What are the safest and most friendly places, in the Carribean, to go?
Jan 2nd, 2002, 04:29 PM
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Good god - after what happened on 9/11, people still expect the Caribbean to be some magical mystical place where crime is banished completely? Where one can walk amongst only savoury looking characters, or where one can wander aimlessly in dark and isolated places and not be possibly subjected to harm?
Does anyone ever bother reading that little, but oh so informative, section at the front of all travel guidebooks called Security and Safety while travelling? Guess what folks, this same valuable information applies no matter where you are travelling anywhere in this world.
I don't usually get all cranky on this board but questions like this are really inane when I'm sure that the unlucky people in the WTC or Pentagon would be happy with just being on an island right now..any island.
Does anyone ever bother reading that little, but oh so informative, section at the front of all travel guidebooks called Security and Safety while travelling? Guess what folks, this same valuable information applies no matter where you are travelling anywhere in this world.
I don't usually get all cranky on this board but questions like this are really inane when I'm sure that the unlucky people in the WTC or Pentagon would be happy with just being on an island right now..any island.
Jan 2nd, 2002, 04:32 PM
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Oh please let's not make this about the World Trade Center disaster. As a resident of Manhattan, I'm sick & tired of people like Debbie.
Safety is important, especially for families traveling with teenagers. The fact is, some islands are safer than others. I'm comfortable with my teens wandering around Grand Cayman, Aruba, and most of the BVI at all hours, but I certainly wouldn't want them carousing around St Maarten, the USVI or most of Jamaica.
Please!
Safety is important, especially for families traveling with teenagers. The fact is, some islands are safer than others. I'm comfortable with my teens wandering around Grand Cayman, Aruba, and most of the BVI at all hours, but I certainly wouldn't want them carousing around St Maarten, the USVI or most of Jamaica.
Please!
Jan 2nd, 2002, 05:29 PM
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Terry, what do you mean "le your teens wander"?
You let them wander around the whole damn island? What if they can't drive.
We stayed near Maho in sxm, which is treated like a warzone by donkeys like you, and let our teens (15) wander around the Casino area.
If your interested in SXM, go to TTOL, and dont listen to people like Terry and hannah. Everybody tells that "they told us not to walk around the beach junk", she probably never even went!
You let them wander around the whole damn island? What if they can't drive.
We stayed near Maho in sxm, which is treated like a warzone by donkeys like you, and let our teens (15) wander around the Casino area.
If your interested in SXM, go to TTOL, and dont listen to people like Terry and hannah. Everybody tells that "they told us not to walk around the beach junk", she probably never even went!
Jan 3rd, 2002, 06:54 AM
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Yes, if you're reading this post and interested in St. Martin, go to traveltalkonline for plenty of censored propaganda from your friendly nudist moderator, "Eric." Just don't let him or his wife know that you're a "textile."
But, heaven forbid you want unbiased information from real travelers, stay right here on Fodor's.
But, heaven forbid you want unbiased information from real travelers, stay right here on Fodor's.
Jan 3rd, 2002, 07:25 AM
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You miss my point, "Truth Hurts." I don't have a problem with au natural sunbathing -- it's fine with me. I DO have a problem with biased information generated by morons with little travel experience beyond one or two destinations. Censorship of negative posts is also wrong, IMHO.
Fodor's is a great forum because it includes ALL Caribbean islands -- specific island sites tend to attract only cheerleaders for that particular island. With this forum, people with questions usually get a wide variety of responses, both positive and negative. That's a good thing, I think.
Fodor's is a great forum because it includes ALL Caribbean islands -- specific island sites tend to attract only cheerleaders for that particular island. With this forum, people with questions usually get a wide variety of responses, both positive and negative. That's a good thing, I think.
Jan 3rd, 2002, 07:46 AM
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Lets put it this way: I've been to SXM. Before the trip I read this forum and I read TTOL. Based on what I saw in SXM, TTOL is much more accurate than Fodors. No comparison. The pro-bias on TTOL is much smaller than the negative-bias here. Nothing wrong with negative posts if they're accurate but much of the stuff on Fodors are nothing but outright lies and nudie bashing. Fine if you're in the 6th grade but it's something most of us outgrow.
