4 Days in Switzerland with kid

Old Nov 20th, 2016, 01:31 AM
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If the weather is not good enough for the mountains you may like and I am sure your 4 year old will love Ballenbeg the open museum just outside Brienz, it's well worth a half day trip at least may be even a full day trip.
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Old Nov 20th, 2016, 07:25 AM
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You plan looks fine.
You may reach Lausanne by historic paddle steam boat (along the Lavaux vineyards): Montreux dp 13.45 and 17.09. Lausanne - Geneva: 6 trains every hr
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Old Nov 20th, 2016, 11:01 AM
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If you have a Swiss Pass the Ballenberg Museum is free with it as long as you are using a day on the pass on flexipasses that is.
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Old Nov 21st, 2016, 09:20 AM
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Ballenberg can be a sweet day trip from any Interlaken-area base -take a boat from Interlaken-Ost station to Brienz and then a postal bus to Ballenberg, lovingly overlooking Lake Brienz.

Stop off at Geissbach falls boat dock and take the antique funicular up to the famous hotel and rushing waterfall.

All covered in full by a Swiss Pass.
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Old Nov 21st, 2016, 12:14 PM
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Not sure if the year-round tobaggon run in Interlaken is OK with a parent with a 4-yr old but if so could be a treat for both.

http://www.myswitzerland.com/en-us/tin-toboggans.html
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Old Nov 21st, 2016, 01:59 PM
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Oops did not see you decided on Wengen until after my last posts.

You will not regret it- great location for excursions into higher Alps and nice walking trails. Probably too cool to enjoy the open-air municipal swimming pool (unless heated?).

Everyone here simply loves Wengen. Murren is nice too but not so neatly located and is bigger than Wengen it seems.

But I would do an excursion from Wengen - Lauterbrunnen -Murren - Schilthorn -Gimmelwald - Stechelberg - Lauterbrunnen - Wengen -sounds like a lot of transfers but all are neatly coordinated.

My favorite Jungfrau region excursion. Swiss Pass covers all but Murren to The Schilthorn -but 50% off on that.

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Old Nov 21st, 2016, 02:02 PM
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Oops did not see you decided on Wengen until after my last posts.>

Ignore that -got threads mixed up.
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Old Nov 22nd, 2016, 10:51 AM
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spend the morning in the city, take a boat ride - train to Wengen .>

could take a boat to Alpnachstad and join the Brunig Railway there to Interlaken-Ost for trains to Lauterbrunnen, changing there for Wengen.
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Old Nov 22nd, 2016, 01:28 PM
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The classic Lake Lucerne boat trip however go along the fjord-like arm to Fluelen and then take the train back, stopping off en route at say Vitznau to take the mountain railway up to Mt Rigi's summit for some of the most raved about views in Switzerland - for miles over the Alpine spiny ridge of central Switzerland and the lovely lake below.

Swiss passes fully valid on boat and Rigi railway.
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Old Nov 22nd, 2016, 11:02 PM
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Hello PalenQ,

Can you please suggest how long does the Mt. Rigi trip take ? I mean if we start around 8:30 in the morning, when can we reach Wengen after the boat trip and Rigi railway ?
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Old Nov 23rd, 2016, 02:00 AM
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Rigi with full Lake Lucerne cruise:

Lucerne dp by train 8.18 - Fluelen ar 9.15, dp by boat 9.45 - Vitznau ar 11.48, dp by cog wheel train 12.15 - Rigi Kulm ar 12.47. Dp 14.00 - railway - Vitznau ar 14.40, dp 14.49 - boat - Lucerne ar 15.47, fetch your luggage, dp 16.05 - Wengen ar 18.51.
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Old Nov 23rd, 2016, 10:11 AM
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neckervd has given the times and you do not need much time at the Rigi summit -an hour is fine to take in the sweeping views.

If you want to cut terminate boat trip at Rigi and return to Lucerne for earlier train to Interlaken-Ost.
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Old Nov 23rd, 2016, 02:11 PM
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And note that at Interlaken_Ost the train to Lauterbrunnen is part of a train also going to Grindelwald -it splits half-way up -one part trundling to Lauterbrunnen and one to Grindelwald. Be sure you look at the placard on each train car to be sure you are in the right half. I always see conductors telling folks they're in the wrong half and have to get off at Zweillutchenen (sp?) and board the right part of the train =by that time often very crowded.
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Old Nov 24th, 2016, 07:40 AM
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"If you want to cut terminate boat trip at Rigi and return to Lucerne for earlier train to Interlaken-Ost"

That wouldn't change a lot.
All by train:
Rigi Kulm dp 14.04 - Arth-Goldau 14.48/15.14 - Lucerne 15.41/16.05 - Wengen ar 18.51.

