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canoli Apr 15th, 2004 09:46 AM

6 days/7 nights in Scotland
 
Hey everyone! I'm trying to put together an itinerary beginning in Glasgow and ending in Edinburgh Sept 28-Oct 5. We are planning on renting a car once we head out of Glasgow and returning it when we arrive in Edinburgh. Wanting to see as much as possible. Just to note, my husband's family comes from just south of Glasgow (Ardrossan area), central highlands, and Isle of Lewis (Stornoway). We don't have to visit all 3 spots b/c we don't want to compromise missing out on key places, but if possible to visit all 3, that would be great. We definitely want to stay 2-3 nights in Edinburgh. Thanks in advance for your help!

janis Apr 15th, 2004 11:02 AM

OK - you only have 6 days and want to spend 2 or 3 of those in Edinburgh. This really cuts back on how much you can see. I'd forget about Stornoway this trip just because of the logistics.

Where abouts in the "central Highlands" -- that is a big area.

But assuming east of Loch Ness and west of Aberdeenshire, here is a way you could squeeze in a lot:

Don't stay in Glasgow. Upon arriving pick up a rental car and drive down into Ayrshire to spend the first night. I don't usually recommend driving a lot on the first day - but down to Ardrossan/Troon/Prestwick/Ayr is not a tough drive.

You can explore Ardossan and the area around it that day and then the next day do any other exploring you want - Culzean Castle, the golf courses, whatever.

Then leaving Ardrossan I'd drive up across the Dmbarton Bridge and along Loch Lomond and spend the night somewhere near Crianlarich or - if you got an early start farther north like outside Ft William. You'd see Loch Lomond, Glencoe, some great scenery, etc.

Now where you go depends on where the highland part of the family came from. Your third night should be near where ever that is.

Then down through the Perthshire countryside seeing maybe Lochs Tay and Earn. Spend the night somewhere near Striling or Callander.

Then in to Edinburgh, turn in the car and stay 2 nights there.

canoli Apr 15th, 2004 12:34 PM

Thanks Janis! Just realized that we are arriving at Prestwick airport b/c we are taking a flight from Shannon (we'll be in Ireland for a few days prior) so staying around that area will be perfect.

If I remember correctly, my husbands family is from the loch lomond area, so I guess that's not really central highlands.

So, b/c his family is from that area, should we still stay in Crianlarich or should we head to Oban?


janis Apr 15th, 2004 04:17 PM

Prestwick works out great for you -- you'll be right there w/o having to drive more than a few miles.

I don't think going to Oban is a good use of your limited time. There are many better places to visit - unless you were going over to Mull. But with your limited time that's probably not in the cards.

No - Loch Lomond is definitely not "highlands" but it is a wonderful area. Do you know where near Loch Lomond the family is from? Because if it is over to to east then you can have a wonderful couple of days exploring that area including Loch Lomond, the Trossachs, several lochs, waterfalls, Balquhidder (where Rob Roy is buried), Inchmahome Priory (on an island in the middle of the only "lake" in Scotland).

With the new info think of 2 nights in Ayrshire - there is a LOT to see besides family sites/Ardrossan.

Then 2 nights somewhere just east of Loch Lomond - Aberfoyle or maybe Callander area. Leaving Ardrossan, travel up the west shore of Loch Lomond and then through Crianlarich, take a short detour to Killen for the Falls of Dochart, then down into the Trossachs. if your B&B is near Aberfoyle you will be on the road that goes to the east shore of Loch Lomond at Inversnaid. The next day you can visit Stirling and Doune castles or just wander around the Trossachs.

Then drive into Edinburgh for the last 2 nights. It is a good idea to drop your rental car at the airport and take the cheap airport shuttle into the city. BUT if you need to get back to Prestwick, the easiest way would be to drive from Edinburgh - so you might want to keep the car even tho' you won't need it in Edinburgh.

(BTW - if the family connections are west of Loch Lomond I'd do the same itinerary - except stay the 2 nights in a B&B in Luss or Tarbet and use it as a base to explore Loch Lomond and parts of Argyll before heading to Edinburgh)

sheila Apr 15th, 2004 10:23 PM

Let me give a different twist to this trip for you?

