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loisco Aug 24th, 2006 07:23 PM

? about ambien
 
I would like to take it to sleep (I hate flying). We have 3 planes to take to get to Milan from San Diego (and then a bus, train,etc.to Varenna)

I also like wine with dinner. Is that a no-no.? Is there a safe interval between the wine and ambien?

Has anyone had a bad (or good) experience with this?

mari5 Aug 24th, 2006 07:31 PM

Perhaps you could just take a benadryl?

kwren Aug 24th, 2006 07:36 PM

I took an Ambien on a flight to Vietnam...shortly after drinking some wine. It did the trick - I fell asleep right away I-) - and woke up some time after to use the airsick bag. :&

I recommend one or the other - not both!

djkbooks Aug 24th, 2006 08:21 PM

If you have two connections, you'd need a flight to be at least eight hours to take Ambien. Even then, you'd have to take it immediately - if you wait for beverage and food service it will be too late.

It is definitely a no-no to combine Ambien with alcohol.

If you do get a prescription for Ambien, it's important to try it out at home first a time or two.

I used it only once on a flight - the one time I packed our dinner, ate before boarding the plane and took Ambien immediately after boarding. I did sleep most of the flight but awoke with a very stiff neck which did not subside for several days.

I do appreciate Ambien very much, however, once there. It's best, for most, and in my experience, to stay up until normal bedtime at your destination. Taking it the first night ensures you get a good night's sleep. Sometimes I take it a second or third night. But, it does not always work quickly for me. Sometimes right away, sometimes not for quite a while.

Do a search here - there have been other posts with more information.

SurferX Aug 24th, 2006 09:04 PM

I agree with djkbooks except for the length of flight needed to awaken from Ambien. 15mg will only put me out for 5 hours max in a coach seat. Plus, taking it after a couple of glasses of wine doesn't result badly for me. Everyone is different. Staying up until 10pm the first night and then taking anoth 10mg to ensure a full, uninterupted nights sleep completely cures my jet lag.

Eleni Aug 24th, 2006 10:38 PM

But you really need to be careful with Ambien. I took it on a international flight and started hallucinating after about 30 minutes. It was really horrible.
Now I take Sonata, which is much milder and stays in your system for only 4 hours so you don't have to worry about being groggy when you are going through customs.

Dukey Aug 25th, 2006 12:35 AM

I used Ambien once and it DIDN'T WORK for me. On subsequent overnight flights I have used Melatonin and it worked very well.

tara3056 Aug 25th, 2006 12:46 AM

If you take Ambien, definitely don't have any alcohol! Ambien makes you feel kind of drunk on its own; any more and you might need the airsickness bag like the other poster mentioned.

I don't mean to scare you though, it doesn't make you feel sick on its own.

Make sure you leave yourself plenty of time to get over it - 5 or 6 hours is not enough. You need a minimum of 7 to clear it from your system. Finally, be careful with the dosage and try it at home (several times, preferably) first. Another poster mentioned needing 15 mg of it. I cannot imagine that!! I would die. I generally cut 1 5mg pill in half and that's enough to make me tired but not sick-feeling. 5 mg is borderline for me. 10 mg will either knock me flat on my back asleep (which I guess is the point) or make me throw up, or worse, make me constantly feel like I'm going to throw up until I finally succumb to the darkness of sleep that doesn't feel like sleep but more like purgatory. LOL. Okay, maybe that's overstating it a bit, but my point is, you want to find the lowest effective dose for you and know how it affects you well in advance of the flight.

tara3056 Aug 25th, 2006 12:47 AM

edit: my above post should have said that it doesn't *usually* make you feel sick on its own.

BTilke Aug 25th, 2006 01:41 AM

Like Dukey, my experience with Ambien is that it did absolutely nothing for me whatsoever. I suggest you try it at home to see if it works with you. If you *really* want to drink some wine in flight, in your at home test, drink a bit of wine at some point (I am NOT suggesting it's ok to mix wine and ambien). However, remember you may react differently to wine at 35,000 feet and also depending on whether you've had something to eat.

kwren Aug 25th, 2006 03:21 AM

I took Ambien the next night in Thailand to help get on a regular sleep pattern *wihout wine* and went right to sleep with no problems. Trying it at home first makes a lot of sense.

Wish I had thought of that! :)

mulifat Aug 25th, 2006 03:28 AM

While Ambien does work fine for some people, there are many others who report hallucinations and total memory black out. You might want to consider a newer product called Lunesta, which is also effective and has fewer reported problems.

tcreath Aug 25th, 2006 04:59 AM

With any sleep medication, definitely try it out a few days before your trip. I have no problems at all with Ambien and take it everytime I fly to Europe. As with the above, sometimes it works very fast and sometimes it takes several hours to kick in, so I always take it as soon as I get on the plane. If it works for you, you will probably end up sleeping through dinner anyhow. I definitely would advise against combining it with alcohol.

Tracy

travelfan1 Aug 25th, 2006 05:08 AM

I'm another one who tried Ambien with no success....awake the entire flight over.
I also recommend you try it at home first and maybe the new extended release would be better. Good luck.

felicia Aug 25th, 2006 05:11 AM

Ambien didn't work for me either. I now use Lunesta and that does the trick.

LJ Aug 25th, 2006 05:14 AM

If I am doing the math right for your 3 plane trip, you don't appear to have the length of any single flight that is needed to allow the 7 hours suggested here for the Ambien to clear your system. Doesn't that just compound the misery by forcing you to change planes while out-of-it? is there a half dose or something?

mw2006 Aug 25th, 2006 05:19 AM

I love Ambien. I took it on a flight from NYC to Paris recently and slept the entire flight, it was great. And I didn't feel druggy/groggy when I woke up. My understanding is it takes about 5 hours to work its way out of your system. Definitely not 8! That is one of the reasons why I prefer it. I can take it on a night I know I need sleep but will have trouble, and then wake up feeling good in the morning. Other sleeping pills have left me feeling icky.

One thing to keep in mind is that Ambien is designed to help you fall asleep, not stay asleep. That's why you don't wake up feeling druggy.

Of course everyone reacts differently.

Oh, and I took a half dose on the plane rather than full.

Genie Aug 25th, 2006 05:27 AM

My first time flying to Europe, my husband and I both took Ambian. He slept and I was awake the whole night. My next trip over I took Xanax, and I was much more relaxed and able to sleep. Good Luck !
P.S. One glass of wine will just relax you even more.

suze Aug 25th, 2006 05:51 AM

I would not mix Ambien and wine, that really is not a good idea. Instead Xanax or Valium (different class of drug entirely) which do not have that same negative interaction (but use both sparingly). Also Ambien has a longer lasting affect so would be cautious for a 2nd reason since you have 2 plane transfers.

People often mention benadryl, but for some (me) it has the reverse effect... wide awake and edgy, not sleepy.

Judyrem Aug 25th, 2006 06:02 AM

Does not work for me, and I even tried Ambien CR which gave me a headache. I am a rotten sleeper anyhow and have tried most sleep medications. I think I wil invest in a biofeedback CD,,,got tto try something. Xanax helps me relax, but not sleep.


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