Hedonism II
 

Have gotten some good reports regarding Jamaica's Hedonism II and its hang-loose, swinging philosophy. Any information would be appreciated.

For information and links regarding Hedonism try www.jamaicajim.com He has a great homepage with tons of info and links. Good Luck and have fun.

My sister and her H went to Hedo II and had the time of their lives. They r trying to get friends to experience it too, now they want to go to Hedo III! They loved it, but be prepared to be shocked from some of the way people dress! I saw the video of the pajama party and some people were NOT pleasant on the eyes!!

My husband and I went to Hedo and found the beaches and the water a BIG disappointment. The truth is that 90% of the people, singles are well as couples are there to "swing", we were hit on constantly. I was told by my travel agent that it was a party atmosphere, that it had something for everyone, well, most guests are into Ecstacy (the drug), we were offered it often. Let's be truthful, the guests aren't really nudists, they're there for sex. Husbands were holding their wives hands while they were with other partners, sex in the hotel hot tubs (yuk, how unsanitary!), and in the pools. "To each their own" I always say, but it wasn't for me, too much and too much in your face. And those awful 70's style formica rooms! It's definately a swingers paradise, not a beach lovers paradise.

Hi! I visited here last yr in Feb, We were staying at Sandals Negril which is right next to Hedonism, only separated <BR>by a gate which you are more then welcome to enter anytime you want.I feel the same way it looked like a swappers dream. No thank you !!!!

Reply to Tom / a few messages above: You can't catch AIDS from having sex in your fantasies - but you can definately catch AIDS from having casual sex with men who are having casual sex with everything that walks (or lays down)! Leila

In reply to Tom!! <BR>I have been very happy, married and faithful to the same man for 24 yrs. He is the only man I want to make my fantasies come true. <BR>

Tom, one other thing, if you are wanting to talk about fantasies ther are plenty of other web sights to go to. This one is for travelers who like to chat about the places they have visited and the things they liked about there vacations not garbage like that. Anyone AGREE?

I was being fascetious and am very sorry for being disrespectful to the ladies. Actually, I found both ladies's posts valuable, especially Leila's. Maybe the lesson of Hedonism II is that we should not get to live out all our fantasies because some fantasies result in bad trips. Again, ladies, please accept my apology.

Tom, I accept your apology!

Why do you even bother to travel? You're all too naive. Go to see other cultures, etc., not to parade around without "a shell". You can do that at home. Fodor would be insensed.

Went with a girlfriend three years ago. Watching your girlfriend have sex with another guy or even knowing about what she is doing three doors down the hall with is not as much fun experiencing as it is fantasizing about. We split up as soon as we returned from Hedonism. I found out that I'm not totally comfortable with the hang-loose atmosphere at Hedonism II. I'll never go back.

Yeah, I think we all know that place was built strictly as a meeting place for swingers. I'd never go there. I mean, I'm a red-blooded American male who has fantasies about such things, but i wouldn't take my girlfriend there. And besides, Ive seen pictures of the place, and can tell you that by the looks of it, I didn't see to many women that would meet my fantasy criteria(maybe thats what all the drugs are for).

Sounds like a great place. Any other feedback would be appreciated. Thank you.

A woman named Chris Santilli sells a book through Amazon.com on the topic of Hedonism II. The Amazon blurb makes it seem like the nudity is limited and so is the sex. This conflicts with the views of some of the posters to this Fodor's thread. Does everybody just romp around naked, even amongst hotel staff? Do people, even anonymous people, copulate in public as others watch on in the manner of the movie "Clan of the Cave Bear"? Do many of the men embarass themselves due to their prediliction toe aroused by the sight of pretty, desirable nude females? What is the truth about this place?

Ecstacy, Nudity, Copulation. Hey, you bible thumpers may live your lives as you want. Sometimes I travel for culture, sometimes for fun. This sounds like a great place to me!

This is just my view and we all have our own. Ok, for one thing yes they do walk around all natural even in front of the staff, and no I did not see any copulating in public, I think the people who go there have morals and what they do in private is not much of anyones business but theirs. I found it to be to easy for things to get out of hand while I visited their. I might be a little prudie but nudity I feel should be between 2 people whom love each other and I am not willing to share my hubbie (it all ways) with anyone else. That not to say its not ok for the rest of you I respect your views on this and we all should enjoy our travels where ever it takes us!!