I definitely agree that, arriving at Prestwick you should do the Ayrshire coast first. Pick up your hire car, and head south. Can you give us an aidea what time your plane gets in. You see, I absolutely guarantee that if you go to Lewis it will be the bit of your holiday that remains with you for ever.

But again, the obvious thing to do is fly from Glasgow to Stornoway, if you are to fit this in. There's a flight at 6pm at night, which you might want to try for on the day you get there, or you could get the 9am the next day if that would work better for you.

Then stay there on the 30th and come back to Glasgow on the 5.20pm flight on the 1st. (Cost 30-1) is less than £100.

When you get back you have comfortable time to drive up to either Rowardennan or Inverernan and have apleasant evening on the shores of Loch Lomond (which is Highland by anyone's standards:)).

Next day drive round the loch in a leisurely fashion and south through Balquhidder and Callender to Stirling and Edinburgh, and stay there till you go home.

More hassle but so much more rewarding

canoli Apr 16th, 2004 05:52 AM

Thanks Janis again for your input and thanks Sheila for your twist...now I have some thinking to do.

Janis and Sheila, I actually have an additional night that wasn't accounted for, so I need to pick your brain again.

If I go with Janis's plan:
2 nights in Ayrshire
2 nights in Aberfoyle or Callander
1 night ?
2 nights in Edinburgh

Shelia, I believe we arrive in the late afternoon sometime around 4 or 5, so it might be tough taking that flight that evening.

So, if I choose your plan Sheila and take a flight to Lewis, does this sound right?
2 night in Ayrshire...head to Glasgow and take flight to Lewis?
2 nights in Lewis?
1 night highlands area?
2 nights in Edinburgh

Also, could you both reccommend some good B&B's?

Thanks for all your help. I've been reading so many threads, but there's nothing like getting answers to your own questions!

Sarah

axelrod6 Apr 16th, 2004 06:13 AM

Hi - Just a vote for you to take up Janis's suggestion that you visit Inchmahome Priory. It is a magical place. My husband and I happened upon it by accident while driving through the countryside. We saw a some cars parked along the road by a lake and got out to see what was there. A boat was about to leave for an island so we bought a ticket, grabbed a brochure and got on. Only then did we realize that we were headed for the ruins of a priory where Mary had been hidden away as a small child to protect her from assassins.

The site itself is beautiful and taking a picnic lunch would be ideal. We think of it as one of our favorite memories of Scotland.

Portia

canoli Apr 17th, 2004 06:36 AM

Thanks Portia! I'll look in to that :)

sheila Apr 17th, 2004 07:19 AM

Canoli

with the extra night what I'd do would be:-

Night 1 somewhere in Ayrshire. Do the Ayr tourist trail next day; night 2 either same place or at an airport hotel. Day 2 flight to Lewis and come back the following early evening; drive over the river and up to Loch Lomond. Day 4 drive round the Loch and head through the Trossachs towards Edinburgh. To be homest, if i had to lose something it would be the Ayrshire bit, but each to their own....

almcd Apr 18th, 2004 05:17 AM

As a resident of Edinburgh for many years,now living in Canada, I would like to make the following suggestions. Firstly, you really do not have time to visit Lewis and the outer isles. Driving in the north of Scotland is very slow with one track roads being quite common. Ardrossan is really quite a sad place and not worth a visit. However, I would recommend taking the ferry from Ardrossan to the Isle of Arran. It is a 55 minute trip and cost about 5 pounds per person. Arran is advertised as Scotland in miniature and it is true. You can get a round the island bus at the pier in Brodick and tour the island all day, getting back in time for the last boat back or you could stay in one of the many bed and breakfast establishments in Brodick. My parents used to live in Brodick and I know it well.
If you would be interested in doing a tour from Edinburgh, using your car, I can recommend East Lothian. Going to Gifford and going over the moors to Kelso is a very nice trip and as part of your day, youi could include some of the gorgeous mansions that are open to the public.They are places like Floors Castle, Mellerstain(home of the silver staircase) and Abbotsford, one time home of Sir Walter Scott. These places are not all that well known and the tourist traffic is not high. However, they are spectacular if you are interested in that sort of thing.
Best of luck and I hope the weather is kind. That is what makes or breaks a holiday in Scotland


canoli Apr 20th, 2004 05:20 PM

Janis or Sheila: If we choose not to go to Isle of Lewis and just stay 1 night in Ayrshire, would it be reasonable to stay 1 night in or near Glencoe and travel to Isle of Skye...or can we easily get there from the Aberfoyle or Callander area?

