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cmeyer54 Mar 31st, 2008 04:07 AM

You just might love an All Inclusive if...
 
1)you have warm nostalgic memories of your college dorm's food

2)when asked your favorite wine, you say GRAPE

3)your motto in everything is "the more, the merrier"

4)seeing fish is just a sidelight for a snorkeling trip...the real deal is all those 'free drinks'

4)MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC - all loud, all repetitive, all the time

5)overweight guys in speedos, black socks and sandalas are HOT!

please feel free to add on here...

KVR Mar 31st, 2008 04:48 AM

That is not an accuracte accessment of all AI hotels and if you think it is you have not been going to the right ones or you haven't been doing your research.

Yes, there are still a few of those type of AI's around, but many have greatly improved their service and quality. Along with that, their prices have gone up also. So that keeps the party types out.

cmeyer54 Mar 31st, 2008 04:51 AM

We just returned from a "5 star" AI that was quite spendy (in the $500-600/day range) and it was the worst experience of a lifetime. yes, we travel a lot and yes, we have high standards but when you're told by others at the pool that they've been lowering their expectations by the day...I don't think it was just me!

KVR Mar 31st, 2008 05:06 AM

Sorry, you have a bad experience at that one AI hotel. There are many others out there, so grouping them all together is not a fair accessment.

We've been to 12 AI hotels throughout the Carribean/Mexico and heading to another one in 3 weeks. We've have good experiences at all except 2, but it doesn't deter us from contining to go.

Instead of making a broad generalization of AI hotels, it would be more helpful if you posted a trip report. That way, others can decide for themselves if that is the type of vacation and/or hotel they are looking for. There are some party people out there that might think that is just the hotel they are looking for. While others will know to avoid it.

Kimberly Mar 31st, 2008 06:34 AM

We too have traveled both ways quite a bit and prefer an AI...we have never had a bad experience. I guess its what you make of your own vacation...not everybody will be pleased with everywhere they go!!!Happy travels!!!

Knowing Mar 31st, 2008 09:23 AM

We were just at Palm Island in the Grenadines last month and it was AMAZING! Wonderful cottages 20 yards from the water, quiet; the beach was fabulous. And it was an AI.
We usually do a non-AI, but we have done a few AI'S. Please do not post negative remarks on the way some people choose to travel. Perhaps what you have posted has been your experience as you've only gone to ones that cost $90 a night. Palm Island as well as some of the others have excellent food and very well aged red wines. I have only seen one drunk person at any AI and I can tell you that at Palm Island I saw people maybe have a glass of cognac after dinner. The only music was live and was brought in at night. Additionally, the people that have been at the AI'S we've been to have been appropriately dressed.

Reisender Mar 31st, 2008 10:20 AM

Well this is just plain silly and somewhat mean-spirited, and really does not describe the AI experience at all.

jencla Mar 31st, 2008 03:09 PM

Where did he go? Thats the question. Otherwise post is not helpful at all.....

myfavblueberry Apr 1st, 2008 03:05 AM

cmeyer54 must not travel as much as he/she would have us think.

NewsFlash: Every where you go you'll find the unpleasant if you look for it.

I guess cmeyer forgot to pack his/her "chill"

:)

greenie Apr 1st, 2008 06:07 AM

I think this post is kind of snobby.

To limit yourself in life to just one type of vacation or not is a shame. Sometimes you're in the mood for an AI vacation and sometimes not.

It's all about choice!

Peace, Greenie

albee622 Apr 1st, 2008 08:45 AM

6)you can stay away from the guy who wrote 1 through 5!!

cmeyer54 Apr 1st, 2008 03:34 PM

We were in the dominican republic and knew it was a third world country when we booked. Our church sends mission trips there annually so the poverty was expected. However, given our travel experiences, I expect value for the money spent and this AI did not deliver value. to answer the comment that perhaps we don't travel all that much, if Cabo, Huatulco, Ixtapa, Cancun(2x), Cozumel, Grand Cayman, Aruba, St John, St Thomas, St Croix, Amsterdam, Brugges, Madrid, Seville, Barcelona, Paris, Normandy, Munich, Heidelburg, Rome, Florence, Venice(2x), Milan, Tuscany, Alto Adige, Lake Como/Garda, Cortina, Bolzano, Siena and Verona aren't much. We've stayed in lodgings from agritourismso to luxury suites. I expect value...the Barvaro Palace didn't deliver. Sorry to toss cold water on the AI enthusists but it was my experience.

