About the ship - Insignia or Regetta
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We are looking at going on a Med. cruise on the Insignia. Does anyone know if they have any open deck areas? We did a cruise on the Noordam & as old as she is she had an open outdoor sitting area on the back of the ship that was marvelous for having cocktails in the evening & watching the port disappear. We very much enjoyed relaxing & reviewing our day this way. I'd like to know if either of these ships have a similiar sitting area. Thanks for any info.
We are looking at going on a Med. cruise on the Insignia. Does anyone know if they have any open deck areas? We did a cruise on the Noordam & as old as she is she had an open outdoor sitting area on the back of the ship that was marvelous for having cocktails in the evening & watching the port disappear. We very much enjoyed relaxing & reviewing our day this way. I'd like to know if either of these ships have a similiar sitting area. Thanks for any info.
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You will love the Insignia. She is the sister ship to the Regatta (former Renaissance ships) and the aft area you mention is wonderful.
I did a complete review of the Regatta with tons of pictures at
http://www.cruisereviews.com/Oceania/Regatta1.htm
I hope it helps.
Have a great cruise!
Tom
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I did a complete review of the Regatta with tons of pictures at
http://www.cruisereviews.com/Oceania/Regatta1.htm
I hope it helps.
Have a great cruise!
Tom
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Thank you so much for your review.. We are considering the Insignia for a trans-Atlantic next year it just makes me want to go right this second. I'm interested in the reverse of their 3/15/05 cruise..if they keep the same itinerary.
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Thanks Tom for your indepth review. We are really looking forward to our trip.
Do you know, by chance, what would be the best way to Rome from Venice? We would like to end our trip with a few days in Rome.
Do you know, by chance, what would be the best way to Rome from Venice? We would like to end our trip with a few days in Rome.
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<<Do you know, by chance, what would be the best way to Rome from Venice? We would like to end our trip with a few days in Rome>>
I haven't done it, but I am cruising on Celebrity's Millennium next month from Venice to Barcelona and was offered Rome as an alternative airline gateway. I understand that the best way to make the transfer would be via rail. But, I am not sure this is the correct answer.
Let us know what you find out.
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I haven't done it, but I am cruising on Celebrity's Millennium next month from Venice to Barcelona and was offered Rome as an alternative airline gateway. I understand that the best way to make the transfer would be via rail. But, I am not sure this is the correct answer.
Let us know what you find out.
Tom
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Update: After speaking with the cruise lines about our trip, being told that we would receive a return phone call, letters, etc. We were told that Oceania is going to do NOTHING to keep us as a customer. I would highly recommend that you do not sail on this line, as you will be terribly disappointed.
After 17 cruises, and finding it to be one of the most pleasant ways to travel, we always look forward to our next trip. Originally we were going to go back to South America, but a new cruise line had started which was offering some very good perks and everything we had read was very encouraging. Luxury, small ship, open seating, smoking allowed in only two places, this sounded like heaven. We spoke with a travel agent, and decided this cruise on the Regatta, the first ship of Oceania Cruise Lines would be just perfect for us.
Oceania Cruise Lines is kind of a rebirth of Renaissance Cruises that had gone bankrupt about three years ago. Although we later found out that many of the leaders of this new company had been with Renaissance, the CEO had been with Crystal Cruise lines, so it had to be wonderful. This ship had been one of the R-ships from Renaissance, and a considerable amount of money had been spent on updating.
The ship was built in 1998 and refurbished in 2003. It is smaller at 30,200 tons, but perfect for 684 passengers. The guest to staff ration is 1.7 to 1 which is excellent, and no doubt would guarantee us an outstanding trip.
For at least a month I looked at the brochure every evening. It was so lovely, and the service was going to make this two week transatlantic cruise, from Miami to Lisbon, even more special. We had opted for a penthouse suite, cabin 8019. With over 300 sq ft, and a balcony, plus a butler, what more could we ask for.