Thanks,
Sarah

janis Apr 20th, 2004 11:26 PM

canoli: If you only stay the one night in Ayrshire and skip Lewis you'd have time to do the Trossachs, Glencoe, AND Skye.

You can easily drive from Callander through Glencoe, have enough time to see the Glencoe visitors' center, then a quick stop at Glenfinnan and be to the ferry At Mallaig by late afternoon/early evening. You really don't have to stay the night at Glencoe.

sheila Apr 21st, 2004 12:47 AM

I think it's reasonable to drive to Glencoe. If I were you, I'd not try to cram Skye into that agenda. You COULD do it, but you kind of need seven league boots and I suspect it might not be that much fun.

You are probably misunderstanding the narrowness and twistiness of Scottish rural roads.

canoli Apr 29th, 2004 06:28 AM

ok...so it's been awhile since I have been on this thread and I'm still just as confused as I was earlier on deciding where to go. I'm sorry to keep hounding this issue but we now have another couple traveling with us and they are leaving out of Glasgow on Sunday AM while we are leaving out of Edinburgh Tues AM. Would it make sense to stay:
1 night in Ayr
2 nights in Callander
1 night in Oban
1 night somehere on the way to edinburgh and easy access to glasgow or Oban again or just stay in Edinburgh and make it 3 nights there
2 nights in Edinburgh...or 3

Thanks,
Sarah

janis Apr 29th, 2004 08:28 AM

OK - to confuse you even more :-)

Callander and the area around it is very convenient to both Glasgow and Edinburgh.

SO -- If you really want to go to Oban you could do it this way:

Ayrshire 1 night

Oban 1 night

1 night somewhere else like near Invergarry/Spean Bridge or even, with a stretch, on Skye. Near Invergarry would be my choice since you could see a lot of great scenery including Glencoe, the great glen, etc.

2 nights Callander

Then your friends leave for Glasgow and you travel on to Edinburgh.

canoli Apr 29th, 2004 09:33 AM

Thanks Janis! I don't have to go to Oban, I just thought it would be nice to visit Isle of Mull. I'm just trying to see as much as possible. So, if you feel there are better places to visit, then I'll take you up on that :)

canoli Apr 29th, 2004 09:47 AM

forgot to ask...which place is better to stay... ardrossan or ayr??

janis Apr 29th, 2004 04:04 PM

OK - how about this?

1 night in Ayrshire - I wouldn't stay in Ardrossan, but probably a little farther down the coast in Ayr, Troon or Prestwick. Troon has some lovely B&Bs.

Next day drive through Argyll to Oban. here you have a couple of choices. Either stay the night in Oban and take an early a.m. ferry to Mull for a day trip and getting back to Oban in the early evening then driving to somewhere near Ballacullish/Glencoe. Then the next day down to The Trossachs/Callander.

OR - even better to my way of thinking - stay TWO nights in Ayrshire. This will give you 1 full day to explore and search family roots. Then leave Ayrshire early in the morning and drive to Oban to catch the Mull ferry by noon/early afternoon. It is less than 120 miles from Troon to Oban. This will let you stay on Mull instead of in Oban. Spend that 1/2+ day and the next day until about mid/late afternoon exploring Mull. Then take the ferry back to Oban and drive to the Callander area.

To do either of these itineraries you should pre-book your ferry through the CalMac website. That way you won't have to wait if the ferries are running full.

An Ayrshire/Mull/Trossachs/Edinburgh itinerary will give you a really amazing range of scenery/castles/etc.

canoli Apr 30th, 2004 08:11 AM

Thanks so much Janis! Now I have a better idea as to how to plan our trip :)

canoli Apr 30th, 2004 10:32 AM

Janis,
Since we are going to have a rental car, is that going to be a problem traveling to Mull? Are you allowed to leave your vehicle at the ferry station? If so, can you leave it overnight and is it safe?

janis Apr 30th, 2004 10:57 AM

You really will need your car on Mull -- It is a car ferry so you take the car w/ you. But you need to pre-book the sailing to be sure you can get the car on board since space is limited. If you were going on foot and not taking the car, you wouldn't usually need to have a reservation.

