4 days in Scotland

May 15th, 2015, 12:38 PM
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>>Looks to be 4 hrs and 20 min including ferry.<<

Never. Count on a minimum of 5 hours and 5.5 wouldn't be surprising. (take all the on-line calculators with not a pinch but a LOT of salt.) They are good for the miles but you need to add 25% to as much as 75% or 100% to the drive times.

Portree to Glencoe is easily a 4 hour drive.

I'm dashing out just now so I'll read the rest of your plan when I get home . . .
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May 15th, 2015, 01:22 PM
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Thanks Janis! I'm starting to think I should have skipped the Isle of Skye. It's so expensive right now!

Forget my idea of staying at the lovely place by the Ferry. I've just found out that what I though was a price for us both is actually per person. I'm sure it's worth every penny but way out of our league.
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May 15th, 2015, 02:22 PM
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What I was saying is that the scenery from Inverness to Skye is nicer than the scenery along Loch Lomond, especially if (as usual) your view along the A82 is of the back end of the lorry or bus that you're following.

If you took the train from London to Inverness, I'd opt for the east side of the country - via York and Edinburgh v. the west side. (Leave from Kings Cross rather than Euston.) There are some pretty bits along the North Sea in places, you can get a glimpse of York Minster and Durham Cathedral from the train. The scenery from Edinburgh to Inverness is lovely in places too.

I'm probably just a chorus of one, but I'd still recommend staying in Plockton rather than on Skye itself. Then I'd spend the whole day (Tuesday) doing a loop of the Trotternish peninsula, then back to Plockton. On Wednesday I'd look around the Sleat peninsula then take a mid-day ferry over to Mallaig, then follow the Road to the Isles back past the Glenfinnan monument (one of the most scenic places in the Highlands) and through Ft. William to Ballachulish and Glencoe. Skye is lovely to be sure, but there are a LOT of lovely places in the western Highlands.
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May 15th, 2015, 06:53 PM
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Bless your hearts. Away tomorrow but back at it Sunday. You're just the best.
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May 15th, 2015, 06:56 PM
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I'm headed up to Lake Tahoe for a few days but if they got the wifi issues fixed I should be able to check in over the weekend to see if you need any new ideas/suggestions . . .
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May 18th, 2015, 04:45 PM
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I am stuck in a state of grief after losing my mother. I thought I could do this but ... it's just too much work to be finding places and tracking this Scotland trip.

Our flight are booked with points but we can change with a change fee. Right now booked to fly to London on June 4th for the wedding on the 6th. We could leave Sunday for a few days (that whole Scotland thing was getting hugely expensive!) ... lake district London? Somewhere warm and beachy in Italy for a few days???
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May 19th, 2015, 04:22 PM
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Ok I've pulled up my argyle socks and am proceeding, thanks to your help.

Here's the plan. Train to Glasgow on Sunday June 7th. Stay at Grasshopper Hotel near train station. Shuttle to airport on Monday June 8th and pick up rental car. Thank you Janis!!!

Drive 5 hours to Plockton. Gardyloo you are brilliant. Stay at a lovely little B&B there Monday night (Seabank B&B) . Next day : well let me just copy and paste from the wonderful Gardyloo.

Then I'd spend the whole day (Tuesday) doing a loop of the Trotternish peninsula, then back to Plockton. On Wednesday I'd look around the Sleat peninsula then take a mid-day ferry over to Mallaig, then follow the Road to the Isles back past the Glenfinnan monument (one of the most scenic places in the Highlands) and through Ft. William to Ballachulish and Glencoe.

Back to me. We'd stay Wed. night in a wee annex at Loch Leven Hotel near Glencoe.

Next day, still up in the Scottish air. Through Callander Sterling etc to Edinburgh I guess to stay for Thursday and Friday nights leaving very early Saturday.

Let me know what you think! And thank you so much for your patience and your help.

Now looking for quaint and well priced (our Canadian dollar is in the tank) place for last two night in Edinburgh.

Thank you!!! And please forgive me for spelling errors. I was a broadcaster and always spelled phonetically !
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May 19th, 2015, 05:47 PM
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Oh, I'm so sorry about your Mom. It is hard - I know.

Your new plan looks terrific.

Enroute from Loch Leven to Edinburgh I'd stop at Killin/Falls of Dochart and at Inchmahome Priory. Stirling Castle is great but it is a real time hog and Edinburgh Castle is very similar both in size/aspect.

https://www.google.com/search?q=kill...ed=0CAYQ_AUoAQ

https://www.google.com/search?q=kill...hmahome+priory

This route would take about 3.5 hours drive time plus stops so about 6 hours all in. Drop the car at EDI -- very easy and then you can either take the tram into town or a cab depending on where you are staying.

