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missypie Jul 26th, 2007 12:44 PM

How were you treated in Quebec?
 
When we were planning a trip to Quebec, a guy at work who was from western Canada told us that people in Quebec would be rude to us because we didn't speak French. We did not find that to be the case at all. However, during the trip we spoke to another Canadian guy who said that folks were rude to his family because they didn't speak French. I concluded at the time that if the folks in Quebec know you are American, they don't expect you to speak French, but if they know you are Canadian, they get irritated if you don't speak French.

Fast forward to this year. We were in Maine in line at a store behind an American couple who told the sales clerk that they had just been to Quebec and that the "French people there were disgusting." They didn't elaborate on any particular experience, other than to say they were the rudest people they've ever seen.

I don't quite know what would have to happen to me to brand an entire province of people "disgusting." How were YOU treated in Quebic?

kireland Jul 26th, 2007 01:12 PM

I have no idea what the 'disgusting' comment meant, but I imagine it is more a reflection of what the couple who made the comment are like than it is about Quebeckers.

I have travelled extensively throughout Quebec and it is a fallacy that you will be treated rudely if you do not speak French. Walk around with a smile on your face and treat locals kindly and the same will be returned (wherever you go in the world I imagine). Please do not let the comments of a few (and likley a prejudiced few) deter you from visiting Quebec. You will love it.


kja Jul 26th, 2007 01:38 PM

I was treated wonderfully, and I don't speak French.

laverendrye Jul 26th, 2007 02:08 PM

I think that the notion that you will be rudely treated in Quebec if you don't speak French is utter nonsense. kireland put it well that it reflects more on the person making the comment than on Quebeckers.

In Montreal, in fact, it's often likely that people will switch to English if they sense that the other person's French is not fluent.

There are parts of the province, however, where people speak only French, and their failure to speak English is construed by some as rudeness.

I wouldn't let the comments of a couple of disgruntled English-speaking Canadians put you off your visit.




missypie Jul 26th, 2007 02:38 PM

Just to be clear, my own visit was several years ago and people were great to us. I was just so surprised to overhear the people in Quebec described as "disgusting." That is such a strong term, as if the entire population was relieving itself in the street or something.

I will say that the couple in question was TERRIBLY dressed. The middle aged guy was in a white undershirt with the sleeves cut out; the shirt was stretched tight over his gut. His wife didn't look any nicer. I don't think they were impoverished, because they were buying things at an expensive store.

I sort of wondered if they had tried to dine in nice restaurants in Quebec dressed like that, and were perhaps turned away.

aucho53 Jul 26th, 2007 04:40 PM

Hey missypie,

I live in Montreal, and will certainly admit that there "some" quebecois who do get irritated when they are not spoken to in French, I've encountered it personally. However, those people are rare and I don't think they should be represented as what all Quebecois people are like.

Montreal is a tourist friendly city, as is much of Quebec, and with a few exceptions the people are welcoming and accomodating. It's too bad some people have the nerve to go around branding an entire group of people because of one negative experience they had, which was probably brought about by their own actions anyways.

Enjoy Quebec!!

Layla %%-

cd Jul 27th, 2007 06:22 AM

We were on a road trip when we visited Quebec. We had car trouble in the old city and the people could not have been nicer or more helpful in getting us to a garage and finding someone there who spoke English.

SFCA Jul 28th, 2007 09:01 AM

Same here. Amongst the nicest people. I think it's easier for someone from outside Quebec to get along there than it is for someone from Quebec to get help in their language in Canada. Comments I hear from Canadian coworkers make my eyes roll as they seem to reflect baseless opinion and not fact. Maybe they're just frustrated that they can't communicate in a second language?

PaulRabe Jul 28th, 2007 02:13 PM

My experience in Quebec was the same as any other place (amongst the fifteen or so) where I am not fluent in the major language. Before I go, I learn a few terms in that language, as well as expected courtesies in that culture (for instance, it's not enough to know that the French greeting is "Bonjour," you must know that this greeting is expected to be the first words in ANY conversation). I then begin any meeting with words in their language. In every case, the unspoken response has (basically) been "Okay, you've spoken my language out of politeful respect. Now I'll speak English so we can communicate." The one time this didn't happen was in Quebec province, where a deli sandwich maker, who apparently knew no English, wanted to know what to put on my sandwich. We actually ended up smiling as she would point to something, and I would say either "Oui" or "Non."