My goodness Leila!! From reading your post, you obviously went to Hedo 2 at a wrong time. You apparently were there the week the Lifestylers were there. Too bad you didn't check out www.dennyp.com before making the trip. With the information available at the web site, you would have been able to change the dates, but since you didn't check out the web site, you ended up at the right resort at a wrong time. My husband and I go there because we love it. We don't go there to swap or have an orgy. We are not swingers, but we enjoy being nude. REMEMBER, being nude doesn't necessarily mean you are swingers! We go back again and again because of FRIENDS we made, the atmosphere is just wonderful, the staff is sooo friendly, and the night life is fun! We wouldn't want to stay at any resort where people go to bed at 10pm!! <BR>

Maggie, I'm with you! <BR>I find it amusing that people that have never been to Hedo think they have all of the answers. Oh no, don't go THERE! The place is full of ecstacy crazed swingers!!!! LOL!!!! Give me a break! <BR>Leila must have been there during an especially crazy week. <BR> <BR>This must be said...Yes there are swingers at Hedo. Respect is the key word at Hedo. If you are "hit on" and you are not interested just politely say no thank you and that's it! Move on!! It's that simple. <BR> <BR>Look, Hedo isn't right for everyone, this is true. But those of you who choose to bash the place, when you haven't even been there?! You really need to get a life! <BR> <BR>And no, I'm not a "swinger" either.

I can't believe all the comments from people that haven't even been to the resort. <BR>Firstly, let me address the Aids topic - there were no reports of that ever happening. The hot tub is cleaned and chemicals are put daily if not twice a day. If there is sex, it's not in your face. The people are friendliest and most respectful we have ever met (we traveled to Hawaii, Mexico, in Europe - extensivley, and never had so much fun. We are not swingesr and I consider my husband to be the only man for me. We are both professionals as most of the people that go to Hedo. <BR>As far as fantasies and letting your girlfriend sleep with somebody else - I don't think she had a gun put to her head and forced to have sex, did she? Looks to me like a total lack of communication between the two of you and failing to set boundries for one another before you went. <BR>We've never senn any other drug but ganja and not all of us smoke. We go there to have fun, drink dirty bananas, meet great people to converse with, dance with, play voleyball with - while naked. <BR>If you think that men are aroused at all times by the nude pool, you have no iea what nudity is all about. It's not a meat market, you are there for different purpose. Of course you will find some people that are interested in swaping partners, but if that's not your thing - simple no, thank you works very well over there. Respect is the game at both Hedos. For those of you who are afraid to take your partner there - do yourselves a favor and try it - you'll find that your relationship can only benefit from the romantic atmosphere. It's up to you to set your boundries, nobody will force you to do anything you don't want to do. Most of the people that go there are regular folks that want to have fun. If your only criteria for making friends is their external beauty and body shape, I wonder how you are doing in a real life? You must be some special guy if you are surrounded by models-look alike all the time. I'm sure that a lot of people might not consider your significant other a good candidate to date or sleep with, would you still take drugs on those grounds? <BR>Please, give me break. Do some research before you bash the place and its atmophere about which you obviously have no real idea about.

I have no idea what some of these messages are about. My husband and I have traveled to many different places but we can't have the fun at any of them that we can have at Hedo. That is because it is an ADULT vacation mostly for couples who are in love and just want to "spice up" their relationship with each other, have a lot of ADULT fun and games, and meet wonderful people that will be friends forever. There are some swingers there, but the majority of people there are not on drugs, and not into the swinging scene. I don't even know why the place gets the reputation of being for swingers. They are certainly in the minority there. There is a prude side and a nude side as well, as there are at most of the resorts in Jamaica. Everyone has meals in the same area, but all are dressed at this time, even though you may see some outfits that you don't see when you go out in the states. There is a PJ party night, but it doesn't begin until 11:00 P.M. There are some pretty wild outfits there, but if it's too much for you, you don't have to go to it. Then there is Toga night, which is held in the main dining room where everyone tries to come up with an attractive toga - some are more skimpy than others. If these types of adult parties bother anyone, then they probably shouldn't be there in the first place. The way I see it - All other resorts have the same look and feel, but Hedo is for adults with an open mind who want to have a lot of fun and laughs and craziness with other like-minded people, and you can do all of that without any drugs or swinging.