Places to see on Mull (well there is a lot more to see but you'll only have about 3/4 of a full day so you'll have to skip some things) include -- Iona, Calgary Bay, Tobermory and Craignure castle. Plus other really gorgeous beaches, etc. The sunsets from Fionnphort are to die for - the sun sets directly behind Iona and the skys are amazing . . . . .

If you just wanted a day trip to Iona you could take a ferry/coach tour from Oban that takes the ferry and then crosses Mull to Fionnphort where you catch the foot ferry to Iona. Iona is wonderful - But there is so much more to see on Mull you really should take your car and tour the isle on your own.


nenmc May 1st, 2004 05:48 PM

If you decide to go to Oban and on to Mull, be sure to take a boat trip to Staffa. The islands hexagonal, volcanic rock formations and "Fingal's" cave are not to be missed. Same formations as found in the Giant's Causeway in Northern Ireland. The island is uninhabited and has a Puffin colony. I bought a package in Oban which included my ferry, bus on Mull and ferry to Iona. The trip to Staffa was booked separately but the whole outing was completed in one day returning to Oban.

LaurenSKahn May 1st, 2004 06:37 PM

OK, given your limited time, I am going to recommend that you spend at least 2-3 days in Edinburgh and base yourself someplace else for the balance of the time.

I do not recommend trying to get to the islands because you will spend too much time in the car and not enough seeing things. A week is not a lot of time.

I also do not recommend a bunch of "one night stands" in B&B's. That would be a killer; packing and unpacking gets old very quickly. It is far better to just stay put and do day trips if you want some time to just relax. If you want to be based in the Loch Lomand area, use that for the second base. You could also use Troon--or wherever you choose.

The Aran day trip is a possibility. Aran is nice but I would not put it on the top of my list. If you go, reserve a car on the island and leave yours on the mainland. It is actually cheaper than bringing your rental car over.

You could actually spend a week in Edinburgh and not be bored but, then, when I go there, there is so much to do, it is hard for me to get out of Edinburgh.

I have been to Scotland 3 times and still have yet to get to Skye or Harris & Lewis. Mostly I home exchange and try to get a deal for Edinburgh in August because I love the Fringe Festival. To take full advantage of the exchange home, I just do day trips with only a couple of nights in B&B's. Last time I went to see a friend in Troon overnight and went to Culloden overnight from my home exchange base.

You cannot see all of Scotland in a week unless you are just going to do drive bys and never get out of the car. That is no fun and you will just end up exhausted and grouchy.

Remember, it's a vacation, not a forced march--and you can always return to see what you missed. There is, after all, a castle on every street corner (well, almost).

CFI Jul 19th, 2004 09:34 PM

I'm chiming in a bit late but have some thoughts similar to others. My wife is from Largs (north of Ardrossan where she went to Ardrossan Academy)where many of her relatives and school friends still live (you'll pass a white Nardini's Restaurant - my wife worked there as a young girl). We've been to Scotland together seven times covering most of the mainland and numerous islands (Skye, Iona, Mull, Arran, Orkneys).

Personally, in Edinburgh at the end of your trip, I'd suggest the castle, walk the Royal Mile, pass the new Scottish Parliament (opening 09/07/04),take a tour of Holyrood and pack your bags for the trip home. I'd limit it to two nights at most since there's so much to see elsewhere.

At the start of your trip, I'd take the road along the Clyde Coast from Glasgow to Ardrossan (it's more scenic than an inland route). As others mentioned, Culzean is the local castle (Eisenhower's wartime Scottish HQ). It's not one of the old picturesque types, but it has a nice location on a cliff. On the northern outskirts of Fairlie is a great restaurant - Fin's (try their sticky toffee pudding if you're in the neighborhood at meal time; sample menu at www.Fencebay.Co.UK). If you enjoy Robert Burns' poetry, you could see his birthplace in Ayr, walk across Brig 'o Doon, see the cemetery he wrote about in poems, etc. If you enjoy golf you can check out Troon (where they played last week's British Open).