KathyNZ Jul 28th, 2007 03:10 PM

I was in Quebec City in June this year and I returned there from last year because I loved it so much. I read French very well but do not speak it well but always attempt it and after a few days I get better, (no one to practise with at home here). The French people always appreciate a few words in French and it's not difficult to memorise some before you leave home. The French in general and this includes Quebec are a little more formal with strangers to begin with which sometimes comes across as being a bit stand offish. I found the people there to be very helpful and friendly, it is the old story and one to live by -
'Do unto others as you will have them do unto you'

Vttraveler Jul 29th, 2007 08:32 AM

We go to Montreal and the Eastern Townships frequently and I always find people very patient with my very rusty French and polite to my husband who does not speak any French
We have been to several of the smaller museums in Montreal where people did not speak English and exhibits were in french and everyone takes great pains to explain things to me.

bob_brown Jul 29th, 2007 09:59 AM

In Quebec city and on the Gaspé we were treated cordially by the people who could speak English. We ate at a restaurant along the north shore of the peninsula where the woman in charge was a model of politeness and warmth toward non French speakers from the US.

We stayed at a B and B and the owner was trying to learn English and was most cordial and helpful.

Several times the language barrier arose, but we communicated enough to get what we needed.

In Quebec city, we ate at a restaurant that had people on the staff who spoke English quite well, so knowing what to order was no problem.

The tourist bureau staff was also most helpful, as you would expect.

bknyjohn Jul 29th, 2007 11:55 AM

We had a few rude people in Montreal. Many people were very nice, but it only takes a few to begin to chip away at what should have been a good vacation. It started with the arrogant Canadian Customs Agent at the Montreal Airport. He was one of the most rude persons I ever came across in my travels. I have been to almost every state in the U.S., most of the Canadian Provinces, much of Europe and France a number of times. This guy was the nastiest person I ever had to deal with.
I love going to France and I really love going to Paris. I would not return to Montreal. It was my fifth and final vacation to that city.

Lord_Mesron Jul 30th, 2007 07:42 AM

When my brother and I visited Montreal from the U.S. a few years ago, we had a great time. Neither of us speak French, though I had a French phrase book with me. I tried to use a few simple French phrases while we were there, but almost always found someone who spoke English to help us out. They did appreciate my attempt at French, though. I wouldn't let this 'ignorant' couple ruin your trip if you are planning to go.

Jackie44 Aug 3rd, 2007 05:51 AM

We were in Montreal several years ago and were very impressed with how helpful the locals were. We were sitting on the subway when an announcement was made in French only. Whatever was said brought groans of outrage, we just looked bewildered. The person across the aisle must have noticed because she leaned over and translated for us. The same thing happened up top - the Metro employee explained everything in French to the group and then came over and explained again in English.
We just returned from Quebec City yesterday and found everyone there to be charming and helpful. I look forward to returning - Quebecois are funny, friendly and welcoming.

DennyO Aug 4th, 2007 07:47 AM

I have heard the "Quebecers are rude" line so often in my life. But, I usually find the rejoinder of proof is the real telling part, which is like this: "They all know how to speak English you know, but they just ignore you to feel superior." Or words to that effect. Yes, in Montreal, or the National Capital Region, likely the majority of people can use enough English to get by in a pinch. But not everyone, and not elsewhere to speak of.

I usually think, how would these folks feel if they worked in a store in Barrie, Ontario, and a Quebec couple came in expecting to to be served in French? Yes, they'd think that couple was rude, not even making an effort.

I had an experience several years in Chicoutimi, which is the hotbed of Quebec separatism. Having some brake trouble, I stopped at a garage, and found that with some sincere effort putting words together with my high school French, and the mechanic doing similar with likey his high school English, we managed to communicate fine, if a bit slowly. We laughed at some of our word goofs along the way. It turned out to be a fun experience for me. And he fixed my problem well too.

