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mist Mar 24th, 2003 07:25 PM

where is everbody?
What happenned to all the Fodorites? I have not been on this site for some months and it has become so quiet!! It looks like now that people have to actually register, there is practically nobody anymore!! There used to be replies and postings every minute or so, now it's more like every 1/2 hour...

GaryA Mar 24th, 2003 08:55 PM

The Canadian site is always quiet until mid-spring. If you check the Europe site there are postings every minute. But it's true now that the trolls are no longer able to work their 'magic' it has cut down on some of the activity. Do you miss that?

mist Mar 25th, 2003 05:12 AM

Thanks Gary,<BR><BR>Oh well, it's true that there is a lot more activity in the USA and Europe forums...and I certainly don't miss the Trolls :).

BAK Mar 25th, 2003 07:20 AM

The government of the province of Ontario thinks it is time to get touristy, and today gave out a tulip, a map, and two brochures about Ontario in the spring, to commuters getting off the commuter trains in Toronto.<BR><BR>The brochures are full of interesting things to do and see; in contrast, it sure was a cold winter in southern Ontario and people who stayed home were much more comfortable., Even serious skiers did not want to go down the hills in the very cold weather.<BR><BR>Scare stories about border crossings (they may be accurate scare stories, by the way) and normal travel-chicken syndrome may have kept some people from thinking about trips to Canada. <BR><BR>Canada remains a nice place to visit, and as Americans avoid Europe but want someplace to go that does not have a Bob Evans and a Shoney's on every corner, they are certainly welcome here, where there's McDonald's and Burger King, of course, but they can experience a foreign -- to them -- culture with Harvey's, Swiss Chalet and Tim Horton's.<BR><BR>They give up biscuits and gravy and get poutine instead. What a world in which we live!<BR><BR>At 10:20 a.m. in Toronto on Tuesday, March 25, it is very, very grey, and looks as if the skies are going to open up in the biggest rainstorm of the year.<BR><BR>BAK

LJ Mar 25th, 2003 02:27 PM

In Newfoundland, everything that happens after March 21st that isn't an actual blizzard, we label SPRING. And its here...temperatures above freezing, lots more boats in and out of the harbour here in St. John's, talk of hiking the East Coast Trails (instead of snowmobiling them...) Yep, definitely signs of spring...think about my beautiful province, if you are thinking about visiting the Canadian East.

icithecat Mar 25th, 2003 08:08 PM

Most of us are still hibernating in our igloos, alternating between speaking in French and chewing on whale blubber.

bob_brown Mar 25th, 2003 08:49 PM

If somebody wants to talk about the Canadian Rockies, I am here to do it.<BR>I will be available until mid July when I fly to Calgary for a visit to the Canadian Rockies, again.<BR>

mist Mar 25th, 2003 09:23 PM

hey Bob!<BR><BR>I sure want to talk about the Canadian Rockies since I'm heading that way this coming August!

pattysuericia Mar 25th, 2003 09:49 PM

Anyone here from Montreal?

mist Mar 26th, 2003 06:25 AM

Patty,<BR>I am from Montreal

pattysuericia Mar 26th, 2003 09:15 AM

Hi Mist<BR><BR> Whereabouts in montreal? Which part of the city?

bob_brown Mar 26th, 2003 09:47 AM

Well, my fingers are flexible and my brain is less numb than usual, so fire away with questions. <BR>I can talk about the museum at Drumheller, too. And the Ukranian Village at Androssen east of Edmonton.<BR>We had a great time visiting both.<BR>

mist Mar 26th, 2003 01:23 PM

Hi Patty,<BR><BR>I live on the island of Montreal. What did you want to know about Montreal?<BR><BR>Hi Bob,<BR><BR>I want to know what are the places I should not miss while I'm in Banff, Jasper, Kamloops, Whistler, Vancouver and Victoria this summer. I also want some suggestions on places to stay ($100 or less) and suggestions on restaurants.