KVR Apr 1st, 2008 03:35 PM

So I was curious and hunted around for more info on this forum. It appears the OP booked a last minute trip to the Punta Cana Barcelo Palace. A partial trip report was posted and not completed.

We've been to many AI hotels/resorts, but not in the DR. (for a reason) More, thorough research would have probably helped.

Good luck on your next vacation.

blue_water Apr 1st, 2008 05:25 PM

Yes it is unfortunate that some post with an attitude not befitting an informed "traveler".

The comment isn't helpful to those looking at an AI for their first time.

So who did it help?

schmerl Apr 1st, 2008 05:45 PM

The Bavaro Palace may not have met your expectations, but is that really a reason to put ALL of the all inclusive resorts in the same category??!! I think not!

Tamsentm Apr 2nd, 2008 03:36 AM

While I appreciate that everyone's " ideal vacation" is different, I could never understand why I'd want to travel miles and miles on an airplane to a foreign country then cloister myself at an AI.

When I travel I want to experience the culture (which is very abundant through local foods/restaurants) and meet the local people and feel the vibe of the place. Some of our most memorable experiences have been at local eating establishments, conversing with people who live where we are only visiting. I do think you miss out when eating all your meals at a resort or not venturing out to take advantage of local services (boat charters, guided hikes, etc.)

That said, when I need a purely relaxing, no exploring/decisions to be made vacation, I'll head to a US resort for a few days of R&R and pampering.

I've also read in several travel magazines that the AI can be detramental to the local economy (like what's happened in Jamaica) similar to what happens when a casino opens near a small town/city (casino thrives, main street goes ghost town)

Of course I realize that everyone's personality is different and that "Mr too-small-speedo looking for the buffet" would not be at all happy at my villa on a desserted beach on a quite island (just as I'd be miserable in the congo line at Beaches!)

To each his own I guess!

schmerl Apr 2nd, 2008 03:43 AM

You know, they don't lock you into the confines of the resort! You can stay at an AI and still experience the local flair. There is no rule that says you can not leave the resort. We have stayed AI and have explored and mingled with the locals with no problem.
I like traveling any way I can. If I want pure relaxation and pampering, then it's going to be an AI resort....and YES...I will still explore the area!

Tamsentm Apr 2nd, 2008 04:00 AM

That's great Schmeri . . . you've found your "ideal vacation" but I know many people (relatives, friends, neighbors) that when I ask about their AI trip to St Martin, Barbados, etc they rave about how great it was and they NEVER HAD TO LEAVE THE RESORT! (sigh)

SO while it sounds like you (and I'm sure many others) enjoy the AI experience AND the local culture, there are as many who don't.

KVR Apr 2nd, 2008 04:06 AM

It is a total misconception that all people who vacation at an AI hotel "cloister" themselves at the hotel.

We love AI hotels for the conveneince, but we don't spend our entire vacation at the hotel. We are quite active and do excursions and visit the local bars and restaurants also.

I agree it is a shame that some people do that, but it's not accurate to think all AI vacations are that way. It's totally what the person makes of their vacation.

Kimberly Apr 2nd, 2008 06:22 AM

KVR....your post was 100% right on!you could not have said it any better A+.

WannabeinaMontserrat Apr 2nd, 2008 09:13 AM

KVR, I don't know about misconception, I just believe that you are the exception rather than the rule. I know tons of people who go to the Caribbean & can't tell you anything about it. I am certain, part of the mindset is I've paid for the food & such already, so I'm not going to go someplace else & (essentially) pay twice. The other thing is, in my opinion, is that not many people like to leave their comfort zone. You can go to a resort (most anywhere), have everyone speak English to you & go home & say I've been to such & such. Believe me, these folks are everywhere, but ask them a couple of questions & the response is usually - ??!!

WannabeinaMontserrat Apr 2nd, 2008 09:15 AM

Another related question. Are people that go to A1's the same people that go on cruises ?

