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Bedar Jun 5th, 2012 10:07 AM

Non-swimming cruisers
 
I have a friend who is cruise crazy and has taken many cruises. I just found out that she can't swim !!! Do the cruise lines allow passengers with this disability ? Do they perhaps have them sign a waiver of responsibility before they are accepted as passengers ? I know my friend would undoubtedly hide her situation as would others. Well, there's yet another reason I would never take one of these trips. I certainly wouldn't want to be on a ship with non-swimmers !

beanweb24 Jun 5th, 2012 10:19 AM

Not being able to swim is not a disability.

Swimming is not a pre requisite for cruising. Swimming is not even a pre-requisite for snorkeling! There are life vests on board the ship.

Even swimmers will panic in the EXTREMELY unlikely event that something happens to the ship that requires people to disembark in an emergency situation.

Not sure what you think is going to happen to you if you're on a cruise and non-swimmers are on board. There are plenty of other logical reasons to avoid cruising...this one seems pretty overly dramatic.

Sassafrass Jun 5th, 2012 02:04 PM

Perhaps this is a serious question, but it is pretty funny to me.

People are not fish, so fortunately, not being able to swim is not considered a disability by anyone I know. In case of a real problem, even a great swimmer might not fare well without a life jacket. Your friend has taken many cruises and is still here to talk about about them. DH can swim the length of a pool several times. I can make it once. The only downside to that, as far as cruising, is we don't enjoy the beaches we visit or the pools on board as much as we might if we were good swimmers. Oh well, the hot tubs are still enticing.

Even though you don't see many people in wheelchairs, cruising is a good option because they can rest as needed and still visit places they might not be able to see by train or bus. Same reason older people cruise. Cruising doesn't require athletic fitness.

Just curious. Do you think you would be called on to rescue non-swimmers? If not, how would it affect you?

Think about it this way. No one that I know of has been able to fly. Yet, most of us travel by plane with no requirement that we be able to fly like birds.

Dayenu Jun 5th, 2012 02:29 PM

LOL this must be a troll!

Yes, you have to sign a waiver first, so you can sue the company for discriminating non-swimmers later.

You must also sign a waiver if you are a vegetarian.

((6))

Lee77 Jun 5th, 2012 03:04 PM

I can't swim. My husband can swim so he had to sign a waiver he would save me. I think the swimmer is only allowed to save 1 person. Check the fine print.

jacketwatch Jun 5th, 2012 04:39 PM

I agree with D!

jacketwatch Jun 5th, 2012 04:40 PM

And at least it's not boring. :D

dogster Jun 6th, 2012 12:19 AM

Bedar is a long-respected member of Fodor's. Her last post about 'foie gras d'oie - not canard' was a thrilling exploration into the nether-world of duck-stuffing.

How any of you could think of her being a troll is quite beyond me.

I intend to keep this post top of the list forever. For some reason I find it kinda liberating.

Sassafrass Jun 6th, 2012 02:12 AM

OK, Dogster, is it liberating because
1. You can swim and feel safer and freer than all the non-swimmers.
2. You don't have to rescue non-swimmers.
3. You can't swim; now some posters may avoid traveling with you if they learn of your disability. Might be a good thing - for you.
2. You can swim, so think you might also be able to fly. That could be liberating - for a very short time anyway.
5. You can't swim, and knowing that would free you up to just relax in case of an accident.
There must be more, or one that applies to you. Please share it.

Marija Jun 6th, 2012 09:57 AM

Seems that elementary counting skills are also not required of cruisers.

Dayenu Jun 6th, 2012 10:03 AM

jacketwatchon Jun 5, 12 at 5:39pm
I agree with D!

Would you dare not to?
((6))

jacketwatch Jun 6th, 2012 10:15 AM

Thats why I luv you. :S-

Sassafrass Jun 6th, 2012 01:02 PM

Nope, can't count, make typos sometimes that I accidently post before correcting, can't swim, can't fly, just cruisin' along in ignorant bliss. . . .

jacketwatch Jun 6th, 2012 02:23 PM

That's why I luv you too Sass. :D

Dayenu Jun 6th, 2012 03:03 PM

Cruisers who can't swim must wear "little swimmers" :D

Sassafrass Jun 6th, 2012 07:36 PM

Jacket, you are the best!

jacketwatch Jun 7th, 2012 03:08 AM

Thanks hun. :-) Just don't tell the dogster. It might make him jealous. :D

dogster Jun 7th, 2012 03:38 AM

I only have eyes for Bedar.

Anybody who cares about water-safety is fine by me. I am a non-swimmer, too. Without Bedar, I would never have realised the risk.

No more cruises for me, I guess.

jacketwatch Jun 7th, 2012 10:57 AM

Well bedar there it is. The dogster has bared his soul to you. :D

Bedar Jun 7th, 2012 04:11 PM

Oh, Dogster, I'll go on a cruise with you. As you know, my requirements are oysters and foie gras as is a kennel for my new Bichon called Bubba. Guess it'll have to be a transatlantic one on Cunard. Don't worry. You'll be safe with me. In my youth I was a swimming instructor and a lifeguard. And, that was what my post was about - safety ! I do hope those non-swimmers will make sure their children or grandchildren learn to swim. It, along with vaccinations, learning to read, write, and do arithmetic, is the most important acquisition a child can make.
By the way, I have another friend, a Southern Belle, who is also disabled. This one can't drive ! But, that's another story.

fmpden Jun 9th, 2012 02:42 PM

They say there are no dumb question. This one is awfully close. If the ship does down, being able to swim is about the last thing you will want to do.

Sassafrass Jun 9th, 2012 07:15 PM

The most imortant (to me at least) thing I was taught as a child was to play the piano. On most cruise ships, there is a piano in a practice room, the chapel or some other out of the way place and I play even on cruises.

Jerry Lee Lewis, who was told he was playing music of the devil and was going to hell, replied, "Well, if I'm goin' to Hell, I'm goin' playin' the piano." So, if I knew I was going to drown, I'd love to be able to say, "If I'm going down, I going down playing the piano." Bedar, I do hope you think that is funny.

Dogster, who do you really want to cruise with - a serious, concerned worrier or somebody who will be making music right to the end? Granted, Bedar could rescue you in an emergency, but in the mean time. . . How safe do you really want to be? Bet you never figured on this - two Fodorites vying for the Dogster.

Bedar Jun 11th, 2012 10:49 AM

Sassafras - I like your idea of playing the piano ! It reminds me of:-

Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Dylan Thomas


Jerry Lee Lewis might be good for that.

Sassafrass Jun 11th, 2012 01:40 PM

Thanks, Bedar. That was kind of you. I never thought about that quote in quite the same way before. If it came right down to it, I might not be so courageous. I would probably be wishing I'd had those swimming lessons. LOL


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