What is your budget for an Edinburgh B&B?
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May 19th, 2015, 08:16 PM
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As you're leaving Glen Coe and about to cross the Rannoch Moor on the A82, turn south onto the Glen Etive road, which will take you into a marvelous, VERY remote-feeling glen just minutes off the main road.

https://goo.gl/maps/gEHxK
http://gardyloo.us/20130613_71Hs.jpg
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May 20th, 2015, 06:19 PM
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Pecking on my husbands tablet. I'm. In big trouble with PC. Too many sites open and they're all coming up black. Thank you Thank you. Janis your words are a big help and both of you are so generous I will be making note of every suggestion so keep them coming. I am so grateful!!! I might be in trouble in Edinburgh. Busy time. Made a switcheroo today as to where to stay near glencoe. Don't like this tablet!!!!
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May 21st, 2015, 06:50 AM
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Just re-reading Gardyloo's comments re 5 hour drive from Glasgow to Plockton. Is this going to be a fun and scenic drive? Will we want to stop on this route?
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May 21st, 2015, 07:00 AM
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>>Is this going to be a fun and scenic drive? <<

VERY scenic. I'd stop at Luss on Loch Lomond, and (briefly) at Eilean Donan. But not in Glencoe etc. (except for rest breaks and lunch somewhere) because you'll see then on the way back.
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May 21st, 2015, 02:24 PM
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Thank you Janis. Pretty much organized for routes, lodging and car. Found a 'quirky' place in Edinburgh. Heading out of town now for yet another funeral. Will have more questions in the coming days but feel free to say 'enough's enough'!!
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May 21st, 2015, 02:28 PM
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Gardyloo will we see much of the Rannoch Moor on that route? Your photos are amazing!! Makes it all seem real.
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May 21st, 2015, 03:06 PM
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Gardyloo will we see much of the Rannoch Moor on that route? Your photos are amazing!! Makes it all seem real.

Sure, from the side of the road.
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May 21st, 2015, 05:24 PM
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>>will we see much of the Rannoch Moor on that route?<<

yes -- and there are several turnouts
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May 29th, 2015, 04:17 AM
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A big problem has arisen. Scotland is expecting a record year for Midges and I am allergic. I've just talked to a midge specialist in Scotland and we looked at the weather forecast and the hatching would likely take place the week we would be there.

I am so disappointed. He says there are no midges on the east side. I'm going to look at taking the train to Edinburgh instead and try to shorten our stay. Maybe try to fly out of Edinburgh on Thursday. Monday a day trip to Aberdeen? Tuesday .. maybe that trip you mentioned Gardyloo to Holy Isle?? A day in Edinburgh -- and something called the neuk villages?

I've got to get this sorted out today and would appreciate any suggestions. Thanks.
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May 29th, 2015, 06:39 AM
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A day in Edinburgh -- and something called the neuk villages?

That's the East Neuk villages, several very picturesque fishing villages along the south coast of Fife just south of St. Andrews.

For example - http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.u...ail/index.html or http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.u...eem/index.html

These are a few hours' drive from Edinburgh, also available on day tours such as https://www.rabbies.com/tours_scotla...1_day_tour.asp

Regarding the midges, yes, they can be a nuisance and if your allergy to them is that threatening, then do what you have to do. However I'll say that they're usually only bad (and can be terrible) if you're actually out tromping about in the landscape, usually around sunset (which is very very late in June in Scotland) and less an issue if you're just driving during the day or standing at roadsides. There are also numerous recommendations out there for potions - Avon Skin So Soft, regular DEET insect repellent, etc.

(In Alaska they're called "no see ums" - same bug - and have been reported to cause caribou to jump into rivers and drown.)
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May 29th, 2015, 06:50 AM
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If it is windy -- no midges. If it is raining -- no midges.

Avon Skin So Soft works as a VERY effective repellant (not an urban myth -- I've been to Scotland many times and have never been bitten even once)
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May 29th, 2015, 07:51 AM
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Yikes -- poor caribou! Thanks Gardyloo. I'm very torn and frantically looking at alternatives. I react badly to the bites .. not life-threatening but nasty.

If we go ahead and change our plans, we'd take the train from London to Edinburgh a week from this Sunday. We'd probably train back to London Wed. afternoon and fly home on Thursday.

If we were to do one day-trip what would you recommend?

We'd arrive in Edinburgh at 4 or 5 pm, and have Monday and Tuesday. Train to London on Wed. (just checked and last train leaves at 10am)

Or, if I can get the flights, stay in Edinburgh on Wed. as well and fly out early Thursday. That might give us 2 small side trips.
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