1st time in Paris in September-3.5 day Intinerary?
Aug 7th, 2017, 05:27 AM
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1st time in Paris in September-3.5 day Intinerary?
Hello,
I am going to Paris the first week of September for the 1st time with 2 friends. I have a rough itinerary so far and would appreciate any suggestions for first timers or on the itinerary! (must sees and don'ts and if the order makes sense?). Thank you!
Day 1- Monday
-Afternoon-Arrive in Paris, check into Airbnb and freshen up (staying in 3 arr)
-Lunch-Maybe around Le Marais?
-Arc de Triomphe
-Champs Elysées
-Jardins du Trocadéro
-Picnic in front of Eiffel Tower?
Day 2- Tuesday
-Louvre
-Le Palais Royale
-Tuileries Gardens
-Pont des Arts
-Lunch in Saint-Germain
-Explore Saint-Germain-des-Prés
-Jardin du Luxembourg
-Pantheon
Day 3- Wednesday
-île de la Cité walk:
-Notre Dame Cathedral
-Sainte-Chapelle
-Conciergerie?
-Explore Latin Quarter
-Shop?
-Option to go to Louvre (open on Wed from 9 am-9:45 pm)
-Moulin Rouge?
Day 4- Thursday
-Sunrise pics at Eiffel Tower?
-Musée D’Orsay
-Explore Montmartre
-Sacré Couer basilica
-Explore Marais and shop
-Place des Vosges
-Evening: walk along Seine or sunset boat cruise (Bateaux Parisiens)?
I am going to Paris the first week of September for the 1st time with 2 friends. I have a rough itinerary so far and would appreciate any suggestions for first timers or on the itinerary! (must sees and don'ts and if the order makes sense?). Thank you!
Day 1- Monday
-Afternoon-Arrive in Paris, check into Airbnb and freshen up (staying in 3 arr)
-Lunch-Maybe around Le Marais?
-Arc de Triomphe
-Champs Elysées
-Jardins du Trocadéro
-Picnic in front of Eiffel Tower?
Day 2- Tuesday
-Louvre
-Le Palais Royale
-Tuileries Gardens
-Pont des Arts
-Lunch in Saint-Germain
-Explore Saint-Germain-des-Prés
-Jardin du Luxembourg
-Pantheon
Day 3- Wednesday
-île de la Cité walk:
-Notre Dame Cathedral
-Sainte-Chapelle
-Conciergerie?
-Explore Latin Quarter
-Shop?
-Option to go to Louvre (open on Wed from 9 am-9:45 pm)
-Moulin Rouge?
Day 4- Thursday
-Sunrise pics at Eiffel Tower?
-Musée D’Orsay
-Explore Montmartre
-Sacré Couer basilica
-Explore Marais and shop
-Place des Vosges
-Evening: walk along Seine or sunset boat cruise (Bateaux Parisiens)?
Aug 7th, 2017, 07:10 AM
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>>> Afternoon-Arrive in Paris, check into Airbnb and freshen up
>>> Lunch-Maybe around Le Marais?
Have you actually worked through the timing? Are you referring to "lunch" with respect to your body clock instead of local lunch time? If you are really arriving in Paris in the afternoon, you would not be having your first meal until late afternoon.
>>> Friday
-Explore Marais and shop
-Place des Vosges
Depending on where in the 3rd you are staying, these two items can be trivially added/eliminated from your first day. île de la Cité or île Saint-Louis with Seine walk may also be added/eliminated.
>>> Lunch-Maybe around Le Marais?
Have you actually worked through the timing? Are you referring to "lunch" with respect to your body clock instead of local lunch time? If you are really arriving in Paris in the afternoon, you would not be having your first meal until late afternoon.
>>> Friday
-Explore Marais and shop
-Place des Vosges
Depending on where in the 3rd you are staying, these two items can be trivially added/eliminated from your first day. île de la Cité or île Saint-Louis with Seine walk may also be added/eliminated.
Aug 7th, 2017, 08:35 AM
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When are you actually arriving and where CDG, Orly or by train? If you are arriving in the afternoon it would be pretty difficult to settle in to your airbnb (which is almost 100% certainly an illegal rental) and have lunch after.
