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15 days Paris/Amsterdam/Italy itinerary... need help/advice.

15 days Paris/Amsterdam/Italy itinerary... need help/advice.

Jan 18th, 2013, 09:08 AM
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I would not avoid the Cinque Terre in May as that would IMO be a wondrous time there - nice weather - never heard of a lot of rain in May any more than any other place here and you have the towns to yourself practically as the summer tourist hoards have not yet come - indeed IMO a time to avoid the 5 Terre is in summer when the small towns are literally often elbow to elbow with tourists.

Of course if it is raining there is not much to do but what are the chances of rain in May - maybe much more than I think, having been in the area a few Mays - 5 Terre are so so unique and in still non hectic season I'd go for it.
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Jan 18th, 2013, 11:06 AM
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PQ: I believe you are the only one posting who fits the description >>elderly Fodorgarch<<

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Jan 18th, 2013, 11:19 AM
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I was basing my "miss it" on travelling there in early May and how congested her schedule was. The last 1-2 weeks of May are stunning and worth a trip when you have a few days to devote to this breathtaking region. But, given a schedule of only 15 days and all those cities, I'm not sure where CT fits into her itinerary and what kind of time she could devote to CT. It'll take a half or full day of traveling to get there, then another half or full day travelling out. Don't quote me on the specifics, but one trip I left Florence by train, had a transfer and 2 hour layover in Pisa (which allowed me to literally run to the Leaning Tower with my luggage rolling behind me), then I ran back and think I got on a train to La Spezia or Genova, and then transferred again to the little regional train that goes through the CT. It was a long day of travel, but then after that I devoted several days of relaxation to the CT. If the OP arrived in CT after all that travel, she may only arrive in one of the villages with enough time to grab dinner and see a sunset, then maybe the next morning a quick stroll on the easiest of trails before she is required to check out by 11 am, assuming she would want to be back on the road for her next destination. If that is really all the OP wants to experience from this trip to the CT, then it could work. Sometimes just arriving in a destination for just a few hours can give someone the feel of a place. For others, it might seem like an awful lot of effort and the experiences perhaps not as enchanting.

The good news is that, if she really just wants to "see" all those places she can probably choreograph all the train connections and layovers with the wonders of the internet. Fifteen years ago we had an old fashioned paper rail schedule that came with our rail pass.

Just pack lightly, bring a good pair of running shoes, and a smart phone.
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Jan 19th, 2013, 08:15 AM
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Thank you for all your time spent helping me here, really appreciated.

We will cut down 1 or max 2 cities, eve though I know still a rushed itinerary, but like what Maccabee said " decide what is must see, which cities for relax and chill out and cities which short on time, schedule one guided tour.
I believe with this combination will made our trip more adventure and memorable.

Maccabee… Wish you have a wonderful and safe trip

Jblois - Actually I thought before to join Contiki, but this program is not so popular in Asia, thus not dare to take it as safetly concern.

PalenQ ….. The "seat 61" website is really cool. Is help a lots.

Mbolggs….thank for the question " Are you interested in taking a quick look with a definite view to returning later?" It is worth pondering.

Arghh…..we are really in a pickle…. Now I am fighting with my friend, she would like to cut down Amsterdam but I said Milan & Pisa. Hope we could achieve kind of mutual agreement.

As for London,I have checked the penalty is EURO 250 if changed my flight out from London instead of Paris. It is not worth it.

Doryyoung, Skatterfly……London is a place to remember him. Revisiting London equivalent revisiting pain. Not aimlessly, but with a purpose. No without hope, but with peace and sweet memory.

cheers, lingie
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Jan 20th, 2013, 08:20 AM
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Ling_ie, hope you have a wonderful and safe trip too!

Sorry to hear you and your friend are fighting about the itinerary. Maybe you can compromise by splitting up for a few days? You can stay in Amsterdam while she goes first to Milan and Pisa, and then you can meet her in Rome? Then you two can do Florence, Venice and Cinque Terre together before heading up to Paris.

Also, if you are taking the Eurostar from Paris to London, try to book as early as possible. I learnt an expensive lesson today when I waited a bit too long to buy my Eurostar tickets. Two weeks ago, the prices were relatively okay, so I thought I'd wait for January's salary to come in first. When I went to book the tickets online today, I saw the fares have jumped up by at least £20, so book as early as you can since you're very sure you're going to London!

All the best for your trip!
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Jan 20th, 2013, 08:55 AM
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Yes on Chunnel trains London to Paris the early bird doth get the worm - act as soon as you know when you want to go and the fare comes on the system - but note the cheaper tickets are non-refundable nor changeable so be sure of your date and time.

www.eurostar.com is the site and is easy to work - an e-ticket I believe and the cheaper seats IME are more available on the slacker days of the week - Tues, Wed and Thurs so planning an escape from London on those days could be better availability of discounted and limited in number tickets than on busier weekend time days.
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Jan 20th, 2013, 03:33 PM
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Actually I thought before to join Contiki, but this program is not so popular in Asia, thus not dare to take it as safetly concern.>

Safety a concern with Contiki Tours - surprised you think that - Contiki are one of the most reputable tour groups for younger folk - say early 30s and under. I have seen their groups many places and I would say they are very safe - I think that is a serious misunderstanding and they do have a significant number of Asians on their tours - Asian Americans - anyway any company owned by a large Swiss bank can't be that bad!
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Jan 20th, 2013, 03:52 PM
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Ling_ie: From your posts I seriously don't think Contiki would be a good fit for you. Not because of safety - they are as safe as most any tour company.

And yes - lots of Americans take them. But not that many from more conservative Asian countries. Contiki tour customers are mostly young people who what to party and be a little bit wild.
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