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Ontario/Quebec-planning scenic fydrive in the Fall

Ontario/Quebec-planning scenic fydrive in the Fall

Nov 17th, 2004, 02:23 PM
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Ontario/Quebec-planning scenic fydrive in the Fall

Having got some helpful comment from "bmacdon" and "HogtownJim" I am starting a new thread setting out a proposed 3 week itinerary for next Fallbr />
Toronto 4 nights
(Collect car on Day 5)
Niagara on the Lake 2 nights
Kingston (via ferry at Glenora) 2 nights
Montreal 3 or 4 nights
Quebec 3 nights
Laurentian Mountains (Mt Tremblant or Montebello) 1 or 2 nights
Ottowa 3 nights
Huntsville (through Algonquin Park) 2 nts
Back to Toronto airport

We want to make the most of our time and enjoy both the cities and the countryside scenery and I would be grateful on comments if this looks a good and achievable trip,is it about the right time in each place,what we should try and do at our stops,and recommendations for friendly and comfortable inns/small hotels to stay. Any other tips welcome also.
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Nov 17th, 2004, 05:22 PM
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Could be a long day's journey from Niagara to Kingston (QEW & Highway 401 through Toronto can be slow)and with little meandering time in lovely Prince Edward County. Consider Merrill Inn in Picton. www.merrillinn.com

http://www.bbcanada.com/ lots of inns and B&B
Maybe book the Shaw Festival in Niagara
Also sample some Canadian history between Kingston and Montreal at Upper Canada Village
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Nov 17th, 2004, 05:43 PM
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The weekend of Oct 8-10 2005 is Canada's Thanksgiving holiday.
Some resorts and hotels ie Tremblant/Huntsville can be busy.
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Nov 17th, 2004, 10:51 PM
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This is a great itinerary. You should have a great time.

I would move Niagara on the Lake to the end of the journey to relax before leaving Canada - no sense in loosing all your cash at the Casino when you can do it Montreal!

There is a wine country trail leaving from Hamilton to Niagara on the Lake that is a more relaxing route than driving down the QEW freeway. Watch for the signs on the QEW as you pass through the Hamilton (aka the Hammer). The region produces great wine and has several estate wineries with good restaurants.

I would then also plan to take Highway 2 from Toronto to Kingston which follows Lake Ontario rather than negotiate the 401 to Kingston.

If you are interested in vintage aircraft and seeing one of the few flying Lancaster WW II bombers, drop by the air museum in Hamilton located next to the Hamilton's airport. There is also a Bollingbroke bomber that was fished out of a Norwegian lake and is being restored at Canadian Forces Base Trenton Ontario on the way to Kingston.

Kingston, Ottawa and Quebec City are in part military towns. In Kingston, the Signals museum, Fort Henry and museum at the Royal Military College are the highlights. Quebec City is home to the Royal 22nd Regiment (the Vandoos) in the Citidel. The museum has three Victoria Crosses on display.
(The first Canadian to win a Victoria Cross was in the Charge of the Light Brigade during the Crimean War)

When in Ottawa, be sure to visit the Canadian War Memorial and the grave of the unknown soldier.

Finally, on a another military note, to better understanding of the early history of Quebec City, Kingston and Niagara on the Lake, I would recommend reading up on the following topics:

a) on how the British defeated the French at Quebec City on the Plains of Abraham in 1759 during the Seven Years War (ignited in part by one George Washington). Key figures were General Wolf, General Montcalm and James Cook.
In my books, the Quebec City campaign is one of the greatest British military achievements.

b) the United Empire Loyalists.
c) the War of 1812 and General Brock.

Once you've read up on all this, discover the role of Montreal in the construction of the Canadian Pacific Railway. This legacy still remains in the form of mansions and Victorian office buildings in downtown Montreal.

Class dismissed. Do your homework!
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Nov 20th, 2004, 01:49 PM
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In my humble opinion, Mt Tremblant is the most overrated tourist spot in Quebec. It's only popular because of its relative closeness to Montreal.

If you want to see good scenery, try Charlevoix while you're in Quebec City. You'll pass in front of:
-Montmorency fall (touristy but hey, it's there!)
-île d'Orléans
-Ste-Anne-de-Beaupré church
-Mt Ste-Anne (boring IMO)
-Cap Tourmente (Snow Geese, early october)
-Ste-Anne canyon (nice but overpriced)

Stop at an art Gallery in Baie-St-Paul, take road 362 towards La Malbaie, drive around Ile-aux-Coudres, stop at the Charlevoix casino (if you're into that).

You can drive up to the Saguenay fjord, which is interesting in itself, but the drive past La Malbaie is less interesting.

You can track back on road 362 or take road 138. The 138 is nothing to write home about but you need to take it to get to La Malbaie river Haute-Gorge or Grand-Jardins parks.

Jacques-Cartier park is close to Quebec City and I think nicer than Mt Tremblant as well. If you hike, try "Les Loups" trail up to the first viewpoint. Try it very early in the morning.

I'd go to Charlevoix 100 times before going back to Mt-Tremblant. I also prefer La Mauricie park to Mt Tremblant. I don't know about Montebello.

See www.sepaq.com for Quebec park except for La Mauricie, which is a federal park.
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Nov 23rd, 2004, 09:20 AM
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I presume that you'd like to be in the midst of your travels when the fall foliage peaks. It's always a bit iffy as to the timing. We were in Ontario over this year's Canadian Thanksgiving weekend, ending up at Algonquin Park. The peak of the foliage occurred at this time and it was spectacular, including the Madawaska Valley just to the south of the Park. But we did the same trip in 2001 at the same time and the colors had peaked the week before, though there was still nice colors around. Given the length of your itinerary, you should have no troubles from the perspective of fall foliage.
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