I'd then suggest going back north asap, crossing the Erskine bridge and heading north to visit Loch Lomond. If you had more time, I'd suggest a drive on the east bank to a nice lodge on the lake (good place for lunch and maybe the night) but, with time limited, suggest you stay on the west side. If you have time, you could go to the Visitor's Centre on the south end (nice views, food, film about the "Loch Lomond" song - high road, low road, and all that). If you don't skip and drive the 82 (I think that's the road) along the west side to Crianlarich (mentioned by others), across Rannoch Moor (take the time to get out and walk into the moor and jump up and down - it's very "boggy" and the ground seems to move), through Glencoe (before leaving read about the Campbells and McDonalds and the massacre at Glencoe - it's a sad but interesting part of Scottish history). Glencoe is, in my opinion, one of the most beautiful inland spots in the entire country. Just south of the Visitor's Centre, on the west, is a small road heading into the hills to the site where the last Harry Potter movie was filmed. If you haven't seen the movie, see it before you go and pay attention to the scenery - that's Glencoe. If you're interested and can't find the road, ask at the Visitor's Centre.

If you take time to enjoy all of the above, you probably won't have time for much more. I wouldn't suggest trying to squeeze Skye in. Someone mentioned Oban - it's a nice little town with a good harbor with fishing boats and ferries to Mull and other islands (Prince Di's mother lived near here before her recent death) - but that also may be pushing it.

Driving is no problem; just takes some concentration to stay on the proper side of the road. Before pulling out of parking lots, etc., think which side of the road you should end up on. You'll have a lot of two-lane driving but the one-lane roads are all farther north, mostly in the highlands.

When visiting a new country after a long flight, we like to have a hotel reservation for the first night and the last night but otherwise wing it. There are a lot of B&Bs, you'll have no trouble finding a place to stay, flexibility in your schedule is a good thing, and Scottish breakfasts are part of the experience. Try the whisky (everyone has personal favorites) - neat in a small glass to which you add just a couple of drops of water to bring out the aroma and flavor. Haggis is good but you won't find it on most menus that time of the year; it's mostly a tourist thing until Robert Burns' birthday dinners in January. If you're lucky you'll run into a piper or two. Be prepared for rain but don't panic; it's only water. We've usually had very good weather, but it could rain every day; one never knows.

Let me know your plans and maybe I can make a few more suggestions. I've driven the road from Glasgow along the Clyde coast twenty or thirty times (during my seven visits) and have been to Loch Lomond and Glencoe four times.


canoli Aug 11th, 2004 05:22 PM

Hi all, and thanks CFI for your recent helpful tips. It's been a while since I've been on this thread...and I still don't have my trip finalized...and I leave in just over a month! It's been overwhelming trying to plan not knowing much about the various places to visit, recommended B&B's to stay, and planning for another couple too! We were so concerned about visiting the Ardrossan area and now come to find out, not much of my husband's family is even from there. If I could just get some more help in creating a clean cut itinerary for 6 days/7 nights arriving in Glasgow Prestwick on 9/28 and leaving out of Edinburgh 10/5 I would greatly appreciate it. I feel so silly that I can't get this trip together...it's not even the first time I put something like this together!

Thanks in advance for your help,
Sarah

Scotia Aug 11th, 2004 05:49 PM

If you are staying overnight in Oban, I recommend the Barcaldine Manor House, 9 miles north of Oban. We could not get accommodation right in Oban and the Barcaldine House was recommended to us. The owners are delightful people. Here is a link: http://www.barcaldinecastle.co.uk/

bettyk Aug 12th, 2004 08:42 AM

OK, this is what we did in May, although we were coming from the Lake District and did not start from Glasgow.

We spent 1 night in Stirling at the Stirling Highland Hotel because we wanted to see Stirling Castle. The hotel is walking distance to the Castle. There is also the Church of the Holy Rude and a couple of other interesting places to visit right around the Castle. Stirling Castle was amazing and the views from the castle are fabulous.