I am going to break this review down in different areas that concern all passengers:
BEFORE THE CRUISE
We received our documents in good time, the air arrangements were very poor to say the least, and we were traveling for over 24 hours before we got back to Minneapolis, To go from Lisbon to Frankfurt to Chicago and finally to Minneapolis is not a terribly direct route. We were exhausted.
ACCOMMODATIONS
Our stateroom, penthouse suite 8019 was well maintained, kept clean by our attendant, and the bedding was fine. I cannot say that it was as spectacular as the company advertises, but it was acceptable. Our penthouse suite was a nice size, however, could have been furnished better. On Celebrity we had a bar in our suite with wine and other types of glasses always there. On this ship there was no such animal, and we had to ask every day for glasses. The butler did nothing out of the ordinary, and you had to ask for everything. According to the brochure, he would unpack your suitcase (which I did not want done) shine shoes, etc. I had lunch with a travel agent on the ship who had ask the same butler as ours to unpack her suitcase, and he refused. He said that was in the brochure just to make it look good.
FOOD
There are three main places to eat. The larger dining room has open seating. However it will not hold everyone, so if you get there late, plan on waiting 45 minutes for a table. The room itself is lovely, and the food( from the menu appearance) is excellent. However, they cannot get it to you even warm, and we constantly had to ask for coffee at breakfast.
The other two restaurants are the Polo Grill, and Toscana, the first being steak and the other Italian. You did have to make reservations there, but the food and the service was usually quite good.
CASINO
I like to play the slot machines a little bit, and I am referring to less than $50 for the cruise. Of course my money was a donation! However, one man was doing very well on the $1 machines, and had won twice in one evening. I believe it was $2500 total. Well, he went to cash some travelers checks, and the casino staff refused to cash them, saying it was not his signature. Obviously they did not want him to win anymore money!
INTERNET
The shipped offered computer classes, for a fee, and the internet was 95 cents per minute. This is the highest I have ever paid. Even with a package purchase on minutes, the lowest you could get the price per minute was to 80 cents.
GYM and SPA
This was quite nice but even the aerobics class charged a fee. There was no way you could get around with someone always having their hand out.
OVERALL ATTITUDE OF THE STAFF
This was the worst staff I have ever dealt with. Frankly, they acted like they were doing us a favor, not the other way around. They were not friendly, and could do nothing on their own. From the front desk to the dining room, the staff was pathetic. We even met with the Hotel Manager (General Manager) after four days of total frustration. He had sent a letter in response to our comments that had been submitted just a few days into the cruise. We called to confirm that we wanted to meet with him, as well as some friends of ours. He agreed. When we went to the area( the main lobby) to meet him, he refused to meet in private. He wanted to have us sit in the lobby and discuss these issues with us. We told him no, and he finally agreed to meet in his office, which is where you have private meetings in the first place.
We listed our complaints, dining room service, cold food, and a multitude of others. He became defensive, and never once offered the simple question "what can I do to make it right". It was just a pathetic example of how the lack of leadership does come from the top. No wonder the staff was so horrible. The hotel manager could not even set a good example.
STAFF PERFORMANCE AND SERVICE
I would say the officers were poor based on your meeting with the hotel manager. The butler was a joke. He didn't even show up for two days "because he did not want to disturb us", never offered to do anything, and we always had to ask. I had the tips removed from our bill, and I assure you he received nothing from us. His name was Manuel, from Portugal, and basically did the absolute least he had to do. We ask him twice to make reservations for us at the two of the other restaurants, and never once did he even get back to us.
The bar staff leaves a lot of be desired. One evening the waitress accidently put two glasses of wine on our friends tab, as only one should have been his and one mine. She did not know and it was not her fault. When she brought the bill back we explained it was on two separate checks. The next thing we know some woman bar manager comes marching in the dining room with this poor girl and made her apologize in front of us and just about everyone in the dining room. Not to mention the scene it made. We were embarrassed. Then they both come back with two glasses of wine and give them to us. Again, another scene.
