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Kate Aug 22nd, 2005 03:25 AM

well, the Duchess of Devonshire thinks Austin based Pemberley on Chatsworth, anyway, whether it's true or not.

They've used Chatsworth as the location for Pemberley in the new film.

And Burghley House for Lady's C's pad, which I think is very appropriate, as it's so over the top:
http://www.burghley.co.uk/t2_whatis.asp

Maria_H Aug 22nd, 2005 05:36 AM

The external shots of Pemberley in the BBC production of pride and Prejudice are filmed at Lyme Hall in Cheshire.

http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/main...ce/w-lymepark/

elaine Aug 22nd, 2005 05:56 AM

Patrick, you are probably correct about the 3 months,maybe that's the total non-feeding period for the males, but not the same as the length of time the females are away. I remember while the film was on, trying to count months (March-July?)
www.marchofthepenguins.com
http://www.awi-
this one says the males don't eat for three months
http://www.usatoday.com/news/science...8-penguins.htm

I watch the BBC program "Ground Force" on BBC-America, and one of the oft-repeated episodes was when the crew went to the Falkland Islands to do a garden. Before starting work, they got up close and personal with some Emperor Penguins, so some of them do live in less-harsh climes.


Maria_H
yes, I knew that that more recent "Pemberley" wasn't Chatsworth.
Too bad, as Lyme Hall isn't even in Derbyshire, correct?

Maria_H Aug 22nd, 2005 07:05 AM

Elaine, Lyme Hall is in Cheshire, about a 15 minute drive from where I live! If you ever get chance to visit Chatsworth, it's not too long a drive to visit Lyme Hall too (about 40 minutes drive). It's not quite as grand as Chatsworth but worth a visit.

I believe that the interiors of Pemberley for that series were shot at Sudbury Hall, though I haven't been there.

elaine Aug 22nd, 2005 07:14 AM

Chatsworth has, as I said, long been on my list, but I have most often traveled to England on my own, and don't care to drive by myself, so I've been put off by the public transport logistics for Chatsworth (and to the Lake District, for that matter)

aschie30 Aug 22nd, 2005 07:16 AM

I don't notice any color differences on my DVD.

aschie30 Aug 22nd, 2005 07:22 AM

After I read the thread in its entirety, I just had to weigh in on the kiss at the end of Persuasion:

LOVED it. It was like a little indulgence taken by the filmmaker and the characters. Ann and Wentworth had wasted their entire young lives without each other despite being deeply and passionately in love. With fortune's help, ended up back together - in part - because they discarded the collective advice given by the society folk around them who were worried about how society might view their match.

Thus, it seems utterly fitting that they would take a relatively small risk and smoochy-smoochy in public while walking down a deserted Bath street.

Can you tell I love the film?

elaine Aug 22nd, 2005 07:51 AM

aschie30, no strong feelings about it here :), just the observation that it was a little out of the otherwise strict historical context
As I recall, that kiss led to a few minutes of a sequence with a parade and clowns, so the whole segment was a bit fantastical anyway.
Lovely.

Underhill Aug 22nd, 2005 07:53 AM

Chatsworth is, as the Michelin Guide would say, worth the journey. An overnight stay in nearby Baslow works very nicely, and there's a footpath through the woods to the Chatsworth estate. The fountains and cascades during the summer are beautiful to see--and on a hot day, to wade in!

elaine Aug 22nd, 2005 07:55 AM

website for the new P & P film
(thank you, JASNA)
http://www.workingtitlefilms.com/film.php?filmID=38

Maybe we should all be more hopeful.
They used Chatsworth House for Pemberley.

aschie30 Aug 22nd, 2005 08:49 AM

I have to admit that I'm not too optimistic about this new version of P&P. Why touch this when every critic will be comparing it to the almost-perfect Ehle/Firth version?