Alternatives:
Lucerne dp 8.18 - Arth-Goldau 8.46/9.10 - Rigi Kulm ar 9.47, dp 11.00 - Vitznau 11.40/11.49 - boat - Verkehrshaus 12.35/12.48 - boat - Alpnachstad 13.35/13.59 - train - Wengen ar 16.51
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Lucerne dp 8.18 - Arth-Goldau 8.46/9.10 - Rigi Kulm ar 9.47, dp 11.00 - Vitznau 11.40/11.49 - boat - Lucerne 12.47/13.05 - train - Wengen ar 15.51
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I like the alternatives neckervd gives -take train to Rigi Kulmvia Arth-Goldau and boat to Alpnachstaadt to catch train to Interlaken-easy to carry luggage on trains and boat.
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Old May 13th, 2017, 01:57 PM
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Hello all,

Thanks for all the previous help in planning the trip that is about to start in 2 weeks. Here is our final plan . Had a couple of questions and also wanted to get some input on individual tickets vs rail passes.

We are arriving to Zurich on the 27 of Ma early afternoon.
27th - Travel to Luzern stay at night .

28th morning in Luzern, boat trip, probably museum
28th afternoon take train to Wengen USD $47

29th Jungfrau trip and back to Wengen : USD$176. ( $USD 154 with Railpass. )

30th another day trip and back to Wengen ( could be Bern or some other nearby place : USD $44 ( assuming Bern)

31st morning - travel to Montruex site-seeing . Continute to Geneva in the evening . USD $80+ $36

1st June morning - Fly out of Geneva

QUESTION : Can someone suggest what is a good plan for our luggage here ? Is there a way to send our luggage from Wengen to Geneva airport station directly and pick it up when we reach there after out Montreux trip ?

QUESTION : Based on my calculation on the prices, with a 4 day Rail pass ( 28-31). I pay $264 + $154 =. $ 418 per person , where with individual ticket I pay
$383. per person. I understand I can get the boat trip in the lake and some city transportation , museum entry free with the rail pass. Also, except for the Jungfrau trip, my 4 yrs old kid travels for free with a family pass as whether we get individual tickets or a rail pass ? Did I make any mistake in my understanding. - or since we are not traveling to too many places - we don't end up saving with the pass ?

Thanks for your help.

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Old May 13th, 2017, 02:09 PM
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Also, except for the Jungfrau trip, my 4 yrs old kid travels for free with a family pass as whether we get individual tickets or a rail pass>

right -children under 16 get free ticket for whatever the adults have -a ticket or a pass.

Based on my calculation on the prices, with a 4 day Rail pass ( 28-31). I pay $264 + $154 =. $ 418 per person , where with individual ticket I pay
$383. per person>

You price in dollars - assuming you buy in U.S. -tickets bought in Europe with credit card may impose up to 3% extra. (Passes bought in U.S. have often been more than the same one in Europe -not always and I have not checked recently but do check both sources.

But if you are sure you will not take other trips then go for buying as you go. Can buy them all at once at any Swiss station.

31st morning - travel to Montruex site-seeing . Continute to Geneva in the evening . USD $80+ $36>

Is this for the Golden Pass route or the faster mainline route -GP route much more scenic and not that much longer -sit in observation cars and more comfy train? GP trains go right from Interlaken-Ost station to Montreux with a simple change of trains in Zweissimmen due to track gauge (width between tracks) changes from standard gauge to narrow gauge to Montreux due to more challenging terrain.
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Hi again swagato,

Yes, you can use the Express Flight Luggage service provided by the Swiss rail folks:

https://www.sbb.ch/en/station-servic...t-luggage.html

The service is basically overnight, but you should verify the schedule using the "Connections Express Flight Luggage" button on the right-hand side of the page. It costs 22 chf per bag.

Have fun!

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Old May 14th, 2017, 12:17 AM
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Hi Swandav, In my case I want to pick it up in Geneva itself as my flight is not on the same day. So looks like I will be using the express luggage service for 12 CHF . I confirmed this service exists between Wengen and Geneva . Thanks for pointing me to this link.


Hi PalenQ,

Looks like for my 4 yrs. old I don't need a ticket for Jungfraujoch as well . Also with a travel pass the JFJ ticket from Wengen is 132 as opposed to 154. Also now they are running a promotion on railpass for North America residents where I can get 5 days of travel with a 4 day pass, so I can include my Zurich to Luzern ticket. So with that info - individual tickets come out to be $409 and rail pass come out to be $399 . Plus I get the Lucern boat ride, museum , if I am changing my plan to do Rigi /Pilatus for free or discount at Brienzer Rothorn .. so I am getting the rail pass. I know the foreign transaction fees on credit card sucks.. luckily I have one with no foreign transaction fees .Thanks for your help.
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Well if at all close go for the pass - saves standing in line for tickets - passes in U.S. are all sold at a price pegged by Rail Europe -agents have to sell at same price - same promos, etc. For great service I always recommend Byron at www.budgeteuropetravel.com as he is an expert you can talk to and who will answer any questions - even if not buying IME. www.ricksteves.com gives away copies of his travel books I think.
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