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A couple of apartment rental detail questions

A couple of apartment rental detail questions

Jan 13th, 2007, 04:32 AM
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fishee, I don't get what your question has to do with people renting an apartment in the middle of a city. Are you suggesting we rent the apartment and then make friends with the neighbors so we can see about stretching a clothesline across the street and hang our clothes out? Or do you think most of us stay in neighborhoods where we could just hang all our clothes out the window?
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Jan 13th, 2007, 06:22 AM
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That's what I was going to say, why is this confusing at all. Robjame is asking about a dryer in a rental apt. in the middle of a big city. Yes, you can hang up sheets and towels if you have a large yard and when it is warm weather. You can't do that in the middle of a big city, nor in an apt. And you sure can't do it in bad weather or when it's not warm or dry. YOu can't do that in Paris for many of those reasons, and people don't string clotheslines between windows across streets in central Paris (I'd like to see that on rue de Buci, don't think they'd go for that, although I've seen that in some lower income areas in some more Mediterranean cities).
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Jan 13th, 2007, 09:00 PM
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I just thought it was common practice (in the U.S.) to hang laundry out to dry -- even if it's just a few items in the house or apt.

I wasn't suggesting that robjame and his wife rappel down a rope to hang queen size sheets outside the window of their elegant, austere apt building in the 18th - although I absolutely love the image! (they could add some new expressions to the "C'est so Paris" website). But it's easy to put stuff on hangers and it all dries within a day, even inside the apartment.

Also, our rentals in Barcelona and throughout Italy, (in very cute bourgeois areas) had clothes lines -- outside the balcony and also in the light well.
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Jan 14th, 2007, 12:41 AM
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As several people have mentioned, dryers are not common in France. Beginning to be moreso, but there are still lots of people who don't have them.

If you come across a combined washer/dryer combination, it's worth remembering that they usually (always?) dry by condensing the water and draining it off, rather than by evacuating the hot air. A much slower process - and usually they can dry only HALF of the maximum washing load. So, if you can wash 10 pounds, you can dry only 5 pounds, and must take the other half out and wait.

I'm surprised that someone comments that clothes get crumpled while waiting for the door to open, as most machines I know have a cooling down cycle, then toss the clothes gently in several directions so that they are not squashed all together. And because they are so gentle, you don't get the same amount of shrinkage that you would from a North American dryer.

I'm also surprised at the number of rentals that provide no information about how to use appliances. Having found people trying to wash clothes in the dryer (we do have one) and wondering when the water was going to start, we now lable our machines 'Washer' and 'Dryer' plus leave very detailed instructions. I don't want them ruining the machine with too much soap, or by turning the dial in the wrong direction, or whatever. So it's in both our interests that people know how to use machines.

One more comment - often French appliances need to be turned off - unlike North American American, which just come to the end of the cycle, and stop. Our dishwasher will continue to throw water around for hours when you next start up a cycle if you haven't completed the first cycle by turning it off. A simple step, but if you find a European appliance behaving badly, make sure you turned it off before turning it back on!
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Jan 14th, 2007, 01:23 AM
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You're right Carlux, that is why I always show my guests how the washer dryer works when I show them around (Now I'll remember to tell them to turn it off at the end but they usually do it)

As a private owner I always give the damage deposit back upon departure (when I ask for one)and follow the rules fishee mentioned here. Why paying extra fees? Personal cheque + ATM and that's it!
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Jan 14th, 2007, 02:03 AM
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I've never had a dryer in my life - always just hang clothes up to dry on a rack/clothes horse in a warm room/near a radiator. It doesn't take that long! Even sheets - they don't take that long to dry at all. Towels I'd put on the radiator.

And no, in Paris it's definitely not the done thing to hang clothes outside apartments to dry. In fact a friend of mine got a severe telling off from his landlord for leaving clothes to dry on the balcony. And in Tours, my flatmate got shouted at by our landlady for leaving a pair of jeans out to dry on the windowsill - "This is NOT Italy", were the landlady's exact words!
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Jan 14th, 2007, 04:50 AM
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"I'm surprised that someone comments that clothes get crumpled while waiting for the door to open, as most machines I know have a cooling down cycle, then toss the clothes gently in several directions so that they are not squashed all together."

This new machine in London-- a Bendix, I think-- ends the dry cycle and there the clothes sit, without any further tossing. Because the dryer isn't really fully vented, there is much humidity still in the dryer, despite the cool down period. I patiently wait for the door to unlatch, as I said about two minutes. When it finally does, the clothes are one big mess. Khaki pants and even polo shirts are solid wrinkles and I cannot smooth them out with my hands, like I do when I take them quickly out of a hot dryer. It was a very stupid design flaw in my opinion.
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Jan 14th, 2007, 05:18 AM
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Back to your question re deposits...

I have just rented a Paris Perfect apt. for October. Their system is probably the best that I have used. They e-mail the booking form..fill in some info and fax, e-mail or postal service back to them. They also e-mail a secure site for your credit card info. Thy have an agreed to security deposit of 500 euros. They do not charge this to your credit card, or any part of it, unless needed.

I didn't spend 5 minutes taking care of all this...no PayPal, no bank wire transfers. Too bad they all can't have such an easy system.

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