Looking for a cruise ship for elites but without breaking the budget
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:14 AM
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Looking for a cruise ship for elites but without breaking the budget
Last time I went on a cruise the ship was filled with mostly blue collar- working class types. I never had seen so many tattos, pot bellies and rough faces indicating a lifetime of hard living.
I am interested in going on a cruise with lots of white collar professionals. People with education, professional polish, who carry on intelligent conversation, etc.
From a snobby want to be elite!
I am interested in going on a cruise with lots of white collar professionals. People with education, professional polish, who carry on intelligent conversation, etc.
From a snobby want to be elite!
Nov 7th, 2003, 06:21 AM
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Well your first step in order to be
accepted by the upper class is
a show of intelligence.
To that end you might want to do
a search on this & other websites.
also keep in mind once you select
a cruise to your liking your comportment,
diction, interests on board
(i.e. classical music vs bingo) and attire
should be above reproach
and
in tandem w/the elite.
accepted by the upper class is
a show of intelligence.
To that end you might want to do
a search on this & other websites.
also keep in mind once you select
a cruise to your liking your comportment,
diction, interests on board
(i.e. classical music vs bingo) and attire
should be above reproach
and
in tandem w/the elite.
Nov 7th, 2003, 08:54 AM
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Windstar is definitely upscale without the snobbiness....lots of professionals- opean seating dining..small ships and great ports.....
It is one of my favorite lines as hubs does NOT need a jacket nor tux--yet it is upscale...
Totally different than Crystal, Silversea or Seabourn...
I have no idea which line you went on with " all the blue collar people"...perhaps Carnival???
For regular cruise lines, we have done Celebrity-- as far as mostly filled with blue collar--Not in the least...It was a good mix of people- both blue and white collar...all of which got along just fine....
It is one of my favorite lines as hubs does NOT need a jacket nor tux--yet it is upscale...
Totally different than Crystal, Silversea or Seabourn...
I have no idea which line you went on with " all the blue collar people"...perhaps Carnival???
For regular cruise lines, we have done Celebrity-- as far as mostly filled with blue collar--Not in the least...It was a good mix of people- both blue and white collar...all of which got along just fine....
Nov 7th, 2003, 10:22 AM
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Maybe some clarification is in order.
Yes, my last cruise was on Carnival. Yes, most people were working class blue collar people. Were they bad people, no, were the people I met my cup of tea: No!
If you have a Masters Degree and make $100,000 working in an executive position, it is unlikely that you share much in common with the casier at Albertsons Grocery Store.
What is the cruiseline of choice of the white collar professionals?
Yes, my last cruise was on Carnival. Yes, most people were working class blue collar people. Were they bad people, no, were the people I met my cup of tea: No!
If you have a Masters Degree and make $100,000 working in an executive position, it is unlikely that you share much in common with the casier at Albertsons Grocery Store.
What is the cruiseline of choice of the white collar professionals?
Nov 7th, 2003, 10:52 AM
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I don't think it's that hard to find something in common with different types of people, if you focus on what you might have in common, rather than what makes you different.
We love to ski, and can talk about skiing with anyone who skis, nothing else about them matters.
The Harley-Davidson 100th aniiversary celebration was here in Milwaukee this year, and there were amazingly different people having a wonderful time together.
Family relationships, sports, music, TV, movies--none of those are dependent on income.
On a cruise, you at least have in common the selection of that cruise, and that provides lots of opportunities for conversation. Why'd you pick this cruise? What are you going to do in port? What other trips have you taken? etc etc
We love to ski, and can talk about skiing with anyone who skis, nothing else about them matters.
The Harley-Davidson 100th aniiversary celebration was here in Milwaukee this year, and there were amazingly different people having a wonderful time together.
Family relationships, sports, music, TV, movies--none of those are dependent on income.
On a cruise, you at least have in common the selection of that cruise, and that provides lots of opportunities for conversation. Why'd you pick this cruise? What are you going to do in port? What other trips have you taken? etc etc
Nov 7th, 2003, 11:56 AM
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travelerquestion: You say you are interested in going on a cruise with lots of white collar professionals. People with education, professional polish, who carry on intelligent conversation, etc.
Later you say that if you have a Masters Degree and make $100,000 working in an executive position, it is unlikely that you share much in common with the cashier at Albertsons Grocery Store.
As a person with a Ph.D. and making more than $100,000 I find your observations of others rude and offensive. I have no trouble at all finding things in common with people who work in grocery stores or those with "rough faces indicating a lifetime of hard work". They too have children that they love, families that they care for, trials they must face and budgets they must live within, just like you (your post says you dont want to break the budget).
I doubt you'll find happiness with a white collar group, or any other for that matter if you look down on others the way you do.
Instead of looking for a higher class of people to associate with, you may wish to ask yourself why you think you are higher in life than they are and why you find it appealing to aspire to be a "snobby want to be elite"
Later you say that if you have a Masters Degree and make $100,000 working in an executive position, it is unlikely that you share much in common with the cashier at Albertsons Grocery Store.