Your day 4 is very rushed and you are hopping all over the city. But as greg says -- you may not need to include the Marais and Place des Vosges since you'll likely be in that area at least some every day (depending on where you are staying in the 3rd). Sunrise is at 7AM so you'd want to be there earlier -- and then you'll have until 9:30 before the Musée d'Orsay opens.
Your day 4 is very rushed and you are hopping all over the city. But as greg says -- you may not need to include the Marais and Place des Vosges since you'll likely be in that area at least some every day (depending on where you are staying in the 3rd). Sunrise is at 7AM so you'd want to be there earlier -- and then you'll have until 9:30 before the Musée d'Orsay opens.
Aug 8th, 2017, 11:08 AM
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Do you have ANY data to back this up? 99%!>
You just make this up - seriously when saying such a thing please provide some documented support- you may be right though it sounds like exaggeration - it is important to give folks a factual statement as it may wrongly turn them off such rentals (or rightly too)
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airbnb (which is almost 100% certainly an illegal rental>
airbnb has entered an accord with Paris officials who list legal rents on their web site some Parisians have said - again do you have any proof to support this.
Serious allegations need serious proof - if wrong a disservice to folks like OP.
You just make this up - seriously when saying such a thing please provide some documented support- you may be right though it sounds like exaggeration - it is important to give folks a factual statement as it may wrongly turn them off such rentals (or rightly too)
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airbnb (which is almost 100% certainly an illegal rental>
airbnb has entered an accord with Paris officials who list legal rents on their web site some Parisians have said - again do you have any proof to support this.
Serious allegations need serious proof - if wrong a disservice to folks like OP.
Aug 8th, 2017, 11:21 AM
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https://www.ft.com/content/6f774046-...5-b8b81dd5d080
Financial Times says 60-70% of short term lets including airbnb contravene existing laws - that's a lot but not nearly 99-100% - 30-40% thus are legal it seems.
It is the owner breaking the law and not the user so there is little risk for the consumer - some folks just cannot stand high hotel prices and airbnb types may let them afford Paris.
That said I sympathize with residents over complaints that such lets are raising housing values and turning flats into hotels with noise, etc.
Financial Times says 60-70% of short term lets including airbnb contravene existing laws - that's a lot but not nearly 99-100% - 30-40% thus are legal it seems.
It is the owner breaking the law and not the user so there is little risk for the consumer - some folks just cannot stand high hotel prices and airbnb types may let them afford Paris.
That said I sympathize with residents over complaints that such lets are raising housing values and turning flats into hotels with noise, etc.
Aug 8th, 2017, 12:00 PM
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>>airbnb has entered an accord with Paris officials who list legal rents on their web site some Parisians have said - again do you have any proof to support this.<<
PQ: airbnb has entered into an agreement re the tax paid - not that the rentals are legal. There have been scores of threads about this and I KNOW you have read them so why the 'surprise'.
From another thread: <blue>In an announcement today by the city of Paris, the French government has officially adopted a program requiring vacation rental apartments in Paris be registered beginning 1 October 2017. The registration number will be required in all on line promotions or offers:
https://www.paris.fr/actualites/decl...uristique-5007
The government estimates that at least 20,000 apartments which were, at one time, rented by residents of the city, have been converted to vacation rentals for tourists. All apartments offered as of 1 December 2017 must display the required registration number.
Explained separately, owners failing to register their apartments will be subject to fines of as much as 50 000€ per illegal rental.
The registration numbers should offer much needed clarity to those wanting to rent apartments in the city of Paris.
PQ: airbnb has entered into an agreement re the tax paid - not that the rentals are legal. There have been scores of threads about this and I KNOW you have read them so why the 'surprise'.
From another thread: <blue>In an announcement today by the city of Paris, the French government has officially adopted a program requiring vacation rental apartments in Paris be registered beginning 1 October 2017. The registration number will be required in all on line promotions or offers:
https://www.paris.fr/actualites/decl...uristique-5007
The government estimates that at least 20,000 apartments which were, at one time, rented by residents of the city, have been converted to vacation rentals for tourists. All apartments offered as of 1 December 2017 must display the required registration number.
Explained separately, owners failing to register their apartments will be subject to fines of as much as 50 000€ per illegal rental.
The registration numbers should offer much needed clarity to those wanting to rent apartments in the city of Paris.