Jan 3rd, 2002, 07:53 AM
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I'm 62 years old, a retired physician. Since my first visit to the Yucatan in 1960, I've been travelling to the Caribbean for vacations - I've visited just about every island at least once, and never from a cruise coffin, I mean, cruise ship.
The original question asked about safety. The fact is, some islands are safer than others, primarily due to unemployment, infrastructure, the prevalence of hurricanes, etc. St M/M is at the bottom of the safety list, for the reasons listed.
The original question asked about safety. The fact is, some islands are safer than others, primarily due to unemployment, infrastructure, the prevalence of hurricanes, etc. St M/M is at the bottom of the safety list, for the reasons listed.
Jan 3rd, 2002, 08:19 AM
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Look, I'm not going to candy coat it and say SXM is totally safe, because it's not. The restaurant area in Grand Case gets a little hairy around closing time and it's important not to leave anything you cherish in your rental car. But I saw no criminal activity at all while I was there and for the most part felt as safe as I would on any street in America. I prefer to focus on the positives rather than worry about every unsavory-looking character I see, much of which is home spun racial profiling.
Jan 3rd, 2002, 09:06 AM
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All things aside, including Eric's inapproprite behavor on other boards, censoring or deleting, getting personal - why if someone doesn't like a particular spot is it personal and the posse comes out? There are as many answers to this question as there are posters. Hopefully read lots of information from lots of sources and make an intelligent guess and then HOPE that you don't have a problem where ever you travel by being alert and aware. Can't believe this isn't a troll post anyway expecting the half crazed to go off and they did! Have to admit it makes better reading than the funny papers and about as accurate too!
Jan 3rd, 2002, 09:52 AM
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OK, what is SXM, and what is this about being a religious fanatic or white trash simply because I wouldn't want to see nude sunbathers? Believe me, I'm neither nor am I a prude but let's face it, most people's nude bodies are in no shape to be displayed to the world. It's more that I would be embarassed for THEM. I've been to some nude beaches and have a message, cover up people, it's not a pretty sight! Trust me when I say, the naked body is NOT a beautiful thing for 99.99% of the population!
Jan 3rd, 2002, 10:46 AM
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Welcome, "newhere."
SXM is code for St. Martin/Maarten, and you're absolutely right that 99.99% of the population should keep their clothes on. Of course, that makes you an evil textile who must be a fanatic or white trash. Get used to it -- SXM has an active tourist board that protects its reputation and hides the truth about crime and litter.
Welcome to Paradise!?!?
SXM is code for St. Martin/Maarten, and you're absolutely right that 99.99% of the population should keep their clothes on. Of course, that makes you an evil textile who must be a fanatic or white trash. Get used to it -- SXM has an active tourist board that protects its reputation and hides the truth about crime and litter.
Welcome to Paradise!?!?
Jan 3rd, 2002, 12:53 PM
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Yea, welcome to paradise.
Theres hardly any litter on the island now.
But if you go somewhere like Provo, which I went to in July, which is highly Reccomended here at fodors, there is a ton of litter. You go to a nice site on provo and there are 2000 Heinaken bottles laying there. Its the way the caribbean is, not SXM.
This James moron has never been to SXM.
Crime and Litter?
And that other moron Jt. The 60 year old. What makes you think SXm is at the bottom of the list? What list? Wheres your proof? Is it a list you made? Show it to us, please!
Theres hardly any litter on the island now.
But if you go somewhere like Provo, which I went to in July, which is highly Reccomended here at fodors, there is a ton of litter. You go to a nice site on provo and there are 2000 Heinaken bottles laying there. Its the way the caribbean is, not SXM.
This James moron has never been to SXM.
Crime and Litter?
And that other moron Jt. The 60 year old. What makes you think SXm is at the bottom of the list? What list? Wheres your proof? Is it a list you made? Show it to us, please!
Jan 3rd, 2002, 01:03 PM
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Better check the beacon on line for the recent problems in the BVI. No place is completely crime free especially with the downturn in the economy and tourists staying home combined with the increased drug problems throughout the world. BTW, The Turks and Caicos aren't in the Caribbean!