DESTINATION SERVICES DEPARTMENT
This was a joke. We took three tours and the only one that was acceptable was in the Azores. The one in Funchal, Maderia the gal read the script for three hours, and the worst was the one in Jerez, Spain. There was a man in a wheelchair with his wife, and myself with an injured leg with 25 stitches in it. Neither of us could walk. The bus dropped us in town, and this was a walking tour. My husband spent all of his time trying to help the man in the wheelchair as his wife could not do it by herself. It was very difficult for me to get around on these streets, and we were never informed that the bus would not be available to us.
When we returned we went to the DESTINATION SERVICES desk, and ask for a refund. The lady with her husband in a wheelchair did also. We were required to fill out a form as to why we felt we should have our money back. Then when the completed form was taken back, the DESTINATION SERVICES manager said he would have to take it to the hotel manager for approval. That evening we received a voice mail during dinner that we would not receive a refund, and we would need to contact the Miami office. We paid $120 total. I saw the lady with the handicapped husband, and they told her the same thing.
ENTERTAINMENT AND ACTIVITIES
There really was not much to do. I enjoyed the art auctions and other than that, crafts, etc (everything had an extra charge) were of no interest. My husband attended the "Enrichment Lectures" given my some retired 3 star admiral who spent 20 years of his career in the pentagon ( not quite out with the troops) and his talks were all political. Very pro Geroge Bush, and not at all what should have been on a cruise ship. My husband is a retired Air Force office, and was shocked that this would be going on during his vacation. They actually held a straw poll to see who would win Bush or Kerry on the ship. This was totally not appropriate.
OVERALL RATING
This is the worst of 17 cruises that we have ever been on. Oceania just does not get the message about what luxury is actually about. They have a pretty ship, but no class, no helpful attitude. They are just a bunch of Renaissance people trying to start something new. They do not even own the ships, as they are leased from the bank of France.
I will not recommend this company to anyone. So many experienced cruisers were totally appaled at the service, and general attitude. You can have a beautiful ship, but if your staff stinks, so does your product.
I wrote to the company a month ago, and have not heard a word back from them. We spent $5600 plus expenses while on the ship. You would have thought they would care enough to be concerned about ours and many others unpleasant trip.
After 17 cruises, and finding it to be one of the most pleasant ways to travel, we always look forward to our next trip. Originally we were going to go back to South America, but a new cruise line had started which was offering some very good perks and everything we had read was very encouraging. Luxury, small ship, open seating, smoking allowed in only two places, this sounded like heaven. We spoke with a travel agent, and decided this cruise on the Regatta, the first ship of Oceania Cruise Lines would be just perfect for us.
Oceania Cruise Lines is kind of a rebirth of Renaissance Cruises that had gone bankrupt about three years ago. Although we later found out that many of the leaders of this new company had been with Renaissance, the CEO had been with Crystal Cruise lines, so it had to be wonderful. This ship had been one of the R-ships from Renaissance, and a considerable amount of money had been spent on updating.
The ship was built in 1998 and refurbished in 2003. It is smaller at 30,200 tons, but perfect for 684 passengers. The guest to staff ration is 1.7 to 1 which is excellent, and no doubt would guarantee us an outstanding trip.
For at least a month I looked at the brochure every evening. It was so lovely, and the service was going to make this two week transatlantic cruise, from Miami to Lisbon, even more special. We had opted for a penthouse suite, cabin 8019. With over 300 sq ft, and a balcony, plus a butler, what more could we ask for.
I am going to break this review down in different areas that concern all passengers:
BEFORE THE CRUISE
We received our documents in good time, the air arrangements were very poor to say the least, and we were traveling for over 24 hours before we got back to Minneapolis, To go from Lisbon to Frankfurt to Chicago and finally to Minneapolis is not a terribly direct route. We were exhausted.
