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JNetter Mar 5th, 2006 11:01 AM

6.5 hours at Heathrow
 
Dear all, I will be traveling with my wife & our 3 girls (ages 2,4&6) from the US to Africa through Heathrow airport on a Sunday in May 27th. We have exactly 6.5 hours of transit time and were wondering if it is safe to take the Heathrow express train for some sightseeing, a short walk at the hydepark or a stroll at one of the famous streets in London. Any thing that is fun for the kids.

jjah Mar 5th, 2006 11:28 AM

Hi,

Firstly try to book your luggage on the next flight so that you don't have to carry it around, then with your carry on luggage, store it in a locker in the airport.

What time of day will you be arriving?
If you are arriving first thing in the morning, a lot of the shops will be shut. However a considerable number of attractions are open on a Sunday.
1. The London Eye is not to be missed. (just catch a cab from wherever the train drops you off - this is huge fun in itself)
2. Have a look outside the gates of Buckingham Palace, (it would be a huge shame to miss that). With luck you may see the changing of the guard. (check their website for times)
3. Harrods is amazing and whilst the crowds on a Sunday can be hideous, there is always the Toy Department to keep your kids entertained for a little while.
4. Another great toy store is Hamley's of London
5. There are several Bus tours that do not take all that long and could be very easily managed in that time period (i.e. around 4 hours by the time you get there and back). The best one is the Big Red Bus Tour Company (I think - check the internet) - one of the lines have a talking guide as opposed to headsets. The "real life' guide is FAR better.
6. Forget Hyde Park, whilst it's a lovely park, lets face it - its a park and there are zillions of them all over the world. London has far more to offer than Hyde Park!.
7. Next to the London Eye there is also the London Aquarium which the girls will love.

It is really safe, there shouldn't be anything to worry about and you should have a brilliant time.

Hope this helps.

P_M Mar 5th, 2006 11:28 AM

I think that is doable in the time you have, but another option would be to visit nearby Windsor. It's a beautiful little town, and of course, there's a rather large castle there. :-)

If you still prefer London, your kids would probably enjoy the London Eye. I believe you can book in advance, which is best for anyone with time constraints.

janisj Mar 5th, 2006 11:29 AM

I wouldn't w/ all the little ones in tow. Your 6.5 hours is really barely 3 hours when you factor in all the looooong walks at LHR just to get to arrivals/departure gates, security lines etc. After an overnight flight from the States some or all of you will be totally exhausted.

Even a short trip over to Windsor might be a bit much.

As much as I LOVE London - in this situation I would opt for a day room at a hotel near LHR.

alanRow Mar 5th, 2006 11:51 AM

You've just arrived from the US with 3 kids and expect to be able to wander round London. I suspect you may have a few problems.

If you haven't got a boarding card or if your luggage isn't checked through I wouldn't bother going into London ass ypu are going to lose too much time storing luggage at a cost of £5 per bag (BTW there are NO LOCKERS at LHR), recovering it & standing in queues to check it in.

Typically you will be arriving at 6-7am if from the US, so you have the problem that nothing major will be open before 10:00am - some don't open until noon which will seriously cramp any form of sightseeing.

In order to be able to ake your flight you need to be BACK at LHR at least an hour before hand just to get through security subject to the luggage & boarding card limitations mentioned above.

Paddington is a long way from any of the sights mentioned so it's going to be just as quick (within 10 minutes) to take the Tube into London and if it's raining you can stop at South Kensington and go to the Natural History museum. Otherwise change Tube to the District Line at somewhere like Hammersmith & travel to Westminster where Big Ben, Parlisment, the London Eye are to be found - and if the kids are up to it you can walk to Buckingham Palace through St James Park.

janisj Mar 5th, 2006 11:58 AM

Meant to add - you'll probably have at least one stroller. But even wheeling the 2 yo, the other two are still pretty small and getting three of them on and off the train/tube/buses or just walking around will be a hassle. Especially if they are jet lagged.

JNetter Mar 5th, 2006 01:00 PM

Many thanks for all these great tips. We will be ariving at 6:55 AM, our luggage should be checked all the way thru and we will have our boarding passes. We thought it will be diffuclt to manage the 2 & 4 y/o so we'll be bringing a light double stroller with us. Thanks again

janisj Mar 5th, 2006 01:09 PM

Is the stroller side-by-side or front to back? If side-by-side, you will have a bit of touble navigating the trains/tube/buses, etc. If front to back it will be a little easier.

janisj Mar 5th, 2006 01:13 PM

just a couple of other thoughts - if you take the HEX you will probably arrive at Paddington a bit after 0800 - right at the start of the morning commute. The queue for cabs at Paddington might be quite long.

