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charmcity Feb 4th, 2010 09:39 AM

Watch on the Rhine: Uniworld v. Avalon
 
My wife and I, both about 60, wish to take a September river cruise and are weighing Uniworld's "Castles Along the Rhine" on its River Ambassador vs. Avalon's "Romantic Rhine" on either Felicity or Luminary. They both go Amsterdam-Basel and have most of the same port stops. Could you, especially if you have experienced both lines, compare them on:
--Dining (we like sophisticated food and a quiet atmosphere)
--Shore excursions (we like a mix of guided and free time and beauty rather than shopping)
--Service
--Ship feel (cabin size is less important than entire ship's decor and graciousness)
--Value for the money

Of course, if anyone thinks another line is superior to either of these, we're open to suggestion.

Thanks!

sueswny Feb 5th, 2010 01:32 PM

The river Ambassador is older ship,but refurbished a few years ago. The Avalon ships are new, and so maybe nicer decor? I haven't sailed on Avalon, but some friends tell me that Avalon doesn't offer as much included as Uniworld or AMA Waterways. AMA Waterways is my overall favorite--I've been on them several times and never disappointed. Check the AMA Rhine cruise.

cruisefan10 Feb 5th, 2010 04:08 PM

Uniworld's cruise is less expensive. Uniworld offers a winetasting in Castle Vollrads, exclusively offered by Uniworld. Uniworld will have a full day at Alsatian wine-road (Avalon does not offer this). Uniworld won top dining and top cabins by Zagat Cruise Survey and only river cruise company in this survey.

marg Feb 13th, 2010 09:24 PM

We've done cruises with Uniworld and Avalon and thought the Avalon boat was much nicer. We paid extra for a cabin with a french balcony and were really glad that we had done so. The cabins on the lower level had permanently closed windows and at times the water was mid-way up the glass.

Food was similar. Wine or beer with dinner was free with Avalon (may be free with Uniworld now). There is one sitting for lunch and dinner so you may not get the quiet atmosphere you want, but we found that by sitting at different tables each day, it was a pleasant way to make new friends from other countries.

We thought the mix of organised sightseeing and free time was good, particularly with Avalon.

In short, we would book Avalon for our next cruise.

charli Feb 16th, 2010 04:37 PM

Marg... "...at times the water was mid-way up the glass" -
How could that possibly be? Waves splashing?? Sinking???
Sorry, but I am trying to imagine what you mean. I have been on the lower level and the water never came anywhere near the level of the windows.

marg Feb 21st, 2010 08:16 PM

No, the boat wasn't sinking. Some of the bridges were very low and the boat was designed to take water into the ballast tanks which then means that the boat gets lower in the water and consequently can pass under the bridge. For cabins on the lowest level, that means that the water level sometimes came half-way up the window. One passenger complained about something unpleasant floating outside her window.


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