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8 days trip- Flying in Milan, flying out from Rome. Where should we visit?

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Apr 23rd, 2009, 04:08 PM
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You may save money by staying in an apartment. It will provide more space and allow you to prepare some meals. Here is a great one in Venice-

http://www.palazzofoscarini.com/pf/en/

One of my favorite places to eat in Venice-

http://www.lazucca.it/

Also, here is a very "must have" eating and drinking guide for Venice-

http://www.chowbellabooks.com/
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Apr 23rd, 2009, 04:42 PM
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zeppole - Sorry, I suppose I should have been more clear. I wasn't suggesting they try to do ALL of those things: Amalfi Coast, Pompeii, Mt. Vesuvious (although it can be done, I did it) I was really just suggesting Sorrento and maybe a day cruise to Amalfi - although as I re-read my earlier post I suppose it did sound that way. I suppose that's what I get for trying to rush in completing the post so I could get to a meeting. Sorrento really is a gorgeous place!
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Apr 23rd, 2009, 05:13 PM
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Must Sees:
the David in Florence
The guggenheim museum in Venice
the Trevi fountain in Rome
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Apr 23rd, 2009, 06:36 PM
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This is just my opinion, but I think as soon as you land you should head out of Milan like a scalded dog and get to Venice. You should stay two nights there, but if you sleep on the plane you can get at least a taste of Venice in a single night.

From Venice head to Florence, via Pauda. Get off the train in Padua (Padova), check your bags and see the Scrovegni Chapel. This is an advance ticket and it is well worth the effort to see. Then continue on to Florence.

You can stay two, three or four nights in Florence. If you stay longer you will have enough time for a day trip to Sienna or Pisa, both worthwhile.

Then go to Rome and spend the balance of your time there, but in my opinion you shouldn't stay in Rome more than three nights, preferably two. You'll only scratch the surface, but you can decide where you want to spend more time on a future visit.
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Apr 23rd, 2009, 07:30 PM
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The Hotel Berna in Milan is a nice hotel with reasonable rates if booked far enough in advance. We were there in March and paid $130 USD/night which is pretty darn good for Milan. Close to the train station where the shuttle bus from the airport drops you off. Easy walk to the hotel. I would recommend that you see the Duomo in Milan even though you are going to be wiped out from the plane ride. It's beautiful but also quite different from the other cathedrals you will be seeing and visiting as you move south. It'll be nice to have the experience as a comparison. Try for the tickets to the Last Supper, it doesn't take long and it isn't far from the Duomo. Did you mention when you are going?
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Apr 23rd, 2009, 10:08 PM
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I hope nobody minds my saying so, but people are suggesting some awfully exhausting itineraries for two people -- even if they are young -- getting off a 27 hour plane flight, and who have only a week in Italy.

The Scrovegni chapel requires a reservation and while it is a great work of art, it would really take far too much time out of an already very squeezed trip.

The Guggenheim museum in Venice is hardly a "must-see", and as I post all the time, I live in Italy, I've been to Florence many times because I love returning, and I've yet to see the real David in the Accademia. So I guess that's not a "must-see" either. And while the Trevi fountain is a hoot, especially at night, you can have a great time in Rome without seeing it. Venice and Rome are such rich places, you don't have to run around and see other people's "must-sees," you can simply walk in any direction and discover something fabulous.

Milano requires more of a strategy -- which is why many people never discover what it has to offer. Because the original posters are going to be so jet lagged, they should at least spend the night there. But although I recommended they try to see the most impressive sights, they simply may not have the energy to do anything but crawl onto a train bound for Venice.
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Apr 23rd, 2009, 11:51 PM
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A quick reply since I am on my break at work.
We decided to shorten our stay at Venice to 2 nights. We might stay at Milan 2 nights, Venice 2 nights and then to Rome for 4 nights.... My ideal is Milan, Venice, Florence and Rome for 2 nights each. But again I feel like I am rushing everywhere and I do want to relax and just walk around with no plans half of the day.
We just got our tickets and we are going in mid May. 2 stops on the way so it will be a long trip! I will write when I am home again! thank you!
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Apr 24th, 2009, 06:57 AM
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Kalea,

Keep in mind that every time you change locations you will waste at least half a day checking out of hotels getting to trains stations, waiting for trains, riding the trains, finding your way to your new hotel, and checking in. That is one reason why many are suggesting that you limit your change of locations on such a short trip.

Travel time alone:
Milan-Venice (2-3 hours depending on train)
Venice-Florence (3-4 hours depending on train)
Florence-Rome (1.5-2.5 hours depending on train)

Add on a minimum of an hour at each end of those travel times, and you will see how much of your day will probably be taken up with making the changes.

Milan-Venice (4-5 hours of one day)
Venice-Florence (5-6 hours of one day)
Florence-Rome (2.5-3.5 hours one day)

Yes, someone familiar with each city might manage the changes slightly faster, but I think my suggested times are optimistic.
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Apr 24th, 2009, 07:27 AM
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Callmekate, a cruise is not the best way to visit Venice. To really experience the city, you must stay there, enjoy it in the evening when all the daytrippers and cruisers have left, wander the back "streets," get lost.

The idea that one can take a tour or a cruise, sample many different places, and decide where to go back to and stay longer is a fallacy. You get herded to all the busiest, most crowded places at the busiest most crowded times of day. You stay either offshore on the boat or in a far from central hotel, one that's large and lacking local charm. You don't get the small discoveries as you walk to and from your hotel, the contact with locals.

