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Old Jul 7th, 2009, 09:27 AM
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6 days in London+6 in Germany vs 18 days in London?

Hi, first time traveler here, I love england and I'm finally able to plan a trip i've been waiting for many years =) My uncle lives near london and will be able to provide free room and board (and on weekends, quick travel), but I have two choices;

If I go in mid-august, I will be able to stay in london for a day upon my arrival, and go with his family to berlin for 5-6 days, then come back to london and spend about 6 days there before I have to go home. This will be a bit more expensive since i'll be paying for my part of the trip/hotel in germany as well, and the round trip flight is about $950. In germany I will be able to travel pretty decently considering my uncle's on vacation and know the way around etc.

If I go on july 22nd,I will be able to stay in london until august 10th, which is about 18 days, but my mobility will be limited as I will only have quick transportation during the weekends as my uncle will still be at work otherwise. I'll be able to stay longer and the round trip airfare is also about $600-700, and I won't have to pay for hotels and whatnot as I would in germany.

Anyway, I'm just asking because I'm ignorant of just how much time it takes to 'see' places, especially with limited mobility (since I'm travelling alone, and I only know my uncle and a couple others there who might also be working full time, I won't have an escort to go around london, and I hear its confusing to travel around alone for a first timer) is it more likely that i'll be unsatisfied with my trip to england+germany since i'll be spending less than a week at each place? or is it more than enough time to get over jetlag and look around etc? on the other hand i'd love to get away from toronto for more than half a month to england (since I've been in love with it forever) but I'm also worried I might be a caged bird for most of the weekdays and regret it.

Any advice would be appreciated in my making this decision, thank you very much =) i hope to have a wonderful trip regardless
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Old Jul 7th, 2009, 09:32 AM
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Where does your uncle live exactly? Britain has excellent rail service. I have friends who live quite a distance from London and manage to get into work everyday.
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Old Jul 7th, 2009, 09:36 AM
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No brainer IMO - but you know more of the personal details which might change things. But longer holiday for less money - I'd do England only.

Also, you can get just about anywhere easily by public transport and we can help you w/ that after we know what places you want to visit.

As avalon asks - knowing exactly where they live would help a lot.
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Old Jul 7th, 2009, 10:00 AM
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UK is very easy to get around, however, you need to add in the cost of traveling to/from your uncle's place. Knowing where he lives is crucial to how feasible it is for you to travel to London during the week when he's at work.

However, I love Berlin and I think 1 week in London and 1 week in Berlin will be a lovely combo.
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Old Jul 7th, 2009, 10:18 AM
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I think this one really depends on what you want to do. As others have said, if your uncle lives near a Tube or rail station, getting into London or around the UK is pretty easy. However, as yk very wisely pointed out, you'll need to factor in those transport costs, and perhaps some lodging depending on where you go. So the costs for the two trips may not be quite as different as you think.

As for me, I would probably choose the Berlin/London option, mostly because I haven't been to Berlin. And six days is a nice amount of time to see London and the surrounding area.
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Old Jul 7th, 2009, 10:28 AM
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I'd second the fact that after one day, you'd feel comfortable scooting around London. Rail (or Tube) into Central London, have a travel pass, and explore. Could also add some day trips to places like Stonehenge, Hampton Court,etc..

You could fill that time, and people here will help.

What may determine your choice are your interests and budget.
If London (and area) have been your dream, then adding Berlin to the mix would only dilute your experience.

You can do London on your own.
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Old Jul 7th, 2009, 10:53 AM
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I completly agree with Michel-Paris, the tube is very easy to use and there is so much to see in London that you won't have any trouble finding things to do. West End shows, museums, and day trips.
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Old Jul 7th, 2009, 04:44 PM
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Eighteen days in London sounds like sheer heaven to me.
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Old Jul 7th, 2009, 05:20 PM
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If you uncle lives in London or nearby suburbs travel into and out of the city is very easy and there's absolutely any reason you would need anyone to "take you around" except for a 5 minute lesson on how the tube works.

However, I think I would find 18 days in London too much. that only makes sense if you do a bunch of day trips - presumably by train.

If it were me I would want a change of scene in that many days and would do the London/Berlin option.
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Old Jul 7th, 2009, 05:23 PM
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There's no need to pay $950 for a roundtrip London-Berlin flight. Take a look at www.whichbudget.com and see what's available for various London and Berlin airports. And lodging in Berlin can be very cheap for one person too. No need to spend more than 35 Euros per day unless you want to.