Aug 8th, 2017, 12:21 PM
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Where is the facts behind your 99% and 100% being illegal? I see none above. But OK - 60-70% are illegal now says Financial Times - I guess they are wrong?
Enough said - buyer not beware anyway because as you said the buyer is not breaking the law.
After Dec 2017 it will be clear who is in violation and who not -right now who knows but I'll take the 60-70 being in violation not 100% unless you can back that up which I doubt.
Enough said - buyer not beware anyway because as you said the buyer is not breaking the law.
After Dec 2017 it will be clear who is in violation and who not -right now who knows but I'll take the 60-70 being in violation not 100% unless you can back that up which I doubt.
Aug 9th, 2017, 02:06 PM
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-Picnic in front of Eiffel Tower?>
Not right in front - area fenced off for security I read and always was crowded - but a smashsingly nice place to picnic in relaxed style is across the Seine on the terraces in front of the Trocadero - nice chairs to sit in and look straight across to Eiffel - better view than near it.
Not right in front - area fenced off for security I read and always was crowded - but a smashsingly nice place to picnic in relaxed style is across the Seine on the terraces in front of the Trocadero - nice chairs to sit in and look straight across to Eiffel - better view than near it.
Aug 9th, 2017, 04:06 PM
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Arc de Triomphe is nice. Champs Elysee is too touristy. The Marias is great to walk around for dinner Les Bougresses on rue jarente is a nice choice. Thursday morning go and check out the Bastille Market also known as Richard Lenoir Market. It's always great to bring charcuterie/cheese/ wine back and chill at night or at least early evening. Check out Le Baron Rouge wine bar near Aligre Market metro Ledru Rollin. If you are going up the Eiffel Tower go when they open then walk down to the Seine and take the Batobus and get off at Notre Dame. Saint Chappelle is really nice especially when it's sunny the stained glass windows are awesome. A nice picnic can be had at Parc Bagatelle get off at La Defense and then take a real short bus ride #1 line
BHV Le Marais has great shopping and a rooftop bar. Lunch on top of Printemps is nice food isn't anything special but the view is great. I have other suggestions if you want them
BHV Le Marais has great shopping and a rooftop bar. Lunch on top of Printemps is nice food isn't anything special but the view is great. I have other suggestions if you want them
Aug 9th, 2017, 04:10 PM
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This should help
http://www.geobeats.com/video/bb3931/rue-montorgueil
http://www.geobeats.com/video/bb3931/rue-montorgueil
Aug 9th, 2017, 05:01 PM
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If your idea of a picnic is sitting on a bench affixed to concrete, than the Trocadero is the place.
If you want to spread out on a lawn then the Champ de Mars is the place. You don't need to be on top of the tower to gaze at it.
As an aside, the best view of the tower, imo is from the Trocadero; but not necessarily the best place for a picnic.
If you want to spread out on a lawn then the Champ de Mars is the place. You don't need to be on top of the tower to gaze at it.
As an aside, the best view of the tower, imo is from the Trocadero; but not necessarily the best place for a picnic.
Aug 10th, 2017, 05:55 AM
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Do the night boat cruise your first night. It really sets the scene for Paris at night, and gives you a good idea of the layout of the city. Agree with St. Cirq that Les Vedettes (leave from the north tip of Ile de la Cite)are great, and you can make an open reservation online:
http://www.vedettesdupontneuf.com/home/
We had lots of picnics on benches, one was right on one of the bridges, with a sax player a couple of benches away. Lots of music on the various bridges and walkways along the Seine. Enjoy!
http://www.vedettesdupontneuf.com/home/
We had lots of picnics on benches, one was right on one of the bridges, with a sax player a couple of benches away. Lots of music on the various bridges and walkways along the Seine. Enjoy!
Aug 10th, 2017, 06:38 AM
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Take the meals out of your itinerary ideas. They might turn out to be sandwiches from a boulangerie or snacks and drinks bought at any sort of stand along the way. So such ideas can last from 3 to 15 minutes, unlike real meals that can easily take 90 minutes of your time.
Not really entering the Airbnb debate at this time, but I read that France and Germany are planning a major coordinated action about the subject in September. Keep an eye on that.
Not really entering the Airbnb debate at this time, but I read that France and Germany are planning a major coordinated action about the subject in September. Keep an eye on that.
