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A two night splurge in Burgundy or Provence? Candidates for lodging to make memories of a lifetime?

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May 18th, 2007, 04:49 PM
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A two night splurge in Burgundy or Provence? Candidates for lodging to make memories of a lifetime?

Is it always true that price is a very good indicator of truly great accomodations?

Sometimes... sometimes not...

With that premise (sure to invite some arguing)... can you add to our list?

Chateau de Bagnols in the Beaujolais - - www.bagnols.com - - they have no hesitation to declare themselves "the finest five-star deluxe château hotel in France and is regarded by many as the finest vineyard chateau hotel in the world" - - wow... big claim. Maybe they're right?

Prices (best if you choose one of their special two-night packages, it seems)...

In a Traditional Bedroom 861 euro
In a Deluxe Bedroom 961 euro
In a Junior Suite 1046 euro
In a Château 1242 euro
In an Apartment 2686 euro

...includes one dinner and a half day Beaujolais wine country tour.

Or, slightly less stratospheric - -

Chateau de Gilly, between Dijon and Beaune - - http://www.grandesetapes.fr/chateau_.../indexhome.php

Classique Room 156 euro
Tradition Room 198 euro
Superior Room 260 euro
De Luxe Room 300 euro
Junior Suite 405 euro
Suite 715 euro

...with breakfast, and half board available, add 80 euro per person!

and, even less expensive...

Chateau Talaud - - http://www.chateautalaud.com/index_bedandbreakfast.html

Red Bedroom/suite 210 euro
Blue Bedroom 200 euro
Yellow Bedroom/Minisuite 190 euro
Cherry Bedroom 185 euro
Green Bedroom 175 euro
Room in the Vines 145 euro

Room alone, with breakfast... no dining on premises

What legendary places have you visited (or even simply heard about them) - - that we should consider?

Thanks in advance for all replies... and...

Best wishes,

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May 18th, 2007, 05:08 PM
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I wish I could afford to return to Crillon Le Brave. The food, the views
are so wonderful.
I'm not a chateau fan.
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May 18th, 2007, 05:29 PM
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Thanks, mimi...

All things being equal, I thinkwe will favor locations further north - - this will be part of a six night meander from Milan to Dijon.

But we will certainly throw it into the hat - - in what building.room did you stay? Several look to be newly added in the last year or two.

http://www.crillonlebrave.com for those who want a peek...
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We have stayed in three different buildings through the years (always the last expensive)
We'll spend one night in Burgundy that is not chateau like but we love it.
Avallon: Moulin des Ruats in a very bucolic setting.
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May 18th, 2007, 07:55 PM
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I really loved the Chateau d'Ige in the Beaujolais area (a Relais & Chateau property). Room was lovely, and dining absolutely delightful. The woman who owns the property makes you feel like a special guest. And the gardens are absolutely gorgeous! I spent 10 days in Burgundy in different areas, and this was my favorite (the Beaujolais). The Chateau de Bagnols does look wonderful, though, and is in that same beautiful area- more expensive than d'Ige.
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May 19th, 2007, 12:04 PM
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Chateau de Bagnols certainly sounds nice. I can't even choose my personal
"best" from the few luxury places we have stayed in the greater Burgundy, Macon, Beaujolais, much less the best in France. We absolutely enjoyed staying and dining at Troisgros in Roanne, Chateau d'Igé across the river from Macon, La Pyramide in Vienne, Jacques Langlois in Chagny and L'Esperance in Vezelay. Each one has its own charm and personality and I would return to any of them in a heartbeat.
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May 19th, 2007, 04:27 PM
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Hi Rex,

What a wonderful dilemma you have! Here's my contribution---although they're probably all too far south for what you're looking for.


How 'bout La Bastide de Marie in Menerbes: http://www.labastidedemarie.com

or

Even though Eze is more in the Cote D'Azur region it's still worth mentioning, Chateau Chevre D'Or:

http://www.chevredor.com/

Or

Four Seasons Terre Blanche -
http://www.fourseasons.com/provence/


Wherever you stay, hope you have a wonderful trip!
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May 19th, 2007, 05:19 PM
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We stayed at both the Bastide de Marie and The Bastide de Moustiers, both for a night, our presents to each other . We don't give birthday or Christmas presents to each other so can afford to splurge at a special place.
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May 21st, 2007, 02:11 AM
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In my response above, I mistakenly used the name "Langlois" in Chagny when I meant "Lameloise". Interestingly, Michelin saw fit to give Jacques Lameloise back his 3rd star after having demoted him to 2 for a short duration.
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May 21st, 2007, 09:30 AM
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Rex, when Chateau Bagnols opened, I cut out the literature and pictures from magazines. Besides being expensive, it seemed a bit south of the usual tourist path.
However, I believe the 'Olga' behind it is the one responsible for Hotel Tresanton, St. Mawes, Cornwall. We stayed 2 nights there in 2000, and absolutely have fond memories. She was the daughter of one of the big British hotel chains.
If you stay at any of these lovely sounding places, be sure and report in detail.
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May 31st, 2007, 09:32 PM
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bookmarking for myself again... this is not a splurge choice, but one of those "stumble across" finds, that originated by reading more about L'Esperance in Vezelay...

http://www.lapalombierevezelay.com

..this is not in the category of "splurge" choices, but you need a little variety, right?