ACCOMMODATIONS
Our stateroom, penthouse suite 8019 was well maintained, kept clean by our attendant, and the bedding was fine. I cannot say that it was as spectacular as the company advertises, but it was acceptable. Our penthouse suite was a nice size, however, could have been furnished better. On Celebrity we had a bar in our suite with wine and other types of glasses always there. On this ship there was no such animal, and we had to ask every day for glasses. The butler did nothing out of the ordinary, and you had to ask for everything. According to the brochure, he would unpack your suitcase (which I did not want done) shine shoes, etc. I had lunch with a travel agent on the ship who had ask the same butler as ours to unpack her suitcase, and he refused. He said that was in the brochure just to make it look good.
FOOD
There are three main places to eat. The larger dining room has open seating. However it will not hold everyone, so if you get there late, plan on waiting 45 minutes for a table. The room itself is lovely, and the food( from the menu appearance) is excellent. However, they cannot get it to you even warm, and we constantly had to ask for coffee at breakfast.
The other two restaurants are the Polo Grill, and Toscana, the first being steak and the other Italian. You did have to make reservations there, but the food and the service was usually quite good.
CASINO
I like to play the slot machines a little bit, and I am referring to less than $50 for the cruise. Of course my money was a donation! However, one man was doing very well on the $1 machines, and had won twice in one evening. I believe it was $2500 total. Well, he went to cash some travelers checks, and the casino staff refused to cash them, saying it was not his signature. Obviously they did not want him to win anymore money!
INTERNET
The shipped offered computer classes, for a fee, and the internet was 95 cents per minute. This is the highest I have ever paid. Even with a package purchase on minutes, the lowest you could get the price per minute was to 80 cents.
GYM and SPA
This was quite nice but even the aerobics class charged a fee. There was no way you could get around with someone always having their hand out.
OVERALL ATTITUDE OF THE STAFF
This was the worst staff I have ever dealt with. Frankly, they acted like they were doing us a favor, not the other way around. They were not friendly, and could do nothing on their own. From the front desk to the dining room, the staff was pathetic. We even met with the Hotel Manager (General Manager) after four days of total frustration. He had sent a letter in response to our comments that had been submitted just a few days into the cruise. We called to confirm that we wanted to meet with him, as well as some friends of ours. He agreed. When we went to the area( the main lobby) to meet him, he refused to meet in private. He wanted to have us sit in the lobby and discuss these issues with us. We told him no, and he finally agreed to meet in his office, which is where you have private meetings in the first place.
We listed our complaints, dining room service, cold food, and a multitude of others. He became defensive, and never once offered the simple question "what can I do to make it right". It was just a pathetic example of how the lack of leadership does come from the top. No wonder the staff was so horrible. The hotel manager could not even set a good example.
STAFF PERFORMANCE AND SERVICE
I would say the officers were poor based on your meeting with the hotel manager. The butler was a joke. He didn't even show up for two days "because he did not want to disturb us", never offered to do anything, and we always had to ask. I had the tips removed from our bill, and I assure you he received nothing from us. His name was Manuel, from Portugal, and basically did the absolute least he had to do. We ask him twice to make reservations for us at the two of the other restaurants, and never once did he even get back to us.
The bar staff leaves a lot of be desired. One evening the waitress accidently put two glasses of wine on our friends tab, as only one should have been his and one mine. She did not know and it was not her fault. When she brought the bill back we explained it was on two separate checks. The next thing we know some woman bar manager comes marching in the dining room with this poor girl and made her apologize in front of us and just about everyone in the dining room. Not to mention the scene it made. We were embarrassed. Then they both come back with two glasses of wine and give them to us. Again, another scene.
DESTINATION SERVICES DEPARTMENT
This was a joke. We took three tours and the only one that was acceptable was in the Azores. The one in Funchal, Maderia the gal read the script for three hours, and the worst was the one in Jerez, Spain. There was a man in a wheelchair with his wife, and myself with an injured leg with 25 stitches in it. Neither of us could walk. The bus dropped us in town, and this was a walking tour. My husband spent all of his time trying to help the man in the wheelchair as his wife could not do it by herself. It was very difficult for me to get around on these streets, and we were never informed that the bus would not be available to us.