Knowing Apr 2nd, 2008 09:22 AM

There have been times the AI has been a perfect fit for us.

1.My husband and I have had little time for each other whether it was due to careers or family issues. We have gone to savor the magnificent sunsets and panoramic views and just have time to veg alone without feeling like we "needed" to leave the resort. We always did, but we ate dinner out a few times as opposed to every night and visited the local attractions, but not every day. We would spend at least one day hanging at the pool.

2.We've traveled with friends that live half way across the country from us who prefer the AI's and we've enjoyed some lovely time together in some enchanting places. Again, we've had some dinners out and did some sightseeing.

3.My sister went to an AI this winter as she hasn't physically been able to travel for over ten years. She has head to toe RSD and booked the trip last minute as she was having a "ok" winter with her meds and was stable. She was able to make herself at home as best as she could. They did things as she felt able. When she was in bed, her husband was able to still enjoy meals and the pool and beach. They had pagers and the AI was the perfect solution for them.

Additionally, there are non-AI hotels where many people never leave the premises. FS Nevis is one. The staff told us the majority of their guests never leave the property.

ParrotMom Apr 2nd, 2008 09:36 AM

Well, we love the DR. and have a favorite resort it i not where cmeyer54 goes, but we have a favorite place in La Romana and another in Punta Cana (same company) and just love being waited on, the peacefulness, not having to sign up for "alternative" restaurants and the loving atmosphere.. Wherelese would we see the Manager of the hotel making his rounds several times a ay talking to guests. Not only that..the resort is so popular with returneees.. that once a year they have a "Fiesta" for frequent guests... we love them and they love us.

KVR Apr 2nd, 2008 11:28 AM

Kimberly, thank you.

"Another related question. Are people that go to A1's the same people that go on cruises ?"

Though that question could be construed as condescending, I can only answer for myself - No. We've been on 3 cruises 1980, 2002 and 2007. We really dislike cruises for many reasons. Also, cruises are not AI's since alternate restaurants, some speciality foods, soft drinks and alcohol are not included in the price, which can make a cruise quite expensive if you chose to pay for those options rather than going with what the cruise does include.

Tamsentm, you do have a valid point as some people go to AI resorts and don't leave for whatever reason, but is that really so bad? Who cares what people do or not do on their vacation. It's really not anyones business anyway. It's their loss that they didn't get to experience the destination or culture, but who are we to judge them or make false assumptions that the way it is when you go AI. Again, I think it's a shame, but I'm not going to critize someone on how they wish to spend their vacation time. I definitley don't want anyone judging or critizing me for they way I take my vacations.

Instead, I findit helpful when people post a full trip report with pictures so I can see if it's a type of hotel or destination I would be interested in going to. So called reviews or posts that rant and rave or are nothing but complaints are not helpful to anyone and usually only makes the person who posted it feel better.

For education purposes, there are different kinds of AI hotels. Ones who provide an AI option and ones that are total AI. The difference between a hotel that offers an AI option and a total AI hotel is that on the AI option, food and drinks are open to the public and sold for profit to people that are not necessary guests of the hotel as well as to guests who did not participate in the AI option. That makes the food quality and selection a little more above par. Also hotels that offer an AI plan are usually smaller than the mega resorts you'll find in the DR and Mexico and cost less since they don't include other amentities like a total AI resort does. We've been to several AI hotels/resorts and do prefer hotels that have an AI option over a totally AI property when it comes to food and drinks. So again, grouping all AI's is not an accurate or fair accessment.

If people would spend the time to actually do the research and not make assumptions, then they might not be so disappointed in the hotel/destination they chose. I know things pop up and do happen on vacation that are unexpected and annoying, but reporting nothing but the bad parts of a vacation is not helpful to anyone.

jencla Apr 2nd, 2008 12:38 PM

KVR How crowded is it likely to be in PDC/early June..... at Iberostar Maya?

schmerl Apr 2nd, 2008 01:28 PM

It really won't matter if the IB Maya is at full capacity. The resort is so big that it never feels crowded.
We were at the IB Paraiso during X-mas when it was at 100% capacity and it never felt crowded.