bob_brown Mar 26th, 2003 02:49 PM

I will confine my comments to the Rockies. I never saw much in Kamloops to keep me there. Victoria has Butchard Gardens and the Royal BC Museum close to the harbor. Those are the two premier attractions I have seen.<BR><BR>For Banff, Jasper, and Lake Louise are you talking Canadian dollars and less than $100 a night? If so, no way I know of unless you stay out hotels and look for bed and breakfasts. In Jasper there are Parks Approved accommodations in private homes that vary in quality and price rather greatly. Take a look here:<BR><BR><BR><BR>I stayed in one last year called Geike Suite. It was fair - good perhaps. Separate bedroom, good bed, couch, chair, eating space, etc. It was a basement conversion, and had a low ceiling.<BR><BR>I can not/will not recommend a place in Jasper to eat. The highest priced ones are ok, the cheaper ones are take your pick. <BR><BR>Around Lake Louise, the cheapest place I know of is the Mountaineer Lodge which runs about $200 in season for a non descript double room.<BR><BR>Around Banff, I cannot say because I avoid the town site itself.<BR><BR>Along the Icefields Parkway the Crossing is an ok place. Nothing great, but well placed for people who want to linger along the Parkway like I do.<BR><BR>Around Lake Louise, I find an overnight unit in Field, BC, which is about 14-15 miles from Lake Louise. Many of the private home owners have outfitted their basements as rental units. Mt. Stephen Guesthouse is ok to ok++. It has a separate bedroom, good kitchen, eating area. Costs are less than Lake Louise by a goodly margin. <BR><BR>The best place in Field is more than $100 per night.<BR><BR>The problem with Field is that there are few places to eat except for the Truffle Pig, which has a lot of people around it, and the kicking Horse Lodge.<BR>Rooms there run better than $138 Canadian.<BR> <BR>I am much more fluent in discussing what to see. But that depends on how much of a hiker you are!<BR>

JackLanghorne Mar 26th, 2003 07:19 PM

I'm from Hampstead, Quebec. Well now because of our undemocratic forced mergers, I suppose I live in Montreal.

mist Mar 26th, 2003 08:02 PM

Yes Jack, I lost my city to with these forced mergers but remember...the government knows best what is good for us...I could go on and on but this is a travel site so lets not get into politics.<BR><BR>Thanks Bob, I am talking Canadian money for what it is worth :(<BR>I was looking into Canmore as an alternative to Banff for lodging and Hinton for Jasper.<BR><BR>So far in the Jasper and Banff area intend to visit the following:<BR>„X Maligne Canyon trails (gratuit)<BR>„X Athabaska Falls<BR>„X Columbia Icefield <BR>„X Peyto Lake<BR>„X Lake Louise<BR>„X Lake Moraine<BR>„X Hoodoo Creek<BR>„X Cave &amp; Basin<BR>„X Bow rapids<BR>„X Banff Upper Hot Springs <BR>„X Dam near Canmore <BR>„X Johnston Canyon<BR>and <BR>„X Head-Smashed-in-Buffalo Jump<BR>„X Drumheller<BR>„X Badland<BR>if we have time...<BR><BR>Am I missing anything?<BR>

pattysuericia Mar 26th, 2003 08:05 PM

Mist I, too, live on the island of montreal.

bob_brown Mar 27th, 2003 07:27 AM

I have a slightly different set of priorities. The Royal Tyrrell Museum of Paleontology is a World Heritage Site, and fascinates me. I have been there twice and think there is no place quite like it. Of course, one has to be a palentology buff to like it. It is a mono focused museum, but it is the world's foremost museum of paleontology with some of the most noted palentologists in the world housed there as a base of operations. <BR><BR>I would dump some of that stuff you have listed and visit Takkakaw Falls in Yoho National Park. It is just over the line from Lake Louise and the most beautiful fall in that area. And Emerald Lake is just down the road.<BR>On a scale of 1 to 10 I would rate it a 3, just under Peyto. Lake Louise and Moraine rate a 1. Nothing I ever saw beats them; Lake McArthur and Lake O'Hara rival them, but nothing quite tops them. For Lake Louise, try to get there early for the angle of the sun, and hopefully you can beat most of the 200,000 tourists that pour out of buses every day.<BR><BR>Also, the Angel Glacier flowing off the north flank of Mount Edith Cavell near Jasper is quite spectacular. <BR><BR>I rate those two attractions right up there with Lake Louise and Moraine Lake. Peyto Lake is also pretty. You view it from the heights and on a sunny day it is quite dramatic. Unfortunately, I walked out there in the rain and my view was obscured.<BR>But, I plan to return!!!<BR><BR>And along the Icefields Parkway, there are so many world class views that you will become saturated! Mile after mile of incredible mountain scenes. <BR><BR>I have driven it both ways several times, and I will be there again this summer! <BR><BR>To be quite honest, you have better offers than those rapids and Cave and Basin. I went there once, and for the life of me I don't remember it.<BR><BR>Hinton is 50 miles plus from Jasper.<BR>It will take you a while to drive it because some of the route is in the park, and people stop at every moose.<BR><BR>I never considered staying there for that reason.

Craig Mar 27th, 2003 07:47 AM

I have noticed that traffic is down on the US and Asia sites in the past week. Perhaps Fodorites are following the Iraq war on one of those news sites instead of posting here.

JoeyJoJoJr_Shabadoo Mar 27th, 2003 07:57 AM

<BR>Glad to hear everyone is thawing out. We had a bad winter here in New York too. Are there any Quebec/Maritime experts around? I'm looking for some place with lots of natural beauty for a family vacation this summer within driving distance of the NY metro area. Thinking maybe Gaspe peninsula but that might be pushing our time limit. Any suggestions appreciated.

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