The more I think about it the more Windsor sounds like a better choice. Just less hectic. But at that time of the morning nothing will be open . . . . .

alanRow Mar 5th, 2006 01:17 PM

London may think of itself as a 24x7 city, but 8:00am on a Sunday morning isn't part of it.

Oh and strollers or prams of any sort are a swine to use on the Tube - some idiots built the underground with stairs & long escalators

janisj Mar 5th, 2006 01:20 PM

Oh Shoot - I missed the "Sunday" bit. Of course there won't be any commuters to worry about. Duh!

highledge Mar 5th, 2006 01:21 PM

I'd go to Windsor. It's a cute town and the castle is right in the middle. The kids would enjoy the dollhouse and you could grab a bit to eat. You'll spend more time coming and going in London than being there

alanRow Mar 5th, 2006 01:25 PM

Windsor = LEGOLAND

alanRow Mar 5th, 2006 01:27 PM

http://www.legoland.co.uk/ - and it opens at 10:00am over the Late Spring Bank Holiday weekend (oh we didn't mention that, the Monday is a bank holiday in the UK & all the kiddies are on holiday)

ParadiseLost Mar 5th, 2006 02:09 PM

I recall reading last week about new Security procedures at LHR, which means more time.
Regards, Walter

JNetter Mar 5th, 2006 02:27 PM

Thanks again. We like Legoland but probably would be hard especially after being on a long flight. My wife has never been to London and would love to see any or some of the sightseeing. Are you aware of any tour buses that departs from Paddington station? Kind regards

Robespierre Mar 5th, 2006 02:46 PM

There is an open-top sightseeing bus called The Original Tour that stops at Baker Street, a short Tube or bus ride from Paddington. Here's their site:

http://www.theoriginaltour.co.uk

This could be a lot of fun for everyone, but you'd have to watch the clock very carefully to know when to bail out and head back. The Family ticket is £60 if purchased on line, or £72 in London.

If the logistics don't daunt you, you could get on a #15 city bus at Paddington and see just about the same thing for a very few bucks. One-day bus passes go for £3.50 (kids free). Here is a map that might give you some ideas:

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/pdfdocs/tourist.pdf

If a bus trip sounds too ambitious, you could grab a cab and ride a few minutes over to Kensington Gardens, where the Princess Diana Playground is. A little further on, in Hyde Park, is her (in)famous fountain.

nibblette Mar 5th, 2006 04:23 PM

You don't have time to go into London! You have to factor in at least 1 hr to get thru deboarding and immigration. With HEX, it will take 20 min but you will then have to change to the Tube to get to the most central parts of London. So travel time alone will be 1 hr RT.

But the bad part is the return. I just came back from the UK via Heathrow on a Sunday. The security lines are unbelievable! It took me just under an hour to get thru the security line. Sunday is also one of the less crowded days.

So if you factor in everything going perfectly, you MAY have 3 hrs IF your first plane is on time. I'd say 1.5-2 hrs is more like it given you have very young children. Given what I saw at Heathrow, I wouldn't risk it.

Lori Mar 5th, 2006 04:44 PM

Maybe I'm crazy but the last thing I'd do with 3 small children would be a rushed trip into London. Aside from Security at Heathrow being a nightmare won't everyone be rather tired out ?? When we travel from the US to the UK we are very tired by the time we get there.

If you must leave the airport why not go to an airport hotel, get a day room for 4 hrs or so and let the kids nap, shower, and kick back for a little bit. Incidentally, the Hilton is connected to Term 4 by a walkway and they do have day rooms available.

Robespierre Mar 5th, 2006 04:50 PM

Six and one-half hours.

One hour to get landed and through customs and immigration. That leaves five and one-half hours.

One-half hour to get to Paddington and back. That leaves five hours.

One hour to clear security. That leaves four hours to get from Paddington to a sight or two and back.