Tamsentm Apr 2nd, 2008 01:34 PM

KVR, I agree that a full trip report (with good, bad and maybe ugly) is much more useful to a forum like this.

That's what I did when my family went to Atlantis two years ago (truly my worse vacation EVER) I made sure to point out many positive things about the place and it's staff but said it just wasn't my type of place or vacation.

As I said, to each his own!

KVR Apr 3rd, 2008 03:40 AM

jencla,

Sorry, I can't be of any help with your question. We avoid huge AI mega resorts that allow children.

You might post your question or read the trip reviews on Trip Advisor.

Typically, the first week of June after Labor Day weekend is not as crowded as other times in the summer months.

WannabeinaMontserrat Apr 12th, 2008 05:09 PM

topping for mindy

MsE Apr 14th, 2008 04:16 AM

Well, I am glad that none of my 12 vacation weeks at AI resorts was like the OP describes. (I've also cruised over 20 times, and done other kinds of trips as well.)
For me, a week at an AI is a fun easy way to escape the winter weather and enjoy time with friends. Some friends have more $$ in the travel budget than others, and an AI is a great bargain, much less expensive than a cruise when all costs including airfare are considered.
I've done the AI route as a solo traveler, just to get away and enjoy the beach and sun; and love going with a group of friends.
Since the main dining is usually buffet, there is a huge variety of foods, including local favorites if you like to try those. (We still giggle over the night they served goat in Punta Cana, and most of us went back for second helpings, it was so good!) There are also 'reservation only' options if you prefer a sit down meal; we had the best Italian dinner in Cancun at JackTar's optional restaurant some years back. Wonderful service and atmosphere, this one was also open to the general public, not just resort guests.
If you want activities on the beach, in one of the pools, or a spa treatment, or dance lessons, or just relaxing poolside or on the beach, it's all there, and no concerns about if this or that fits in the budget.
Staying in an AI does not mean you can't get out and enjoy the local sites and sights if you so desire. Plus many such resorts bring some of the local culture to you, with folkloric shows, craft fairs, native foods.... not to mention how much you can learn by just taking the time to talk to some of the servers and other personnel.
I've done MANY trips where we investigated history and culture in depth, enjoyed them very much. But sometimes I just want a week on a sunny beach, no hassles, no hunting for where to eat, no budget watching, just REEEE-LAX.
OK, you get the picture. The OP is just not saying anything I'd agree with and sounds like s/he went to one cheap-o AI and didn't make the most of it.

WannabeinaMontserrat Apr 14th, 2008 06:18 AM

Truth be told, when I go on vacation I don't want to feel like I'm going to 'camp'. I avoid all resorts period, A-1 or not. Many of them could be planted on any beach, anywhere & you'd never know the difference. I go (particularly to the Caribbean) to escape. That means people as well. I have no trouble hanging out w/the locals & eating what & where they eat (well, most of the time anyway). I love asking the 'resort folks' about the island(s) they have returned from, many can't tell you a thing. To each their own, & frankly I encourage everyone to continue to frequent those mega-resorts all cut from the same mold. Because I, won't be seeing you.

suzski Apr 14th, 2008 09:05 AM

I'm a fan of AI's (and cruises for that matter). My husband and I have 4 children (3 teens, and a pre-teen) who like meeting and hanging out with other kids their age. We like that everyone can find something to do, something to eat, etc., and still be together in a gorgeous setting. The cost savings alone are huge when we factor in our always-hungry/thirsty kids. Also, we're scuba divers...many of the resorts we go to offer scuba diving as part of the package (another savings). However, no trip for us is complete without a history lesson from Mom (me) about the area we're going to (told in a conversational "oh by the way, did ya know" kinda tone), and several off-site excursions, preferably with local information and history thrown in.

Cruises are great because they allow us a brief glimpse of several different ports on a cruise (headed to 6 ports this summer on our 7-day Southern Caribbean out of San Juan). We use those short glimpses to decide which places we want to go back to on a traditional land vacation.

With that said, I can absolutely understand people just wanting to get away from their busy jobs, hectic schedules, etc. Their vacation is just that....theirs to do (or not do) as they please.


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