Thank you Jenny. Very well put. Thta's exactly it. Don't listen to people that have not been there but heard about it. Remember by the time some people get home the stories have a tendency to change, grow, and have only a tint of truth in them. Add some alcohol to it and he/she will tell you about all the orgies that are going on there. NOT! <BR>Celebrate your partner in an open minden, fun and loving atmosphere and meet the greatest people ever - that's hedo for you.

My husband and I booked a Superclubs surprise package. What this means is you get a discount rate but you can be placed at a Breezes, Grand Lido or Hedonism in Jamaica. We did a lot of homework before booking this vacation and were pleasantly surprised to find out that Hedo was not a sex crazed, swinging resort where only the Playboy bunnies and the dirty old men go. No offense to Playboy we do receive their magazine. It was the first place we saw Hedo and were turned off by the article. Thank God for DennyP.com We found out what Hedo is really all about. <BR> <BR>We were fortunate enough to end up at Hedonism II where we met some of the most beautiful people in the world. I do not mean only external beauty but internal beauty too. We decided on our first day to go to the nude beach and if we did not like it we could go back to the prude side. Within moments, we struck up conversation with the couple next to us. We were not asked to swap partners but we were asked to join them at dinner with some people that they had met. Everyday this group grew larger. Everyone was very much into their own partner at bedtime but during the time that we all spent together it was just like going out to dinner with friends at home or to the local pool. When it was time to go back to our rooms, everyone went to their own room with their significant other that they came to the resort with. My husband and I found the place to be very romantic and sensual but that was between us and in private. Will you see open sex at Hedo? You might. Is it one big swapping orgy? Absolutely not. It is a great party place that has something to do somewhere twenty four hours a day. Unlike the resort that we went to last year in the Riviera Maya. After dinner, everyone went to the evening entertainment show and then went to bed by 10pm. This is not a vacation to me. I want to be able to party and have conversations of substance with fun but educated people. I want to have choices also. At Hedo there are many things to do in the day and night. Daytime activities are the same as many other resorts. There are many adult oriented games but this is an adult resort and that is why we go there. I do not want to listen to children screaming and crying on the beach while I am trying to relax and get some sun. I do not want young teenagers frolicking and being stupid in the pool while I am trying to talk with some friends. I want to be able to relax and have a good time. This is the same reason that people get a baby sitter so they can go out to dinner and a movie or to the club with adult friends. In conclusion, I loved Hedonism and will be a repeat client. I highly recommend it to anyone that is looking for a fun vacation with some of the best people you will ever met and not sleep with.

Hedonism is nothing but one big sex romp. People walk around naked--all day--everywhere. The copulate while they eat and frequently urinate in the pools and hot tubs. There are 10 times as many men there as women and they are all swingers who have sex at least fifteen times a day with a different woman each time. The staff consists entirely of dark skinned and well muscled men, who, through the course of a week, will have sex with your wife at least twenty-five times. STD protection is only used half of the time, but even at that, there are used condoms lying all over the resort. I even found a diaphragm in my soup at dinner but couldn't get it out of the bowl--the table was shaking violently with the motion of the eight woman orgy (all playboy bunnies) that was taking place on our table top. <BR> <BR>

I think you all need to look up the word Hedonism... <BR> <BR>The definition says it all...

I agree. People want to celebrate "anyhitng goes sex" like its some kind of diversity acceptance gig <BR>when its really just a bunch of weirdos. <BR>As Dr Laura says, Diversity used to be all about accepting people from different cultural backgrounds: Italian, African, Irish, Jewish, Palestian, Russian, etc. Now, Diversity is supposed to be about lowering ones moral standards and accepting anything that anybody wants to do. If you do it, it is Diversity and it should be accepted. Bunk to that. Why do you think half the people in the US thought Clintons behavior was OK. It was a "hey, its his life" kind of thing. The DIversity crowd has a become a group of people with no moral compass. And people wonder why there are school shootings!

I agree, this is an average property to anyone who has any travel experience, and knows the difference between McD's and a fine Paris restaurant. Some of the guests think that a nineteen dollar Mr. Coffee in a room and a piece of jerk chicken are anemnities found only in the finest Parisian hotels. It is by no stretch of the imagination above average. I too, would venture to say that if it wasn't for the nudity and probably even more for the "freedom" to play out whatever your kink is, that many of these repeat guests would go somewhere else. Many of them would camp out on the raft just to be there. In his quest to find even more examples of world dysfuntionality, Jerry Springer has even found this tropical "paradise."

