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Tabernash2 Jun 21st, 2014 12:09 PM

Why don't more Fodorites consider St Croix?
 
We recently spent a week on St Croix, at the Buccaneer Resort. We absolutely loved it. (See comments on my thread.)

But I will say that I was a bit hesitant to choose St Croix. Because I found so little enthusiasm for it here, except for a couple of posters, like starrs.

I have been to the French Riviera, the Italian Riviera, St Martin, Dominican Republic's Carib coast, Florida, California and Hawaii. For this recent trip, we wanted aqua blue, crystal clear water.

We were very happy we'd chosen St Croix, and the Buccaneer. I'm wondering why more people here don't consider it. I see comments on practically every other Carib island, but not much on St Croix. Lots of remarks on another travel site, though not much here.

Just curious.

Tabernash2 Jun 21st, 2014 12:15 PM

FYI:
http://www.fodors.com/community/cari...n-st-croix.cfm

Tabernash2 Jun 24th, 2014 08:18 AM

Now I'm really curious because no one even responded about St Croix. Folks are missing out on a great vacation spot, is all I'm sayin'.

suze Jun 24th, 2014 08:37 AM

My reasons are not against St Croix specifically, but the Caribbean in general.

Because I live west coast US, it's way easier and less expensive for me to get to Mexico or Hawaii for beach vacations. I only head to the Caribbean if I'm meeting friends from 'back east'. Then we go to Jamaica.

doug_stallings Jun 24th, 2014 10:36 AM

St. Croix is the least popular of the US Virgin Islands, but a lot of people on these boards also dislike St. Thomas and St. Maarten, primarily because of reports of crime. But I'm with you. St. Croix is actually my favorite of the Virgin Islands, and I'm sticking to that opinion. I've stayed on both ends of the island, and I have always loved it.

KVR Jun 24th, 2014 11:53 AM

I went to St. Croix many moons ago and St. Thomas within the last 10 years. Not destinations I would return to. There are just better Islands in the Caribbean to spend my hard earned money on.

Also, from my US departure point, it's not that easy to get to many of the Caribbean Islands and it can be rather costly in airfare. We tend to go to Mexico a lot also because it's cheaper and more convenient to get to. We also prefer AI vacations and St. Croix doesn't really offer good options in that respect.

I wouldn't mind returning to St. Croix as part of a cruise ship vacation. However, I have put future Caribbean cruises on that back burner because all the ones I am interested in stop in St. Thomas and I really don't want to go back there if I don't have to.

Bassguy66 Jun 24th, 2014 11:59 AM

I stopped there on a cruise a few years ago, and the area where the ship docked is not nice at all, and I can see why some might not like it. I spoke with a cab driver who said they didn't allow cruise ships for a while due to crime. We drove to the other end of the island, passing a gigantic oil refinery that wasn't very nice to see on the island either.

Now once we got to the opposite side of the island, it seemed very nice, and I can see where folks would like it. We took a charter over to Buck Island which was gorgeous.

Out of the 3 USVIs, I'd go with St John over ST Thomas & St Croix hands down. Just much less built up, better beaches, and a much safer feel to it.

suze Jun 24th, 2014 12:07 PM

St Croix has a reputation for 'crime' and for locals being not particularly friendly or welcoming. I'm not saying these are legitimate reasons or even true, but those thoughts are most definitely out there and commonly accepted.

If I were going back to USVI I also would go to St John instead.

Tabernash2 Jun 24th, 2014 12:40 PM

Thanks for your interesting points.

We found the people to be very friendly. But our time was mostly spend at the Buccaneer, where workers fall all over themselves to help.

Safety wasn't an issue I found in researching STX, nor when we were there. Not like the reputation I found for Mexico, St Thomas and Jamaica.

I should just keep quiet about it. Because we liked this low- key and uncrowded island.

suze Jun 24th, 2014 01:25 PM

I was in the USVI way back in the late 70's. Even then the reputation for St Croix as being dangerous was common place.

I'm truly glad you had a good experience at the resort, but I don't think you can really speak to an entire island's atmosphere or safety for tourist from that limited experience.

I'm not sure where you "found" the "reputation" for Mexico, St Thomas or Jamaica as being so much more dangerous. Those are all places I have been without issue myself.

Tabernash2 Jun 24th, 2014 02:21 PM

The 70s was a long time ago.

I won't argue about my opinion or my findings. They should not be taken as blanket "know it all" statements.

suze Jun 24th, 2014 02:22 PM

<The 70s was a long time ago.>

My point exactly. That St Croix has been troubled by a reputation as being not the most "safe" place for decades.

starrs Jun 24th, 2014 02:39 PM

Tab, I'm not sure why. I started going because a friend loved to stay at Chenay Bay - and golf at the Buccaneer. I absolutely fell in love. Later we returned to a villa on the opposite side of the island and it was heaven. It's still one of my favorite two islands - the other is St. Lucia. St. Croix is harder to get to compared to the others and Delta changed their routing (we flew on frequent flyer miles). IMO St. Thomas had the reputation for the crime and comments about St. John reminded me of Kauai and St. Croix was the equivalent of the Big Island. <<< just my personal opinion

For "unsafe" I think Jamaica, Puerto Rico and Mexico would beat St. Croix. We drove around St. Croix on virtually every road in an open jeep and I wouldn't do that in a lot of places. We avoided town when the cruise ships were in port, only because I hate being around that many people. But St. Croix on a non-ship day? Heaven. Any island in the Caribbean can feel "unsafe" but I never felt that way on St. Croix. We only drove at night one night - on the 4th of July after watching the waterfront fireworks at a restaurant. Yes, at that time I hoped we wouldn't have car trouble in the dark - but I don't think that is St. Croix specific.