Naaah - don't risk it.

janisj Mar 5th, 2006 05:22 PM

Don't get lulled into thinking two 15 minute train rides in/out of London equals half an hour round trip. There is a bit of wait for the next train at both ends - plus long walks at the LHR end, shorter at the Paddington end. So count on the roundtrip transfer being anything up to an hour.

And do not discount how unwieldy a double stroller will be at LHR and Paddington, on the train, on a bus, or in a taxi.

Have any of your kids flown overnight before? It may hit them a lot more than you think. Which terminal(s) are you using at LHR?

Robespierre Mar 5th, 2006 05:54 PM

Lulled?

HX trains run every 15 minutes. Average queuing time for two trains is therefore 15 minutes. Yeah, that's going to cut deeply into your four hours.

suze Mar 5th, 2006 08:41 PM

My view isn't about timing and whether it is possible or adviseable... it's about exhaustion! The last thing I'd want to go between two long flights (myself let alone with 3 small kids) is make a mad dash around London.

I think a day room sounds perfect, maybe there's a gym or pool or activity room. Have showers and a short nap. Plus you'll want to have a decent meal in that time.

jjah Mar 5th, 2006 11:45 PM

The big question is, where are you flying from in the States? if its the East coast you shouldn't be THAT tired, despite the three little ones, who lets face it, WILL fit on the seats, curl up nicely and probably sleep better than you do. Yes you will be a little tired, but then you are getting back on a long flight and you will be able to sleep again when you get back on. However if you are coming from the west coast or somewhere in between, then I probably agree with the others, grab and room and have a sleep.

JNetter Mar 6th, 2006 05:12 AM

Thanks again for the tips. We will be coming from Washington DC so the trip should take around 7.5 hours and we'll be ariving at Terminal 3. Our following flight will be from terminal 4 on British to Alexandria, Egypt and should take around 4 hours. The last thing we want to do is to wait inside the terminal as we've been in a similar situation last summer at Frankfurt airport and it was quite hard trying to keep the kids entertained and controlled for 6 hours while waiting for our flight. An airport hotel could be a very good idea but I'm still tempted to take the small adventure and visit London.

TimS Mar 6th, 2006 05:44 AM

If you opt for Windsor rather than London, you can go by city bus directly from the airport in about 30 minutes. Or you can take a taxi.

ejkonz Mar 8th, 2006 11:30 AM

I will join others in recommending that you skip trying to see London ... last time I went thru London ... US to London to Waterloo for a train to Paris. We went through customs and immigration and immediately to the tube station for the Waterloo trip ... plane landed at 8:30 AM. When we arrived at Waterloo, it was nearly noon. We did have to pick up luggage, but that didn't take too long.

Why not relax, have a snack and enjoy some duty free shopping?

jjah Mar 11th, 2006 06:30 AM

Dear JNetter, I used to live in Maryland and would fly out of Philly or DC all the time, so I know the flight well, you will be fine. Go, have fun, yes you could be a bit stressed, but hell I have a kid and frankly you are more likely to have your head implode if you stay in the airport and try to keep them entertained. Go and wear them out. Live is short, you may never get the chance again.

samtraveler Apr 2nd, 2006 12:10 PM

You sound like seasoned travelers, but as someone who has traveled a lot with young children also I've got to say that I think you'd be nuts to do this. I speak from good experience. I flew to London with my two small children (ages 2 & 6) in February (we're still here) and cannot imagine trekking all the way to London for a couple of hours having just flown across the Atlantic, and then facing another long journey. No way! That sounds so nuts to me! I get the need to find a place for the kids to run around, get some energy out, but an excursion into London would require some more sitting still time on the train/tube and overall that just sounds miserable to me. Plus I really think you'd be constantly checking your watch the short time you'd have in London, which would really take the fun out of it for me. If you are insane enough to do this, head to Westminster Bridge, see Big Ben & Houses of Parliament, ride the Eye and there is a playground right behind the Eye so the kids can get the wiggles out. There's also places around there to grab a quick bite and souvenit stalls for those must-have "we went to London" souvenirs. I still say don't do it, but that's what I would do if you did.

Carrybean Apr 2nd, 2006 03:04 PM

I've never done it but maybe you could hire a guide to meet you at LHR & take you for a brief tour. If you're arriving on a Sunday the traffic isn't as horrendous & the driver would return you to the airport. This is one I found online to give you an idea:

http://tinyurl.com/s98qd


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