(I get defensive when people don't like Venice.)
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Apr 27th, 2009, 04:33 PM
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Hi,
So I have been doing my research. I think we are staying at Hotel Berna in Milan, but I haven't decide where for venice and Rome.... If anyone can give me an advise which area I should stay, I might be able to make up my mind on the hotel. I want the hotel to be close to a station so it will be easy access to most places but no more than $150 per night. We will be staying in Rome for 4 nights (still thinking of squeezing a Florence day trip). If you have any suggestions please help me out

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Apr 27th, 2009, 08:04 PM
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Just to expand on my advice to get out of Milan and go straight to Venice. I agree the OP will be exhausted, although they are doing so much traveling they are bound to sleep a little on the plane (and perhaps later the train).

They are far better off forcing themselves to stay half-awake and going to Venice than they are simply staying in Milan because they are tired.

I don't do exhausting iteneraries, but my first day is always a killer. The absolute worst thing you can do for your trip is to check into a hotel at noon and sleep for six hours. Your entire day-night routine will be a shambles.

So I stand by my advice to go straight to Venice, but if you really want to see Milan, do so. But I would hate to spend such a large percentage of my first trip on Milan.
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Apr 27th, 2009, 09:35 PM
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Milan wouldn't be on my top ten as a destination but since you are going to be there it would be a shame to miss the cathedral. It took me years to get to Milan because I wasn't ever in the area. I've always wanted to visit the Brera and the Last Supper, but it was the Duomo that made the trip worth it.
I like your trip plan, and as far as a daytrip to Florence I would suggest leaving that as a wait and see. Florence has so much to see and feels so good when you get to stay at least a couple days. Rome will steal your heart and you may not want to give up any precious time spent there.
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Apr 28th, 2009, 12:44 PM
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Thank you both of you
Milan was actually never in my plan. I wanted a ticket that flew in Venice and then out from Rome but the airfares jumped in a couple days as we were deciding... So I ended up with this flight plane which was a good deal! $850 round trip from Hawaii! So, since we are going to be in Milan, I figured we can explore a day or two. My bf did the cruise around Europe couple years ago and he didn't like it at all because they had to be back on the ship by a certain time and could never get enough time to explore as much as they wanted so this trip he doesn't want to do the running around type of trip, he wants to be able to relax and not worry about the time so much.
pdx, yeah, I think I am going to do the wait and see for florence. If I feel like there are much more to do in Rome, I will leave Florence out for my next trip!
I am listing all the good places to eat that I want to go! this is the best part LOL. I actually found a great book at Louis Vuitton suprisingly!
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Apr 29th, 2009, 04:50 AM
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For your stay in Rome I would recommend looking into options for an apartment rental. There are options available for a 4 night stay and they are usually much better value than hotels. We were very happy with our rental through realrome.com.

I am confused by your saying that you want to stay "close to a station so it will be easy access to most places." Do you mean a metro station? The metro stops are really not very convenient to the central historic area where you will probably want to spend most of your time. We stayed in a central neighborhood (the old ghetto) and either walked or took buses.
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Apr 29th, 2009, 03:04 PM
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Well, I have to disagree with several posters here. We had wonderful food in Venice. Tried as much as possible to eat in places a little bit away from the main tourist areas. While we are "foodies" and love a gourmet meal, on this trip we were on a budget, and also didn't want to be tied to being at a restaurant at a certain time. So we ate at smaller, casual places - no reservations needed (of course it was November and not as busy as some other times of the year!) And some of the best food was at the wine bars.
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Apr 29th, 2009, 08:00 PM
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Thank you SCFoodie! I am glad to hear that. I am hoping to have great food in Italy!!!! In the guide book that Louis Vuitton sells has a whole a lot of restaurants from casual to fine dining and it is really helpful but they don't have Venice in there but like I did in Paris before, I am going to just pick an area and ask a random person that is walking their dog for suggestion. This worked really well
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Apr 30th, 2009, 01:27 PM
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Vttraveler,
Thank you so much for sharing the website! all the apartments are lovely! I really wanted to stay in one of them and I even emailed them but my bf wants to stay in a hotel, boooo! I will definately consider an apartment for my next visit though, thanks!!!
About your confusion with the close to station... my bad, I haven't really researched enough to know that there are not many rails/metros. I guess its more of a bus transportation in Italy. I just want to stay in an area that would be easy to go to all the sighseeing places. I still haven't decide where to stay in Rome... Probably around the Termini station or the area around trevi, navona or campo de fiori... i am really confused but I will figure it out. We are on a budget of around $150 a night. My bf thinks I am crazy that I can't make up my mind, he said he would be able to choose a hotel in 5 min! LOL
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Apr 30th, 2009, 02:23 PM
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Does B&B give you new towels everyday?
I found this lovely B&B called Santa Croce!!! I feel like I found a place I want to stay! Has anyone stayed there?
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May 1st, 2009, 04:20 AM
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Kalea-- One B & B in Rome that is frequently recommended in this forum and on Trip Advisor is Arco del Lauro. It is in the Trastevere neighborhood, on the west side of the Tiber.

This thread has a lot of good information with a mix of apartment, B & B and hotel recommendations and descriptions of the pros and cons of different neighborhoods in Rome
http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...odistricts.cfm
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May 1st, 2009, 04:33 AM
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I would land in Milan then get to Venice asap for 3 nights. Stay near the train station. Rest up well first night. Then to Rome for 5 nights. Stay near the train station. Florence is an easy day trip from Rome, or you can even do a day trip to Naples.
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