And the talentless Keira Knightley is filling the venerable Ehle shoes (didn't Ehle recently pick up a Tony)? I can't imagine her reprising Elizabeth's playful manner - Knightley's delivery is always strained and overdone. I don't think she can be subtle without being whiny or pouty. Ugh! I wish these filmmakers would leave well enough alone.

missypie Aug 22nd, 2005 09:21 AM

What a funny thread...P&P, other Austen films, with penguins thrown in from time to time!

All I can say is that it is worth watching the whole 6 hours of the A&E version just to see Colin Firth smile at the end.

elaine Aug 22nd, 2005 09:25 AM

missiepie, I agree, although Rintoul's smile was pretty gorgeous as well

Mathieu Aug 22nd, 2005 10:54 AM


Some other Austen/P&P stuff :

For fans of the A&E Ehle and Firth version : See if you can get a copy of the book, "The Making of P&P ". Really interesting stuff, full of production notes, location notes, actor interviews, photos of actors sitting around waiting to be called on set, photos of the actors in real life (so different), production problems, artifact reproduction, etc. Loads of behind-the-scenes pictures and amusing facts. I had no idea how difficult it was to shoot a scene when characters have to eat something (such as the Bennett family meal scenes). Theres a reason why most of the food that makes it into the actors mouths is green peas or mashed potatoes. And all those mouth watering roasts and puddings aren't what they seem. Only half of what they seem. Also, the chapter on continuity is very interesting.

For Austen fans in general : don't miss reading "Pride and Promiscuity - The missing sex scenes from Jane Austen's novels".
If you want to die laughing long and hard (excuse the pun), this funny and witty (and a bit raunchy) book is the way to do it.

Much as I admire all Dame Judi Dench's work, I think she'll be hard pressed to top Barbara Leigh-Hamilton's Lady Catherine de Burgh in the A&E version (the first I'd ever seen).

For you trivia buffs, both actresses appeared together in an episode of "As Time goes by". Do you know which one ? Scroll down for the answer.

And how do you pronounce "Ehle" ?
is it "ale" ? or a-lee ?







It was the episode where Lionel and Jean get married, and B L-H played the Registrar who married them.

smalti Aug 22nd, 2005 11:35 AM

Mathieu--

On imdb.com I read that Ehle is pronounced "EE-lee." She's the daughter of Rosemary Harris.

I agree that Barbara Leigh-Hamilton was wonderful as Lady Catherine--perfect hauteur, to-the-hilt arrogance.


aschie30 & elaine--

As to the Persuasion kiss: I presumed that the circus parade in the street served as a cover for them, that they could kiss publicly as the surreal procession was guaranteed to distract everyone's attention. But I agree that a public kiss was not appropriate for the era.

Again, www.pemberley.com is a terrific website for Austen fans!


elaine Aug 22nd, 2005 11:48 AM

Yes, I noticed Barbara Leigh-Hunt in that ATGB episode, quite different with modern short hair. But, if I have to pick one, I still think Judy Parfitt was the better Lady C, if only because she was younger which seemed to me to work.

I have "The Making of P & P" and it is a pretty and informative book. I actually prefer Jennifer E's looks as the brunette Lizzy, rather than her own blonde self.

tuscanlifeedit Aug 22nd, 2005 11:58 AM

ahhh, you guys have got me where I live.

Pride and Promiscuity: I don't think the sex scenes are all that funny, but I did find the scholarly introduction and notes to be hysterical. I laughed aloud. Then, I was a little disappointed by the main portion of the book.

And we haven't spent a moment discussing Sense and Sensibility. Although a lot of liberties were taken in the Emma Thompson film, I liked it very much. Thought they did a great job.

I stopped going to pemberly.com when too many of the book recommendations the proved to be nothing more than weak imitations of Austen, but maybe I'll go back.

SusanP Aug 22nd, 2005 03:50 PM

missypie, It's funny you should mention Colin Firth's smile at the end. My favorite "look" on his face is when he has just finished his bath and is looking through the window at Elizabeth playing with the dog outside on the lawn. The only thing is, that "look" was there when I taped the original show on TV but is not there in the boxed set of six VCR tapes that my husband gave me a couple of years later. I was very disappointed that that "look" somehow got edited out of the boxed version!


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