As a person with a Ph.D. and making more than $100,000 I find your observations of others rude and offensive. I have no trouble at all finding things in common with people who work in grocery stores or those with "rough faces indicating a lifetime of hard work". They too have children that they love, families that they care for, trials they must face and budgets they must live within, just like you (your post says you dont want to break the budget).
I doubt you'll find happiness with a white collar group, or any other for that matter if you look down on others the way you do.
Instead of looking for a higher class of people to associate with, you may wish to ask yourself why you think you are higher in life than they are and why you find it appealing to aspire to be a "snobby want to be elite"
Nov 7th, 2003, 01:06 PM
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Ha Ha, y'all fell for the troll.
But, perchance it is a sincere question, I would recommend Smithsonian Journeys website. http://smithsonianjourneys.org/start.asp
But, perchance it is a sincere question, I would recommend Smithsonian Journeys website. http://smithsonianjourneys.org/start.asp
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Here's a sample of a post with similar elitist sentiments. Could we be dealing with-- THE REINCARNATION OF BUNCHARGUM?!?
Author: bunchargum
Date: 07/03/2003, 11:14 am
Message: I think people smile at those they feel are like them. For all the talk about diversity people will reaact best to those that fit their self image as someone like them.
Recently I was in a very small town in the midwest and everyone was very blue collar. You could tell they were set back from my white collar city way of dressing and acting. As a result, they were not that friendly. I threatened them because of our style difference.
Author: bunchargum
Date: 07/03/2003, 11:14 am
Message: I think people smile at those they feel are like them. For all the talk about diversity people will reaact best to those that fit their self image as someone like them.
Recently I was in a very small town in the midwest and everyone was very blue collar. You could tell they were set back from my white collar city way of dressing and acting. As a result, they were not that friendly. I threatened them because of our style difference.
Nov 7th, 2003, 04:16 PM
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I think you'd be happy with Celebrity. It's classier than, say Pricess, though I didn't like the dining room. Holland America is good, too. If you take a better room such as suite, you'd be assigned a better table and better class of people. It's just facts of life, whether you approve or not.
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I suspect that you came from a blue collar background and are ashamed of it. Those who forget where they came from and try to be other than what they are, end up sad and alone.
Sorry - but I couldn't help myself. I am an executive who came from a blue collar background. I am thankful for all that I have but the guy at the next table could be my father and therefore, I am not going to "dis" him because he "works as a cashier". My hard working father helped me to get where I am today and I love him for it. I would rather travel with people like him than people like you.
And, yes, I have fallen into the clutches of the troll but this message goes out to all elitists.
Sorry - but I couldn't help myself. I am an executive who came from a blue collar background. I am thankful for all that I have but the guy at the next table could be my father and therefore, I am not going to "dis" him because he "works as a cashier". My hard working father helped me to get where I am today and I love him for it. I would rather travel with people like him than people like you.
And, yes, I have fallen into the clutches of the troll but this message goes out to all elitists.
Nov 15th, 2003, 05:08 PM
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travelerquestion,
After reading your initial post, and then seeing your previous posts, two others that complained about the cost of travel, I would not want to be stuck with you at a dinner table for a week or more.
I do partake in the type of travel that you one day hope to ascend, and, believe me, I didn't get there by first going to Carnaval cruises or other similiar type travel. See, what that has created is a certain price expectation for you, but then expecting to be able to travel on lines such as Crystal, Seabourn and Radisson, without paying the price that such exclusive lines require.
If you truly with to become a first class traveler, first you need to stop complaining about the cost. Next, you should subscribe to such publications as Conde Nast Traveler and Travel & Leisure, so that you will not be required to come onto a public forum and make a fool of yourself. After a few months of reading these publications, you will know what is class and what is crass. Right now you are still stuck in the latter and probably belong, more than you will acknowledge, with the "blue collar- working class types, tattos, pot bellies and rough faces" (your spelling error, not mine, I just copied and pasted).
Until then, cheers.
After reading your initial post, and then seeing your previous posts, two others that complained about the cost of travel, I would not want to be stuck with you at a dinner table for a week or more.
I do partake in the type of travel that you one day hope to ascend, and, believe me, I didn't get there by first going to Carnaval cruises or other similiar type travel. See, what that has created is a certain price expectation for you, but then expecting to be able to travel on lines such as Crystal, Seabourn and Radisson, without paying the price that such exclusive lines require.
If you truly with to become a first class traveler, first you need to stop complaining about the cost. Next, you should subscribe to such publications as Conde Nast Traveler and Travel & Leisure, so that you will not be required to come onto a public forum and make a fool of yourself. After a few months of reading these publications, you will know what is class and what is crass. Right now you are still stuck in the latter and probably belong, more than you will acknowledge, with the "blue collar- working class types, tattos, pot bellies and rough faces" (your spelling error, not mine, I just copied and pasted).
Until then, cheers.