It sickens me to read the negativity on this thread about HEDO II. IT IS NOT A FREE FOR ALL ORGY. My wife and I spent 10 nights there, had a great time. At no time were we forced to do something we did not want to do. YES, there are people having sex at the resort. This is a place where a couple can re-kindle the romance in their life. We felt totally comfortable at HEDO II. In contrast, when we spent one night at Sandals, MoBay, we felt very uncomfortable around the staff. Go, enjoy, and have alot of fun.

You know, Anonymous, in most web forums nowadays you would not be allowed to post. How easy it is to insult and berate people when you have no identity and no email address. You shoot your mouth off and are untraceable. <BR> <BR>I never could have imagined that my enjoyment of nudity and some limited open sexuality was responsible for school shootings! <BR> <BR>Your behavior on this forum and your hiding behind anonymity and no e-mail address are a fine example of immorality. Why don't you put your real self on the line here. My moral compass is just fine, thank you, but yours could use swinging (pun intended, but you won't get it if you're not a boater). <BR>

YOU GO GIRL !!!!!!!!

This is for MmRibs. I saw your posting at www.dennyp.com under Hedonism III. I can't believe you have such a nerve asking what Hedo III is like and what kind of people (ages) there are since you and your *gasp* 18 years old girlfriend might end up there AFTER you posted such a mean message above about Hedo II. That shows YOU HAD NEVER BEEN TO HEDO II BEFORE!! "...diaphragm in my soup at dinner but couldn't get it out of the soup" "Playboy bunnies" <BR>"The staff consists entirely of dark <BR>skinned and well muscled men, who, through the course of a week, will have sex with your wife at least twenty-five times." "One big sex romp" Why do you say such things when you have never been there before? Why do you lie? <BR> <BR>Respect! <BR>

Hey, guys, was I the only one who understood he was WAY kidding? His post was totally tongue in cheek, and I thought it was hilarious.

Regarding swingers going to Hedo.. something to think about...they also belong to your PTA and they shop at your grocery store. They have kids, homes, and mortgages <BR> <BR>Your next door neighbors...the ones little Billy slept over last weekend with his little friend Johnnie...they might be vacation-nudists. <BR> <BR>My point is that all of the types of people that you associate with on a daily basis are the types that go to Hedo. <BR> <BR>We've personaly met doctors, lawyers, police officers, FBI agents, truck drivers, corporate CEOs and CFOs, a couple who were 5th and 7th grade teachers, a Burger King trainer...some just don't tell you, some actualy lie and tell you that they went someplace else. <BR> <BR>You CAN enjoy Hedo and still be mainstream...most are.

This is the most incredible collection of Bullshit that I have ever seen. I think the people who are putting down that it is full of swinging men, and constant orgies are just posting their own wishes and fantasies. All dark skinned men with muscles??? That cracks me up. Imoral people without standards??? Where do these morons that write this crap come from? Get a grip, and get realistic, and quit dreaming and fantasizing. That isn't what it is about, or what goes on there. If you are too judgemental without ever actually being there, I am glad you don't want to go, because when my wife of 15 years, and I, who aren't swingers, orgy participaters, or drug addicts go there, we want to meet real people without hang ups, or are closed minded morons.

Jeebus people, I was being sarcastic. I thought that was pretty obvious; I guess with the amount of ridiculous Hedo flaming that goes on here it blended in. I can't believe some people took it seriously. <BR>Diaphragm in my soup? Sheesh. <BR> <BR> <BR>

Oh and Maggie--I never was at DennyP asking what ages of people went there. You seem to be pretty bad at reading posts. I simply stated our ages--so that others going would have an idea of what general age group goes. <BR> <BR>Respect

mmribs, <BR>I guess I owe you an apology. I was so hung up on all the negativity that your post did kinda blend in. Sorry. I just reread it and it IS pretty hillarious.

Heheheh no problem, mon. Unfortunately, it DID sort of blend in. :-)

Average property at best. As far as the activities, it has the usual that you would expect at a Caribbean resort, however the real draw appears to be the ability to act out whatever your "kink" is. A visit to some other sites and the various message boards should give one an idea of the interests and intellectual capacity of the guests. A casual reading should indicate that it is different than Sans Souci, Sandals, or other all inclusives.

Kink is the right word to describe HEDO.