When we returned we went to the DESTINATION SERVICES desk, and ask for a refund. The lady with her husband in a wheelchair did also. We were required to fill out a form as to why we felt we should have our money back. Then when the completed form was taken back, the DESTINATION SERVICES manager said he would have to take it to the hotel manager for approval. That evening we received a voice mail during dinner that we would not receive a refund, and we would need to contact the Miami office. We paid $120 total. I saw the lady with the handicapped husband, and they told her the same thing.
ENTERTAINMENT AND ACTIVITIES
There really was not much to do. I enjoyed the art auctions and other than that, crafts, etc (everything had an extra charge) were of no interest. My husband attended the "Enrichment Lectures" given my some retired 3 star admiral who spent 20 years of his career in the pentagon ( not quite out with the troops) and his talks were all political. Very pro Geroge Bush, and not at all what should have been on a cruise ship. My husband is a retired Air Force office, and was shocked that this would be going on during his vacation. They actually held a straw poll to see who would win Bush or Kerry on the ship. This was totally not appropriate.
OVERALL RATING
This is the worst of 17 cruises that we have ever been on. Oceania just does not get the message about what luxury is actually about. They have a pretty ship, but no class, no helpful attitude. They are just a bunch of Renaissance people trying to start something new. They do not even own the ships, as they are leased from the bank of France.
I will not recommend this company to anyone. So many experienced cruisers were totally appaled at the service, and general attitude. You can have a beautiful ship, but if your staff stinks, so does your product.
I wrote to the company a month ago, and have not heard a word back from them. We spent $5600 plus expenses while on the ship. You would have thought they would care enough to be concerned about ours and many others unpleasant trip.
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Manycruiser, Your timing for this post is amazing. I was considering this cruise line (really not knowing anything about it except for some leaflets received in the mail). I went to my travel agent yesterday and she said NO..don't book this, you'll be sorry. Many of her stories were similar to yours, some even worse. It is a shame because the ships look so nice.
I'm now looking at the Radisson Diamond which has some very good values going as well.
I'm now looking at the Radisson Diamond which has some very good values going as well.
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We were on the Insignia a couple weeks ago and we didn't find anything like the shortcomings Manycruiser reports. The staff were invariably courteous without being fawning, very professional even when provoked by unreasonable demands (see below), the food was hot, and the ship beautiful and very comfortable.
Example: a woman at one of our dinner tables in the main dining room ordered salmon without sauce. It was delivered thus, except there was a patch of white salmon fat on one part of the fish (which almost always happens when you grill or broil good salmon) which she thought was a cream sauce. It wasn't, but she sent it back. Four times. The waiter was invariably accommodating; on the last occasion the maitre 'd came over with the plate to make sure she was satisfied. By this time everyone else at the table had finished dessert and the crew were closing up the dining room. She grudgingly accepted the fifth plate of fish. No complaints, no indication of exasperation on the servers' parts (plenty on our part, that's for sure.)
Oceania is not a Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous line, and I've seen nothing in the literature that suggests that. Instead I expected, and received, about the same service, food quality and accommodation that we've received on Celebrity in the past, with the notable (and worthwhile) exceptions that the ship is a third the size, the specialty restaurants don't have silly surcharges, and the tux stayed comfortably in the closet at home.
Yes, the entertainment was blah for the most part (but not all), but we were so pooped by the shore visits that we could have cared less. I figured that out reading initial reviews of the Regatta so wasn't expecting anything else.
The Excursions desk was par for the course - too expensive, geared for people with much different traveling styles than us, frankly off our radar. The tour descriptions seemed pretty accurate - if one of Manycruiser's tours involved more walking than expected, perhaps the problem rested with Oceania for not making that clear (although I think the tour catalog indicated level of strenuousness for the various offerings.) Or perhaps more asking could have been done prior to booking. I do agree the money should have been refunded, but I don't know that I would extend that into a blanket dissing of the whole cruiseline.