...not even sure if this fits into our itinerary or not - - anyone have comments on this or any other places in Vezelay?
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Sue4: I'm glad to hear you liked Chateau d'Ige. My husband and I will be staying there for a night later this month and we're looking forward to it.
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Kate, Chateau d'Ige was my first "chateau" experience in France, and I really was happy with it. I was there in October, and the gardens were beautiful then - I'm sure June will be gorgeous. I envy you! I chatted with a lovely French couple sitting at the table next to mine in dining room - it was their 3rd visit there. I think it gets lots of people like that. I also was very impressed with the staff. It turned cold my last night there. When I went out to my car to leave early in the AM, one of their men was getting ice off my windshield and wiping down the car. I hated to leave!
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topping just in case there's follow-up
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Several years ago, we stayed at Oustau de Baumaniere in Les Baux (Provence). Great location, great restaurant, large pool, great suites, etc.

http://www.oustaudebaumaniere.com/

I've never stayed at Chateau de Gilly, but it's always been on my list for a return trip to Burgundy. Unfortunately, we stayed at L'Esperance in Vezelay--the chef had just lost one of his Michelin stars and from all accounts it was going down hill. Not sure of the current status.

Between Burgundy and Provence, more in the Rhone Valley, I'd recommend Pic in Valence. Sophie Pic picked up her third Michelin star and the food is to die for. Very nice rooms overlooking the courtyard and an easy drive to many wine estates.

http://www.pic-valence.com/


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Jun 21st, 2007, 03:56 AM
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<< topping just in case there's follow-up >>

Well, there is indeed follow-up.

As it turns out, we have made three choices - - and none is previously mentioned here!

Driving back from Turin (now - - our original plan was to train from Turin to Chambery or Lyon... but it was much preferable, from both cost and flexibility perspectives to travel by rental car, picking up in France and returning it in France)...

... our first stop is our "splurge" stop, at Chateau de la Tour du Puits - - http://www.chateaudelatourdupuits.fr - - staying in their "named" rooms - - http://www.chateaudelatourdupuits.fr/uk/rooms-views.php - - Baronne Marie Antoinette du Bettonet and Seigneur Pierre du Puits.

Heading north to Beaune, we have chosen from the Gites de France website...

http://perso.orange.fr/gite-oree-du-bois/index_eng.htm

... less expensive than ira's highly recommended Hotel Grillon and puts us out in the country close to Clos Vougeot, etc.

Our third stop did come from this Fodors web site (just not from this thread), and is actually an hour outside Burgundy, as our plan now has us moving back to Paris for the final three nights. I hope we can stop in Avallon en route to here, but something is bound to get slighted on this day 6 of the trip: le Cote des nuits, Dijon or Avallon/Vezelay - - can't all be visited in any meaningful way, in the same day... and end up here...

Lucarne des Chouettes - - http://www.lesliecaron-auberge.com

It's all a bit rushed, but there are always choices to be made in life.


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Jun 21st, 2007, 07:35 AM
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Rex, we stayed at Leslie Caron's hotel twice. It overlooks the Yonne. It was fun watching the local youngsters fishing. It's an hour and half to CDG so one year we were there before Provence, nother year, after.
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Thanks, mimi... I think I found it on a post you made... perhaps it was eveb on a thread that you started.

Our middle daughter is a 2004 graduate of USC film school (screenwriting), and works in Hollywood. She loves "vintage" movies with a particular magnetism for Audrey Hepburn, Leslie Caron and other starlets of that era. I am hoping we can bring back some "little known facts" or maybe photos of LC artifacts at her auberge? And we'll take a few items in the off chance of getting them autographed, if we should happen to catch her there. She may get pestered to do that quite a lot... I don't know... there's quite a market for memorabilia, photos and stuff on eBay (and she is just the tip of the iceberg, compared to even bigger "stars", "pinup girls", and so on from that era).
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Lots of posters of her films in the bar area. We saw her once when she was there but in deep conversation with the chef and she took off in her small car.
Has your daughter seen "The L-Shaped Room." A very different Leslie unlike in her other films.
I have two Alan Bates autographed photos that he gave me and I have a photo I snapped of Andy Warhol and Jim Morresy(sp) at a Love-in when we shared our wine with them.
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