With that in mind, I wouldn't bother with accompanying your uncle on his trip to Berlin, but would do some other combination where you could stay at your uncle's for less than 18 days, and the remainder in Berlin or another European city, and do an open-jaw flight into London and out of Berlin (or even vice versa).
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WillTravel's advice is excellent. I would not spend the $950 for the RT London-Berlin trip, especially since you are paying for everything yourself anyway. Most cities in Europe are easy to get around on your own. Take the 18 day trip, and plan on spending that $950 to go someplace on your own for part of the time. You could go to Ireland, Paris or the Netherlands for a few days. Take WT's advice and fly into London and home from another city.

BTW, it will cost a bit, but one of my favorite places in England is Bath. It is lovely and worth the time and money. Even if you don't go anyplace else, if you have any interest in museums and theater, London has plenty to offer for your whole time.
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Old Jul 7th, 2009, 06:27 PM
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Thanks so much everyone! And ehm....I haven't gotten an address from my uncle yet, but I know he lives in Middlesex, I'm terrible with the whole province/county/whatever you call it system in england. I know that it's pretty close to London though.

And I should probably mention that my trip to Berlin is very contingent on my uncle's plans, so I'm not totally aware of what Berlin has to offer and never considered it as a visiting spot too much (since I am a self-sustaining student and I never take vacations, so other than England where I have free accomodations I've never had the incentive to take a 'true' vacation to europe and spend a lot of $ that I don't have at the moment =p) My uncle has some sort of engagement there, so he'll be booking me too (if i decide to travel later and go with that option) for pretty cheap through connections or whatnot (he's suggesting that he pay for that as well, but I have way too much pride) I have heard awesome things about Berlin since i've been asking about it, and I think it'll be interesting.

In terms of England, I don't want to do a rush tour or anything, because I'd like to spend some time playing futbol with my uncle's kids too, and family stuff, and I'd like to see a few places, maybe not all, around london and perhaps a few countryside scenes outside the main cities (any recommendations? aside from stonehenge i'm stumped) But then again I'd get to spend family time with them anyway if I go to Berlin as it's gonna be a family trip for them, so it's just a matter of 'where' I think. I'd like to be open and check out Berlin too, I'm sure I'll have some fun times there, but the decision is a big one for me and I just want to get it as 'right' as I can because I probably won't be going anywhere else for a few more years!
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Old Jul 7th, 2009, 08:47 PM
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I *think* that a lot of Middlesex is covered in the outer zones of the Tube, so if I'm right, then getting into central London shouldn be pretty easy, provided your uncle lives relatively close to a Tube stop. And from central London you can get to many places very easily. Some day trips you might look into would be Bath, as previously suggested; maybe Oxford or Cambridge, York, Salisbury... those are all common ones. Knowing what you're interested in would help a lot, but I'd do a search on the boards for some of those and see what sticks out to you.

If your schedule isn't completely contingent on your uncle and his family, the suggestion for a budget flight from London is a great one - and in that case you certainly wouldn't be limited to Berlin. But if you want to spend more time with your family than not, you may not want to go that route. Whatever you decide, I'm sure you'll have a great trip!
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Old Jul 8th, 2009, 03:44 AM
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$950??? $950????

That is simply not a fair representation of the usual fare from London to Berlin. Wherever you are getting that information from you must stay away from, forever. It's impossible to base decisions on supporting information like that.

6-7 days, anytime in August, is showing at between $149 and $254, inclusive, for return airfare.
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Old Jul 8th, 2009, 06:11 AM
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l1kel1ke: Please clarify - I thought you meant the tickets for the entire trip is $950 as opposed to $600-$700 for just R-T to London. That you were comparing the pros/cons of the two trips and that London would have $600-$700 fares and London/Berlin would total $950 . . . .
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Perhaps the OP can clarify but I took his estimate of $950 for the Berlin part of the trip to be for his airfare and his share of hotel etc.
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Old Jul 8th, 2009, 06:27 AM
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laurie_ann: Yes -- that is what most folks thought. But I just sensed he meant the full costs -- in context w/ the rest of his post . . . .
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oh sorry, I should have clarified

the $950 was not for between london-berlin, its from toronto to london and back in late august. In late july, it seems i can get a flight for $700 from toronto to london and back.
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