From Stirling, we drove across Glencoe and on to Port Appin which is just above Oban on Loch Linnhe. We stayed at the Pierhouse Hotel which has some of the best and freshest food I've ever tasted. While lovely, Port Appin is rather isolated so you may prefer to stay in Oban.

The next day we head north towards Inverness and stopped at the ruins of Urquhart Castle on Loch Ness. We continued thru Inverness and down to Coylumbridge near Aviemore and the Cairngorm National Park. We overnighted at the Hilton in Coylumbridge.

The next day we decided to visit the nearby Glenlivet Distillery and it was one of the highlights of our trip. From there it was a short drive to Dunkeld on Loch Tay for 2 days at the Atholl Arms Hotel. Again, this hotel served great food and was right on the River Tay. Dunkeld is a lovely little town where you can take nice long walks along the River. The next day we made a day trip to Aberfeldy and Kenmore and returned thru Crieff across the Sma' Glen. The scenery thru here was magnificent.

From Dunkeld, we drove to Edinburgh Airport where we turned in our rental car and took a taxi to our hotel, The Old Waverley on Princes Street. We stayed in Edinburgh for 2 nights before catching a flight to London.

I know it's difficult trying to decide how much you can reasonably see in the time you have. Scotland is so beautiful. This is only one possibility.

sheila Aug 12th, 2004 02:36 PM

Can you post what you're thinking about and let us contructively criticise?

canoli Aug 13th, 2004 06:08 AM

Ok, here it goes:
TUES: Arrive at Prestwick Airport at around 4:30pm. At this point I just want to stay the night somewhere nearby that's worth visiting.
WED: Get up early and drive north to Oban area. Visit Isle of Mull during the day and stay in Oban that night. (pleae feel free to offer a diffrent place to visit!)
THURS: Drive to Glencoe, Ft. William, down to Loch Tay and stay the night either in Crainlarich or Callander (which place would be best?)
FRI: Visit Loch Lomond, Trossachs,and surrounding areas and stay again in same place.
SAT: Visit Stirling and possibly Edinburgh and head to Glasgow to stay night with our friend who is leaving out of Glasgow early the next day(her Husband has to leave before she does on Friday)
SUN: Early am leave Glasgow and head to Edinburgh, drop off our rental car and stay for 2 nights...where should we stay?
MON: Edinburgh - tour city
TUES: leave early AM out of Edinburgh

janis Aug 13th, 2004 08:56 AM

If this is a duplicate appologies - having trouble posting:

Your new itinerary is doable (with a couple of adjustments)

Don't try to race into Edinburgh on Saturday. There will be plenty to see in/near Stirling from your base in/near Callander (my choice over Crainlarich -- it is more convenient).

So just go to Stirling castle - at least 2 or 3 hours there and then you can go to Bannockburn, or Doune, or the Wallace Monument or Inchmahome Priory. I. Priory would be my recommendation but Doune would be a close second.

No the one problematic day - Wednesday - driving from Ayrshire to Oban, catching the ferry to Mull touring the isle and taking the ferry back to Oban will be pretty difficult. You won't be there during high season but it is always a good idea to pre-book the car ferry to ensure you'll be able to get on. You would have to be at the ferry by mid morning at the VERY latest to have any time to see Mull/Iona.

I adore Mull but this is going to be your hardest day and you likely won't be over your jet lag making it even worse. it is about 125 miles to Oban from Prestwick.

A couple of suggestions -- If you "must" go to Mull, I'd drive north from Prestwick after you arrive. Not far - certainly not all the way to Oban. but maybe as far as Luss on Loch Lomond. This would just about cut your journey in half the next morning. You could be in Oban much earlier.

Or -- drop Mull and just visit Oban and the area around it.

sheila Aug 14th, 2004 01:35 AM

Prestwick area- this is kind of off my patch. I'm nota huge fan, but given where you're heading to, next, why don't you cross the river to Dunnoon and stay in Tighnabruach. It's on the way to Oban.
WED: Bluntly, unles you get to Oban the night before- which is quite doable, you will not make Mull that day. It's far too much. If you were to aim stright for Oban, that would probably get the jet-lag out of the road, and give you an eaarly start for Mull. THURS: On Thursday, miss out Fort William. there's nothing to see there anyway. Stay in Callender, not Crianlarich.
SAT: Stirling, Edinburgh and Glasgow in one day is just MAD!!

