COVID incidents and cruises

Old Oct 4th, 2021, 05:03 PM
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COVID incidents and cruises

Realizing that the NY Post is not considered the most credible paper, these incidents are also written up in the NYTimes and Forbes.
This is why cruise lines are being extra cautious, why ships are limiting interaction between passengers and local citizens. It is not simply a case of you, one passenger, interacting with a local friend, and going to the hospital if you feel sick. When a case happens on board ship, the results and logistics have ramifications far beyond that. Testing, evacuations, and the impact on local citizens and islands or poorer communities that may not have the structure to handle more puts everyone at risk.
Break through cases are big issues, even in fully vaccinated passengers.

https://nypost.com/2021/08/13/carniv...xas-to-belize/

https://nypost.com/2021/08/24/fully-...ise-to-belize/

https://nypost.com/2021/10/02/five-p...test-positive/
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Old Oct 4th, 2021, 07:49 PM
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Are you aware of this site?

https://www.cruiselawnews.com/
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Old Oct 5th, 2021, 01:10 AM
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Thursdaysd, No, actually, I can’t believe I was not familiar with this site. Thank you very, very much for posting it!

There are some travelers who are very upset by new rules on some ships that are requiring passengers to take only ship organized excursions to specific places. I can understand the new rules, especially seeing these. I think their hope is that passengers will not pick up anything off the ship or give locals more illness. With all the break through cases and COVID not really under control anywhere, traveling, especially on cruises (which I really enjoy), is pretty risky right now.

MSC does not surprise me in the least. I took one MSC cruise and was done. I loved the ship, service, food and entertainment, but no rules about hot tub and pool use by babies in diapers, hand sanitizing, handling of buffet dishes, children’s areas, etc. were ever enforced and passengers were pushy and rude. I can’t image they would wear masks or cooperate in any way. Those pictures of it look super crowded too.

Carnival has been extremely reluctant to require vaccines, so that explains that. Sorry, but we now know that unvaccinated children can get sick and can spread COVID.

A few ships are finally requiring all to be vaccinated and not taking passengers of any age who cannot at this time be vaccinated or who will not do it. That may also depend on requirements of the ports of call.

I hope to cruise by Spring, but certainly won’t if this continues.
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Sassafras - I am not a cruiser, but I have been keeping half an eye on the discussions on CruiseCritic, where I found the link. (I took one Caribbean cruise in the 70s, which I did not enjoy, although I did enjoy Bergen to Kirkenes with Hurtigruten, and a bare bones cargo-and-passenger trip up the Chilean coast. As I become more decrepit I may well be cruising in the future, albeit on rivers.)

CruiseCritic seems to be a classic case of the 80/20 rule - in this case 80% (and in some polls more) of the posters want their cruises to sail fully vaxxed, and 20% are making a great deal of noise repeating all the disinformation we see elsewhere. NCL and Viking have been sailing fully vaxxed, with no unvaxxed children, from the beginning of the restart. Even so, there have still been cases on board. If I were a cruiser I would probably be looking at Viking, but given that I am immuno-compromised, it will be a while before I travel anywhere, land, sea or air.
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