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A perfect place to plotz
Is there a hotel or inn or bed and breakfast that you stayed in while visiting Portugal that would be the perfect place to kick back for five to seven days? My husband and I plan to spend two weeks in Portugal next spring, but my guy really needs one week where he can just relax, before we do the tourist thing - it's been a tough couple of years. It doesn't have to be five star or luxurious to fit the description. Thank you.
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I realize that you put this in the Portgual category... still, it would be more productive (and considerate), if you (reposted and) mentioned Portugal in the title.
Best wishes, Rex |
Yes, I like Plotzing in Portugal as a title :D
( precious, you used one of my favorite words ) |
I'm confused. Doesn't "plotz" mean to burst or explode (as with rage or some other strong emotion)? E.g., "When Mom hears you wrecked the car, she'll plotz!"
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plotz does mean to explode, from anger or <b>pleasure</b>.
in a nice hotel or inn, you might want to schlaf (sleep) :) |
Hmm ... the way I've heard it used, plotzing isn't usually a good thing. To burst with pleasure, and especially with pride, would be to kvell rather than to plotz.
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LOL, jahoulih, I am the <b>last</b> person to be discussing the correct Yiddish words here but I will give it a try-
(most likely I have made countless people who actually speak or understand Yiddish cringe) To Kvell is to feel pride or satisfaction, as in a grandmother kvelling over her grandchild. I have heard the word plotz used as I said- to just want to "burst with pleasure" as in "I am so happy I could just Pop"! "It feels so good I could plotz" .. lol...of course, this could be as well spoken as my French, so don't blame me if I start a Yiddisha war :D |
I'm with Scarlett, plotz is to burst, explode, with whatever emotion applies.
It is often used negatively, but I distinctly used to hear my grandmother say that the hot fudge sundae was so good she could plotz. A woman I take after, by the way. To kvell is to express pride or pleasure over something or someone but however nice it is, it doesn't have the 'burst' implication. Grandma would have kvelled over her grandchildren's accomplishments, perhaps she would have plotzed with pride. |
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I agree that kvelling isn't quite as explosive as plotzing. In German, "platzen" is to burst; "quellen" is to gush. (The noun "Quell" is a spring - the kind that bubbles up from the ground.) Obviously the use of "plotz" in all these contexts is hyperbolic; in the positive contexts, I'd say it's also a touch ironic.
But I'm still wondering about the original poster's use of the word to mean "kick back" or "relax." I've found this usage in a couple of English dictionaries, but it seems to be almost the opposite of the basic meaning. Anyone know if it's used that way in Yiddish, or did that meaning develop in English? |
You can loll on the sofa, you can lollop about the room, you can plop yourself down on the bed. I wouldn't have used plotz in the sense of kicking back and relaxing but, maybe as she said, the past couple of years have been so bad that they ARE ready to plotz! |
I have heard people use the word <i>Putz</i> as in <i>I am just going to putz around the house</i>...which is SO not what that word means either..but maybe to some people, it just sounds right.
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They probably think "putzing" is somewhere between "puttering" and "futzing." They have definitely got hold of the wrong end of the stick.
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"got hold of the wrong end of the stick."
Thank you for the Laugh of my day :D |
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Futz isn't really yiddish, it just sounds like it is. I can't state the origin here, but see http://www.thefreedictionary.com/futz :) |
Elaine, there's a completely different etymology here:
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionar...mp;x=0&y=0 |
Well, that's one theory. The Oxford English Dictionary suggests that it might be from Yiddish "arumfartzen," literally to fart around, which sounds a little more plausible.
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Interesting.
Well the verb to f--- around is consistent, whichever f verb it started out as Still the meaning is clear, I use 'futz around' all the time, myself I hope preciousbane gets her information on Portugal somehow :) |
I hope so too. She may plotz when she sees how her thread has been hijacked!
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You guys are very funny! "Plotz" is a word my husband uses to mean, however incorrectly, "to collapse". I will make sure to correct him, and as always, it will give me great pleasure to do so. Actually, this is a guy who loves words so I will print out your discussion for him.
In the meantime, I hope to post something more pointed, more specific, and get an answer to the original question. (I think it's so funny that people call me precious! That hadn't occurred to me. Anybody out there read Precious Bane? ) |
Precious Bane, Mary Webb..
...the "unbreathing quiet of the place"... |
okay, please fill me in on the book!
Precious is working on her Portugal info on another thread |
It was written in 1924 and the title comes from Paradise Lost , her father named her so, because she was his Precious Bane..she had Graves Disease. Her stories were brooding tragic love stories.
PBS made it a movie years ago, starring Janet McTeer as Prudence (with a "hair lip") & Clive Owen ( ((L)) )..it was so well done, a good story. |
Ooops, Hare
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Janet McTeer, AND Clive Owen?
This MUST be watched! I'll check netflix immediately *-:) |
One of my favorite books. I don't often read books again and again because I read so SLOWLY, but this one I have.
Clive Owen, huh, that's yummy casting. But as the brother or the weaver? |
There is a Yiddish word that is close to the meaning we assumed PreciousBane meant: POTCHKA. It means to be busy without purpose, which fits in with the PreciousBane goals of kicking back for five to seven days.
But plotz does seem to sound better, doesn't it? |
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