Do Stilring then Glasgow and save edinburgh for some time you have more than 3 seconds.

What's your budget for Edinburgh accommodation?


That's my tuppence worth


canoli Aug 16th, 2004 09:38 AM

Thanks Janis and Sheila. If possible, I really don't want to spend more than 150 US dollars per night (for 2 people) in Edinburgh. We're planning on returning our rental car upon arrival, so staying close to everything would be ideal.

As far as our plans to visit Oban, is it even worth going there since we may not have the chance to go to Mull? Should we arrange our schedule and go somewhere else? We don't have arrangements with any B&B, so our day is flexible. Thurs and Fri I booked a B&B in Callander. Sat, we'll skip the drive to Edinburgh and just visit Stirling before heading to Glasgow. I just wanted my friend to have the chance to visit Edinburgh before leaving Scotland. Oh well. At least my hsuband and I will have the chance!

Any other suggestions? Am I still trying to accomplish too much?

Thanks again!
Sarah

janis Aug 16th, 2004 10:08 AM

Castle View in Ediburgh would fit your plans perfectly. It is in the very middle of the city and walking distance to everything. Well under $150 per night.

As for Oban or not -- it is really up to you. There is a lot to see in the area w/o going to Mull (but Mull is the biggest reason to go there). Kilmartin Glen w/ neolithic standing stones and burial cairns, Inveraray, Dunstaffnge castle, etc.

Or you can skip it and spend more time going up to Glencoe/Rannoch Moor/Killen.

If you had ONE more day I'd probably go to Oban, But with your very limited time I'd personally drop it.

As for your friend getting to Edinburgh -- if she really wants to see the city, she easily could. She can take the train from Stirling into the center of Edinburgh, spend the day and you could pick her up at the Stirling or Dunblane station in the evening.

canoli Aug 17th, 2004 06:51 AM

Hi Janis,
The Castle View is already booked, however, they forwarded my message to area guest houses. One that is of particualr interest is the Castle Guest House. Have you heard anything about this place? Any other's you reccomend?

janis Aug 17th, 2004 07:33 AM

That's the problem w/ Castle View - it is so good it is often booked up far ahead. Castle is a reasonable option. It is not in the fantastic location of Castle View, but it is nice and is still very walkable to most things.

canoli Aug 26th, 2004 06:14 PM

Ok everyone, I know you all are going to be excited once I leave for my trip and you don't ever have to see my threads again :) I just can't get my trip together. I don't know what my problem is.

All we want to do is see the best of Scotland in 7 days. Arriving in Prestwick at 4:30pm and leaving out of Edinburgh at 9am. Our friends leave 2 days before out of Glasgow.

I just can't plan it out. Can someone help me create an itinerary they would plan for themselves given my situation including the # of nights and where to stay in each place??

Please know that I have taken in all that has been suggested...I guess I have information overload. I never mentioned visiting Skye or Loch Ness before, but of course would love to go there too. I'm just confused!

Thanks a bunch
Sarah

janis Aug 26th, 2004 08:02 PM

OK, Sarah -- just sit down and relax w/ a glass of wine and quit obsessing :-)

First of all you have to understand you cannot possibly see "the best of Scotland in 7 days". You can only hope to scratch the surface. Not speaking for Sheila but she lives in Scotland and I dare say even she hasn't see/done it all. And I lived in the UK for 5 years and go back every year and have spent months in Scotland - and I still haven't see all of the "best" of Scotland. So from the get go understand you are only going to see a tiny fraction - and with your transport criteria that cuts it back a little bit more.

Your plan from your posts back on 8-13 are a good basis. By picking some of the suggestions from Sheila and me after that post you have a good doable route.

Forget about trying to add even more things/places.

sheila Aug 26th, 2004 10:11 PM

This is not a real problem.. honest. But it's impossible to do someone else's itinerary. Going back to your first post, I, for example, would consider Lewis to be key.

Do you want a drive through tour or a take your time tour? Do you still want 2 or 3 days in edinburgh? What must overlap with your friends?

Only you know .... the secret of the black magic box!!


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