know about that. I would definitely rent a car if I were visiting LA. If taxis weren't so cheap, I'd consider renting a car in Seoul, as well.
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Aug 2nd, 2011, 01:49 PM
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I've driven in LA. Not a fan. You go for it.
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Aug 2nd, 2011, 02:00 PM
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"I've driven in LA. Not a fan. "

So do you rely on its world-class Tube system, its globally admired buses, or its ever so economic, seven-sigma, taxi network? The one London's cab supremos come to learn about professionalism from.
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Aug 4th, 2011, 11:37 AM
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flanneruk - do you know that LA now has a several-line metro rapid rail system?
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Aug 4th, 2011, 12:44 PM
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PalenQ on Aug 4, 11 at 3:37pm
flanneruk - do you know that LA now has a several-line metro rapid rail system?


I rode that metro rail from LAX to downtown Long Beach in April. I don't know if I would call it *rapid*.
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Aug 4th, 2011, 01:09 PM
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I rode that metro rail from LAX to downtown Long Beach in April. I don't know if I would call it *rapid*.

Considering that LAX to Long Beach is a 20 mile straight drive, I'm curious what transit system would offer "rapid" service. Sure, there are some truly rapid transit options from an airport to a core area of the city, but from the airport to a pretty peripheral area 20 miles away? I mean, taking public transport from LHR to, say, Shadwell would take 1-1/2 hours via public transit for the same distance.
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Aug 4th, 2011, 01:38 PM
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I am a great fan of the Los Angeles metro system and take it as much as possible whenever I go there. But then I also used the bus system most of the time during my 4 years in university -- did not borrow my brother's car very often.
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Aug 4th, 2011, 01:38 PM
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I've driven a lot of LA freeways and I would not call the constant traffic snarls where cars creep along rapid either, in any stretch of the mind during much of the day.
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Aug 4th, 2011, 03:10 PM
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We don't normally travel to big cities in Europe. However, we are visiting Vienna next month and will have a rental car for this portion of our trip. Our hotel in Vienna has guest parking for 10 Euro per day, which I feel is very reasonable. While in the city, we will primarily use public transportation.
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