Glad you enjoyed your visit. I hope to go back one day.

suze Jun 24th, 2014 03:46 PM

Just because you think Mexico or Jamaica is less safe does not make it true.

Tabernash2 Jun 24th, 2014 04:03 PM

Thanks, starrs. I completely agree with your assessment. We definitely hope to go back. With DS and DD both on the west coast, though, it will be more difficult to head east from home.

suze, I think everyone knows that reputations for "safety" change over time, and tend to be based mostly on opinion. No point arguing about it.

tejana Jun 24th, 2014 05:52 PM

Croix is one of my very favorite places in the world. If you are a diver, the North Shore (the northeast corner of the island between the Salt River and Davis Bay) is pure heaven. Much as I love it, though (and I've been going down there for close to 20 years), I've noticed an uptick in crime in the past 2 years -- the closing of the Hovensa plant really hurt the local economy a lot. I still keep going back though!

Tabernash2 Jun 24th, 2014 09:58 PM

Thanks for your perspective, tejana.

Some of my family went scuba diving, but I don't know exactly where. They had a great time.

We all went on a Buck Island snorkel trip, also.

The water is so much prettier in the Caribbean, than Hawaii. We couldn't get enough of being near the ocean--- swimming in it, listening to it, watching the waves.

I had heard the closure of that business caused some criminal activity, but I don't know what type it was supposed to have been-- theft or violent crime.

Odin Jun 25th, 2014 01:20 AM

<<I'm wondering why more people here don't consider it.>>
a) they have their favourite destinations and keep going to the same place every year, especially if it is cheap and easy to get to.
b) put off by crime even though that's ridiculous. Of course, one needs to be careful, but there are more dangerous places in the world, like Cape Town or Rio. The Caribbean is tame by comparison.
c) Can't be bothered to put in the effort to get there, if it is not a direct flight that takes 2 hours, forget it. If I only had 2/3 weeks vacation per year, I'd probably be the same.
If I have the opportunity to go, I would definitely go.

Bassguy66 Jun 25th, 2014 05:36 AM

I'd be curious to your opinion of St John after spending some time there compared to St Croix. You might then understand the attitude of this message board when it comes to which island is more desirable. All 3 can be great destinations, but St John seems to be the most popular for a reason.

stcroixboix Jun 28th, 2014 07:40 AM

Well...We've been to ST Croix approx. 20 times and always stay at The Buccaneer. It is by far our favorite island and our favorite resort. We've been to lots of Caribbean islands, several spots in Mexico and also to S.America. We have never had the slightest "safety" problem on STX and believe me ,I go everywhere I possibly can.I have had incidents in Mexico,where we've been to at least 7 different times. We have friends who have had "safety" issues on some of the other islands.The image that STX has probably came from an incident that took place almost 40 years ago when some tourists were killed while golfing at what is now the Carambola course. That's a pretty long time for that to keep coming back to haunt STX. I do know for a fact that there are problems on many other islands and many seem to be worse than what you encounter on STX. I will admit that the closing of the Hovensa refinery has hit the island pretty hard and things have change a little. Whenever I can, I check this forum and some others for info and I see many many comments about problems on other islands too. The people on STX are somewhat reserved but to my experience are most definetly not unfriendly. I will also say that when we tourists leave our own home areas and go to any place new or different many of the "problems" we encounter are probably in our own perceptions. They say beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I contend that the same applies to "safety". If I have a discussion with anyone who tells me how dangerous the Caribbean is, I usually ask them how they feel when they go to NYC, Phila.,Wash.,D.C,Miami or any of the many other large cities that I been to. If they don't feel the same about safty in big cities in this country , then I don't put much stock into their comments about the islands. STX is a wonderful island to visit and it still has somewhat of an older Caribbean feel to it. Each and every island that we've been to has it's own plusses & minuses but all in all STX can't be beaten. If someone goes to any island and is expecting perfection and a Disneyland sort of environment ,then they'll be disappointed. We're going to STJ again in a few weeks and although I like it quite a bit, STX still wins out for me. STJ has lost its West Indian character and it is very pricey. It's the prettiest of all of the island that we've stayed on but it has almost become like some sort of artificial spot. We first went there over 20 years ago and it was really neat. This will be our 5th or 6th visit and I have to say that it's becoming more like all of the other islands. It was very clean & pristine 20 years ago, but now you spot garbage containers, junk cars & trucks and all of those things that come with growth and popularity. STX really hasn't changed a whole lot in the time that we've been going there and I hope it kind of stays that way.


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