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Re:posters telling others not to visit a location

May 8th, 2002, 07:34 AM
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If that's the case, then Butch and all the other big resort chain owners should be ashamed of themselves, not to mention the Jamaican gov't. for not making these millionares pay more in taxes in order to help their own people.
May 9th, 2002, 05:43 PM
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If you are traveling to Jamaica in July and are interested in bring gifts/donations you might want to visit Jamaicans.com. The have an active bulletin board with many people that are passionate about the island and it's people. I returned 2 weeks ago and hooked up with peole that delivered schools supplies and baby items. You can call and they will pick up at your hotel or you may be able to deliver items yourself with others.
(What part of Jamaica are you going to?)
I also went through my closet and took out LOTS of stuff that I just don't wear that much and some that still had tags on. Your maid, gardener, etc will appreciate any gifts. I just opened the conversation do you have any daughters .. etc. If they didn't have a daughter my size they had a niece, etc. Then I had an empty bag to bring home gifts. I feel that any item there will be better served than at my local Salvation Army.
Have a wonderful trip.
May 10th, 2002, 03:07 AM
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Dear Anon -- You've answered your own questions. The reality can be that dire.
But that's yet another good reason to travel in this spectacularly beautiful country. If travel should alter one's perceptions at all, here it also helps you form real, deep friendships with people who'll alter your perceptions for life. Jamaica is just a constant love-hate affair...
May 10th, 2002, 03:13 AM
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DONATIONS: Be careful about clothing gifts to Jamaica. While the gift is appreciated, second-hand clothing has a stigma about it: Jamaicans can be very superstitious and some will scorn hand-me-downs as 'dead-people clothes'. Better to give your clothes to a local charity and go to Target or a mass merchandise store for NEW t-shirts, fancy soaps,moisturizing lotions and such. Solid colors work best. And leave all the stickers,tags,original bag on. Your gift is from a-foreign and the merchandising is part of the allure.
May 10th, 2002, 05:45 AM
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Hate to open a new can of Jamaican worms but here goes....one poster mentioned that most households in Jamaica only have one earner, thus making it more difficult to afford the school for their children.

When we went to Jamaica (Negril, 1993) most of the islanders we spent time speaking with were the women [probably because they didn't proposition us in graphic detail like the men did].

Always the same story from these women. They worked to support the family and their men did not. When asked why they would put up with that, the answer was always a variation on the theme: "Das jus da way our men are".

Now I am not a militant feminist, but if the hard working women of Jamaica were to suddenly stop putting up with that situation, and refuse to have sex with men who don't care to support their children, I dare say the living/educational standards in Jamaica just might improve.

May 10th, 2002, 05:56 AM
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Wow! Personally, I want to hear both sides about places I am planning on visiting. You can have a bad vacation no matter where you are.
Kids not being in school is sad, no matter what. It's extremely unfortunate that the government doesn't help the families. These kids are their country's future. Many of us in this country have been very blessed in that we are able to afford to travel as well as owning some nice homes and toys.
As far as Butch goes, I have been told many times by Sandals employees that they have the best employment of all. We have always tipped regardless of the no-tip policy and we have tipped very well. I returned home from a vacation a couple of years ago and got paperwork together for one of the employees whose son's father was living in my home state and managed to get Mom child support. Tea, Linda and Rebecca seem to understand the importance of doing for others. Maybe the real answer is to ask ourselves what else we can be doing instead of spending so much time being so critical.

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