5 countries 15 days, traveling by air?

Old Aug 4th, 2013, 07:09 AM
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We're not THAT scarey...are we???
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Old Aug 4th, 2013, 09:57 AM
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Just goes to show why people post on forums. It is not because they are all altruistic in wanting to share their knowledge with others. What regular posters want is acknowledgement, approbation and yes, a chace to 'show off'. >>

you are presumably including yourself in this, improviser?
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Old Aug 4th, 2013, 12:48 PM
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Anne, nicely picked up!
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Old Aug 4th, 2013, 01:04 PM
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I've never been to London or Rome, but - I've been to Paris, and - I think you might regret only staying for 4 days (and with travel time, you'll only have 3 days to actually see/savor anything). I went for a week many years ago, and did not even begin to experience everything Paris has to offer. Paris deserves a full week.
As do the other cities on your list, probably.

Ask yourself this: Will you ever go back to Europe?

If the answer is Yes, then pick TWO cities, and stay a week in each.

If the answer is, for whatever reason, No, then stick with the plan of THREE cities in 15 days. Any more than three would probably not be enjoyable and relaxing, and you will waste a lot of precious time in train stations, airports, and hotel lobbies checking in...

Travel with the assumption that if you like a place, you will go back someday. It's really nice to be able to revisit a place and discover it all over again...

Whatever you decide, good luck and enjoy your travels.
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Old Aug 4th, 2013, 01:47 PM
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I haven't read everyone's post but let me say from experience as I am now travelling as I type...the day you leave and arrive are lost days! Don't count them as days to site see ... Trust me! We will never go anywhere again for less then 4 and will always opt for 5-7days! You won't regret the change ...if its a first then Dublin(travel to,London)Paris and Rome would be the start but I could go on ...the places I have now seen are just incredible! I would love to spend just 15days I. Spain or France or Italy alone! Good luck! One week 3places! Good luck!
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"For regular posters, this can be annoying as they feel they have wasted their time responding and get no thanks or even acknowledgement for their effort."

Although some regular posters might be annoyed if an OP doesn't return to comment, I'm satisfied that other newbies will read the comments by many above stating similar sentiments and will learn from the collective experience of seasoned travelers. I read many posts prior to travels beyond any threads when I'm the OP.
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Old Aug 4th, 2013, 09:52 PM
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Funny that someone who has been on the site for a month 'knows' so much about the history of Fodors and lectures to us on how things 'work' . . .
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Old Aug 5th, 2013, 07:42 AM
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No, I'm not including myself annhig. I know why I am here and it is not for the same reasons as yourself.

I'm here to examine the norms of this forum; shake the tree; reach some conclusions. I intend to finish doing that later this month. I'll probably post my conclusions before leaving.

For me, my time 'living' here with Fodorites in Fodorland is like spending some time living in any real physical country. I'm interested in the culture, the behavioural norms, etc.

Amwosu, while some newbies may indeed do some searching and reading of threads they think are relevant to them, the vast majority of newbies on any forum do not do so. They jump in feet first and post 'their' question. The fact that the same questions in one form or another get posted over and over again tells you that is the case.

In any forum, you will find complaints about first time posters who do not return to acknowledge responses, not just on this forum. It isn't hard to see what the motivation is behind the complaints.

Why would anyone care if someone acknowledged their comments or not if they were happy to just respond and put the info out there for anyone who wanted to find the info to find it? Regular posters in any forum post for their OWN satisfaction. To be satisfied they need acknowledgement at least. No one posts over and over again unselfishly.

I am not saying that is necessarily a bad thing. Any exchange should go both ways. That's called win/win. But an exchange that goes only one way, always leaves one party unsatisfied.

Janisj, what does how long I have participated on this forum have to do with what I do or do not know about forums in general? Are you really under the impression that this forum is unique in how it works?

This forum has some unique characteristics or at least some differences in where emphasis is put, by the originator (Fodors) through design or moderating, or by regular posters developing and imposing 'understood' norms. But it also has as many common characteristics of forums, of all kinds.

You are a prime example of a regular poster who cannot tolerate any deviation from YOUR 'understood' norms. Your constant need to attack th person who posts any 'deviant' comments clearly demonstates that.
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Old Aug 5th, 2013, 08:01 AM
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This will be really tough. It took me 5 days to cover Paris and I did the Louvre in 2 hours (just seeing what I wished to see). Rome took me 2 days and I still missed parts. Please consider paring down to only 2 capitols/countries. this way you can get the most out of your visit and have time to really see the sights you wish.
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Old Aug 5th, 2013, 08:07 AM
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We really need to have "the Collected Works of Improviser According to Him"!! It is just amazing. A LEGEND in his own mind!! LOL
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Old Aug 5th, 2013, 08:11 AM
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Now I feel as if we are under a microscope.:-B

Our every move being scrutinized by an outsider.

I do not like that.

We are a 'family' of sorts here on Fodors...sometimes dysfunctional, but a 'family' none the less.

Now I feel like we are participating in an experiment that we did not sign up for.
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Old Aug 5th, 2013, 08:16 AM
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I actually feel sorry for the OPs whose questions, with increasing regularity, are now taken over by this poster who seems to exist only to serve his own purposes. It has given a most uncomfortable feel to the forums he pounces on. Too bad.
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Old Aug 5th, 2013, 08:19 AM
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I'm here to examine the norms of this forum; shake the tree; reach some conclusions. I intend to finish doing that later this month. I'll probably post my conclusions before leaving.
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Old Aug 5th, 2013, 08:24 AM
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I am sorry that I have not posted anything for a little while, I have been reading all the posts however. I thank you all for you insights, advise and ideas! please keep them coming! I promise I will not be a hit and run poster!

No, you all are not that scary and I have not run away.

I have been playing around with travel sites and after reading a lot of the posts on here I have narrowed it down to 3 places. London, Paris and Rome. I think the next time I will do Ireland and Scotland. I am still hoping to be able to do the 15 days, but split in between those 3 cities.

I'm trying to compile a list of things that I want to do and places I want to see while in each place. I have looked into flying into London then taking the train to Paris and then flying to Rome.
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Old Aug 5th, 2013, 08:34 AM
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Rachie82: Glad you are still around

Good decision. May I suggest if you are looking for more advice/suggestions you start a new thread w/ your new ideas. This thread has seriously gone off in a ditch and your questions may get lost n the fog
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Old Aug 5th, 2013, 08:35 AM
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Agree totally, with both your new plan and the idea of starting a new thread. This one has been hijacked.
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Old Aug 5th, 2013, 08:43 AM
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Lol I think thats a good idea too! Starting a new thread now
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Old Aug 5th, 2013, 02:13 PM
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Rachie,

nice to have you back with us, the new plan sounds great.

can you post a link to the new thread so we can all find it?

thanks!
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Old Aug 5th, 2013, 04:51 PM
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annhig: Here is the link

http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...me-15-days.cfm
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Old Aug 6th, 2013, 02:04 PM
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Hey Group,
i.e. Improviser, and all. No one cares who you are or what your idiosyncrasies are, or how or why you post. If you want to have that kind of conversation go somewhere else. We are suppose to help each other and the posters who ask questions. Everyone can advise the questioner with what THEY think and the questioner is free to read them all and decide for themselves what is good advice. Stop the bickering, idiots.

Rachie: you read them all and use what you can. Ive said my piece.
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