Frankly, the most off-putting things we saw on our cruise were some of our fellow passengers. Ignorant to a breathtaking degree (asking if we were going to see the River Po on an outing to Florence, for example), utterly uninterested in some of the (very) interesting crew - where are they from, etc., and generally acting like spoiled kids.
I'm sorry that Manycruiser had such a bad time. I'm not dismissing her comments, just indicating that our experience was quite different.
Example: a woman at one of our dinner tables in the main dining room ordered salmon without sauce. It was delivered thus, except there was a patch of white salmon fat on one part of the fish (which almost always happens when you grill or broil good salmon) which she thought was a cream sauce. It wasn't, but she sent it back. Four times. The waiter was invariably accommodating; on the last occasion the maitre 'd came over with the plate to make sure she was satisfied. By this time everyone else at the table had finished dessert and the crew were closing up the dining room. She grudgingly accepted the fifth plate of fish. No complaints, no indication of exasperation on the servers' parts (plenty on our part, that's for sure.)
Oceania is not a Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous line, and I've seen nothing in the literature that suggests that. Instead I expected, and received, about the same service, food quality and accommodation that we've received on Celebrity in the past, with the notable (and worthwhile) exceptions that the ship is a third the size, the specialty restaurants don't have silly surcharges, and the tux stayed comfortably in the closet at home.
Yes, the entertainment was blah for the most part (but not all), but we were so pooped by the shore visits that we could have cared less. I figured that out reading initial reviews of the Regatta so wasn't expecting anything else.
The Excursions desk was par for the course - too expensive, geared for people with much different traveling styles than us, frankly off our radar. The tour descriptions seemed pretty accurate - if one of Manycruiser's tours involved more walking than expected, perhaps the problem rested with Oceania for not making that clear (although I think the tour catalog indicated level of strenuousness for the various offerings.) Or perhaps more asking could have been done prior to booking. I do agree the money should have been refunded, but I don't know that I would extend that into a blanket dissing of the whole cruiseline.
Frankly, the most off-putting things we saw on our cruise were some of our fellow passengers. Ignorant to a breathtaking degree (asking if we were going to see the River Po on an outing to Florence, for example), utterly uninterested in some of the (very) interesting crew - where are they from, etc., and generally acting like spoiled kids.
I'm sorry that Manycruiser had such a bad time. I'm not dismissing her comments, just indicating that our experience was quite different.
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Glad your experience was better than ours. We have just book South America for Jan 2005 with Crystal. I like getting what I pay for.
I will say in my shopping for this Crystal cruise, I heard many TA's not have the highest opinion of Oceania.
I will say in my shopping for this Crystal cruise, I heard many TA's not have the highest opinion of Oceania.
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i have read the manycruiser diatribe about oceania on several sites and wonder why the vendetta? from everything I've read, most people seem quite satisfied with the line. Also somewhat suspicious was the post after the review by someone who apparently changed their minds about oceania after reading manycruiser's comments. And the mention of some TA who was warning against the line. hmmmmm. Something not quite right (or believable) about all this. Before I bailed on our upcoming Oceania cruise (12/09/04)I'd want a whole lot more evidence than I've seen so far.
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Several times a day I receive e-mail messages from their site.. and people are just raving about the Oceania line..there may have been a problem with the "tour" desk as somebody else had mentioned. There are so many two for one deals/bargains... I wonder if he got that type of deal on his suite.. I've discovered that some people are very picky and unless he's paid the price of Crystal or Seabourne or the Queen Mary...and he shouldn't be complaining all over the board.. Too many people are doing their cruises...back to back.....WISH I WERE ONE RIGHT NOW!! Reviews have been fantastic..
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I try to read lots of reviews and I don't sense there is any vendetta.... but I have read a wider range of opinions on these cruises than probably any other cruise line. There doesn't seem to be much middle ground. The service is the one thing that appears to be somewhat hit and miss with each relating their own experiences.
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