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3 weeks in Europe with 20 & 22 year old "kids"

3 weeks in Europe with 20 & 22 year old "kids"

Mar 7th, 2010, 08:35 AM
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Take a look at Bavaria Ben's site - www.bensbauernhof.com
You might want to stay in a bauernhof to have a real German experience and to maybe have a chance to practice some German.

For a diversion, try a sommerrodlbahn (luge/toboggan track). If you're Rick Steve's fans, then you might have seen him doing this in 1 or 2 of his shows. (some old shows are available at www.hulu.com).

If your kids want to get away from the parents during the 3 weeks, maybe they could try a night in a hostel. If you are along the Rhine, the hostel in Bacharch is in a castle.
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Mar 7th, 2010, 09:05 AM
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I think cutting Italy out of this trip is a great idea. I also prefer only to use public transportation, not rent cars, so I agree with that decision too!
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Mar 7th, 2010, 09:44 AM
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Wow, thanks so much! Perhaps if there was a low cost stopover in London en route to Rome that might make sense. Otherwise, I think there is so much to do in London, Paris and the Rhine/Mossel area. We would really hate spending all of our time getting from point to point. Sorry not to be more specific because we're still mulling things over. We do like cities as well as natural beauty (like the national parks in the US). Hubby definitely wants to do a cruise along a river. We hope to tour a castle or two. Loved rue Clare in Paris.
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Mar 7th, 2010, 09:47 AM
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Hi Mom,

As I was reading this, I was thinking Berlin, and strangely, so were you. It's a shame to miss out Italy, but you are gonig with right way with cutting things down, not adding them in; still I woudl try to fit Venice in if you can.

were I you, I think that I'd be looking at something like this:

fly into London, stay 4 nights.

eurostar to Paris - stay 4 nights.

fly to Venice, stay 3 nights. cry as you leave.

train to Munich - stay 3 nights.

train to whereever you want to pick up your Rhine cruise. Cruise the Rhine - 3 days.

train to Berlin. stay 4 nights - that's your 21 nights, give or take.

have a great trip,

regards, ann
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Mar 7th, 2010, 12:04 PM
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The Black Forest is sounding more & more inviting, especially in connection with a SHORT river cruise. Currently, hubby & I are leaning toward cutting out Italy & sticking with London, Paris, and Black Forest/Rhine/Mossel area, possibly throwing in Amsterdam or Belgium.
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Mar 7th, 2010, 05:36 PM
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As much as I love Italy (going back for the 15th time this year!) I think it is sensible not to include it this time. The Rhine cruise is a good idea, too.
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Mar 7th, 2010, 06:18 PM
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HImom - I'm not sure what your budget for accommodations is, but London can be very expensive. We have stayed at Baden Powell House (which is hostel-like) but very nice. They offer various size rooms. You don't need to be a member of the Scouting movement to stay there. Reservations are needed. We've stayed at BP House 4 times and each has worked out well. It is in Kensington and only a block away from two tube stations.

I am looking forward to hearing about your trip - it sounds like too much fun.

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Mar 16th, 2010, 09:21 AM
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Our current plans are to fly LA to London & stay 4 nights, chunnel to Paris & stay 5 nights, Brussels for 2 nights, Bacharach for 2 nights, Rothenberg for 2 nights, Munich for 2 nights, Vienna for 4 nights & then fly from Vienna back to LA.

Any thoughts?
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Mar 16th, 2010, 03:47 PM
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hi, mom,

I'm not over-keen on 2 night stands [though they're better than one-night stands, IMHO] and I'm not sure if I'd bother to include Brussels in that itinerary. as you have a lot of cities, would you consider leaving out Brussels, and perhaps giving more time to Bacharach and Rothenberg?
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Mar 16th, 2010, 08:55 PM
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HImom - We've had a chance to stay in Bacharach three times and loved every minute of it. We stayed in the Youth Hostel (which is a restored Rhine castle (Jugenberg Stalach)). There are very nice rooms there. Let me know if you want further information on this spot. I, too, would agree with annhig about the 2 night stands - but that depends on how you value the travel experience. It is possible to do 2 day stints at various places and have wonderful success. Part of your travel experience will be the travel portion - and that is very valid. Good luck in your planning process.

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Mar 17th, 2010, 08:19 AM
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Yea, others have also nixed Brussels. Now, I'm trying to decide whether to have a 1.5 hour layover in London or a 7.5 hour layover. It will be a longish travel day, Vienna to London & then London to LAX, but it's the tail end of our journey.

Somehow, I'm nervous about the 1.5 hour layover but 7.5 seems SO long & the flight leaves SO early! Called Air New Zealand & they say it is a connection they book, but I was thinking of saving $300 & booking the reservation on Orbitz.

Thoughts?
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Mar 17th, 2010, 07:24 PM
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OK, have bought the ticket with 7.5 hour layover (risk adverse) & will pay for all of us to go to the lounge in LHR to nap or let the kids have one last visit to London before we fly back to CA.

We will probably stick with London for 4-5 nights, Paris for 4-5 nights, and then 2-3 nights in Bacarach, Rothenberg, Munich and 4-5 nights in Venice.

S is now more cheerful, since he realized D will be "legal" to drink in Europe, so they may "ditch us" at some point to find other young folks. Hmmmm. They're reading up on the Rick Steve's book now, during their Spring Break.
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Mar 18th, 2010, 01:23 PM
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S is now more cheerful, since he realized D will be "legal" to drink in Europe, so they may "ditch us" at some point to find other young folks. Hmmmm. They're reading up on the Rick Steve's book now, during their Spring Break.>>

mom - at their ages, it would worry me if they didn't.

have a great trip,

regards, ann
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Mar 20th, 2010, 02:03 AM
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D's boss recently returned from a great trip to many of the places we plan to see, so I think she'll be chatting him up for ideas on what to see & do. They seem to get along well. They've been traveling quite a bit together--they went on a tour for a month in Taiwan the other summer & this spring break, they drove LA to SF & are now in San Simeon, touring Hearst Castle & camping en route back to LA. I'm so glad they're enjoying this time together before S starts his full-time job!
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