How Dangerous is Jamaica Negril or Ochos Rios

Old Nov 26th, 2002, 11:17 AM
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Dave,

In fact according to your web link XYX was only off by one?

In fact Jamaica has the FOURTH highest murder rate per capita in the world not the third as previously stated.

Shame on you XYZ get your facts right

 
Old Nov 26th, 2002, 11:35 AM
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XYZ,

Take a minute and check your statistic files.
Could you see in there how many tourists have been killed in Jamaica in the last 10 years? What proportion is that number to the total number of homicides in Jamaica during that same period?
You can go out to 5 decimal places if you like, to make sure your answer contains something other than zeroes.
Maybe if you take the Jamaican election years out of the Jamaica numbers, you might get a statistically larger response from your calculation.
What do you show there? Maybe 3 tourists vesus 5,500 to 6,000 total homicides? Do you think that makes your result significant in any of these discussions?
Or will you simply resort to the standard "Jamaica's a pit and no one in their right mind would go there when they could go to ......" rejoinder?
The bottom line is that tourists are as safe in Jamaica as they are in their own home towns.
In fact, of all the tourists who visited Jamaica last year, and all those who set out from their homes on the way to Jamaica -- although there is no way for any of us to prove it -- I'll wager more of those people died on the way to the airport or cruise ship, or on the way home from the airport or cruise ship, than died as a result of a violent act at the hand of a Jamaican in Jamaica.
 
Old Nov 26th, 2002, 01:10 PM
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Indeed! It is really much ado about nothing IMHO and I think Jam Man offered the best perspective on this issue. There are shootings and killings all over the world every day but we still travel, don't we? In most cases, just a little common sense and good judgement is all that is needed. Lisa, it is up to you at the end of the day. But I will say, having visited JA no less than 6 times and having been the length and breath of the island and lived to tell all the wonderful tales of my visits, it will be a real pity if you let, what I call the "scare tactics" of some folks turn you off from going to and enjoying JA. It is a great place, one of the most beautiful islands in the Caribbean and it offers a laid-back stress free vacation for the taking. That's what I experienced when I went there and I am sure, once you put that little bit of paranoia aside, you will experience the same thing too and will want to go back for more. And I must tell you that Jamaica at Christmas is especially wonderful. I have been there twice during the holidays and cannot say enough about it from the special local food (sorrel, christmas pudding, ginger beer etc) to the festive atmosphere, to the spirit of the people. It was all very special and memorable.
 
Old Nov 29th, 2002, 07:01 PM
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Excuse me - a Canadian girl was murdered in Bermuda.

A Canadian girl was murdered in Antigua.

57 people have been murdered here in Toronto this year alone...

A reporter went missing in 1995.... better not go to Jamaica - Must be unusually DANGEROUS!

As someone else pointed out if you would go to New York or Los Angeles... go and enjoy Jamaica...

 
Old Dec 1st, 2002, 11:25 AM
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LA had 17 murders in the past couple of weeks...watch out!!
 
Old Dec 5th, 2002, 11:03 AM
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Don't waste your hard earned dollars on Jamaica. The place is hell on earth regardless of the number of murders. There are so many other wonderful places to go, why would you want to ruin a Christmas on this hell hole? The only reason to go to Jamaica is if you are on some sort of mission to help the people there.

When there are guards with M-16 machine guns at the entrance to Burger King to keep the locals out, you know something is terribly wrong.
 
Old Dec 5th, 2002, 11:17 AM
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Acgtually the blokes toting the M-16s at the BK were there to keep the customers in and force them to eat that deep fried crap they serve, not to keep people out.
 
Old Dec 6th, 2002, 06:12 AM
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Always remember when you read a post by "sniper", to just skin past it. Obviously he/she has no clue. Jamaica (which I have visited several times) is a wonderful place and I have never experienced anything bad there. Perhaps "sniper" is dumb enough to delibratly go looking for trouble.
 
Old Dec 6th, 2002, 06:35 AM
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I agree with Harry... "Sniper" seems like he has never actually been to JA... Or if he has been there, it sounds like he is describing Kingston. Most tourists don't end up in Kingston. It is the city of Kingston that brings the crime rate up in Jamaica. I've been to Negril, Ochos Rios, and Billies Bay on a number of occasions, and have never seen armed guards anywhere. I visited a public school the other day (in the states) and did see an armed guard there, as in many urban US high-schools and colleges.
 
Old Dec 6th, 2002, 10:59 AM
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You have never seen armed guards in Jamaica? Have you even been there? They are everywhere.

Although I don't agree with Sniper's methods, he is right. Jamaica is a bad place to go. He is also right about there being armed guards at the BK. The BK in Ochos Rios DOES have them strictly to keep the locals out. That was just one of the places we saw guards armed with machine guns.

I would not advise anyone to go to Jamaica.
 
Old Dec 6th, 2002, 11:11 AM
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Take a hike Joe!! No one wants to here your ignorant, non-sensical opinions!
 
Old Dec 6th, 2002, 11:23 AM
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Joe,

When were you in Ocho Rios when you saw armed guards at the Burger King? How did you find out they were there to keep the locals out?
What were the other places you saw guards?
I've never seen them in all the times I've been there, and I'm wondering if there is an 'event' explanation as to why we had 2 very different experiences. If it were during the election period, that might be a reason. Or, if there had been a crime of some type committed nearby, that might also be a reason.
I'm stumped, though, as I've not seen the guard situation you describe.
 
Old Dec 6th, 2002, 11:33 AM
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Joe and Sniper both have been smoking crack. Jamaican people are so very nice. There are no more problems in most of Jamaica than any US place I ever went to. If Jamaica is so bad, then why are they one of the top tourists islands year after year for Americans, Canadians and Europeans? Why do major resort chains and hotels build there? Duh.
 
Old Dec 9th, 2002, 05:44 AM
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The last time we were there was May of 2000. I found out that the guards were there to keep the locals out because I asked one of them. The man's reply was that only tourists are allowed in this BK. This was in Ocho Rios. We also saw a handful of government guards on street corners and at the entrance/exit to the market in Ocho Rios.

The other couple we were with were robbed by their taxi driver and left stranded on the side of the road. Of course this was after he threatened to rape the female. They considered themselves lucky that only their money and personal possessions were taken.

Perhaps these experiences were a one time thing but I have never run into this type of stuff on any other Caribbean Island I have visted, and I have been to 11 other islands.

I will say that the island is beautiful, however it's not worth my time or money to go there when the human element is so disgusting.

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When were you in Ocho Rios when you saw armed guards at the Burger King? How did you find out they were there to keep the locals out?
What were the other places you saw guards?
I've never seen them in all the times I've been there, and I'm wondering if there is an 'event' explanation as to why we had 2 very different experiences. If it were during the election period, that might be a reason. Or, if there had been a crime of some type committed nearby, that might also be a reason.
I'm stumped, though, as I've not seen the guard situation you describe.
 
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