PamSF Aug 7th, 2007 09:31 AM

We were treated just fine. I do speak some French but that did not seem to be an issue. We laughed as I purchased a coronation(QEII) cigarette box and felt as if I were buying contraband:)

I say a place is what you make it.


smcgown Aug 7th, 2007 09:51 AM

2 years ago we were in Quebec City and on up the St Lawrence as far as Taddosac. We were treated perfectly and we loved the trip. Our French is dismal at best and everyone was super nice to us. It was a wonderful trip & we would go back anytime we can. BTW we are from Texas and Texans do not have such a great reputation in Canada or anywhere else!

mlanoue Aug 7th, 2007 11:40 AM

My wife and I had a great time in Montreal a month ago. I had learned only a rudimentary amount of French prior to the trip and quickly learned that I was way out of my league in keeping up with everybody. But, we had a great time at restaurants and bars asking the people we met how to say certain things.

My wife was more intimidated than I was with French. Her very first time ever speaking it was when trying to buy a Metro pass. She started by explaining (in French) that she didn't speak the language very well and spoke English. The man behind the window began to kid her about not speaking French. He said "And why don't you speak in French? You are in Montreal--you speak French!"

He thought he was being funny, but my nervous wife walked away and started crying. When I moved in to speak to him about the passes, he quickly asked me if she was okay and wanted me to bring her back so he could apologize. He told her that he admired her for trying, and that many people who have lived in the city their whole lives don't even make the effort she did. He was nice about it, but she still felt a bit demoralized by the whole thing.

But, on the whole, everybody was extremely nice to us.

Mazey Aug 7th, 2007 12:07 PM

I speak little French, enough to say the basics, and every time I go to Montreal I have no problem. Everyone I have run into is as friendly as they are in any city.

danon Aug 7th, 2007 03:07 PM

Please stop worrying - Montreal is not Paris. Most Canadians don't speak a word of French ( some even live in Quebec !)
and have a good time visit Montreal.

onthegogo Aug 10th, 2007 08:15 AM

My DH and I were in Montreal a couple of years ago for a few days..our first time. We're from the US, but I'm originally from Canada-raised there. Anyway, we had been taking French classes in anticipation of a trip to France. In Monreal we tried many times to use the little vocabulary we had, but as soon as we uttered a few words, the Montrealer addressed us in English. Only one experience we had was strange...we took a tour of downtown in one of those buses and the guide/driver made many very hostile remarks about the CDN government and the monarchy. Since I was born & raised in Canada and spent a number of my adults years there...I could follow what he was saying, but I could see from expressions on other visitors' faces - they were surprised at the attitude. However, this was an isolated incident for us--was a totally personal attitude that guy had I guess. Otherwise -- we were treated extremely well and can hardly wait to have an opportunity to get to Quebec City to experience that.

alise007 Aug 12th, 2007 07:56 AM

We spent 10 days in Montreal and QC end of May/June with our 1 yr old son. Neither one of us speak a lick of French.

I found that if I said Bonjour that people would assume I spoke French and start speaking in French to which I would give them a BLANK STARE! I would have to then say "I am sorry, I don't speak French." If I said Hello then they knew I was either American and/or didn't speak French then they would speak English to me. I didn't want to be rude but it seemed to complicate things if I even attempted!

We encountered several people on trains that would ask questions about our toddler and his red hair or ask his age etc...in French and usually someone sitting nearby would translate. Everyone speaks cute baby!

gentlewoman Jul 1st, 2016 01:19 PM

I have had multiple experiences over a period of 8 days where people began speaking French to me in Montreal, where I was visiting as a tourist. (mind you, these are not interactions while purchasing a good or a service, but voluntary conversations initiated by individuals). I apologized kindly and explained that I don't speak French. Without an exception, I was treated in a pretty unfriendly manner after that. Some people monologued me in French which I had just told them that I did not understand. They might easily be cursing at me at that stage. A considerable number of these people also asked me why I did not speak French since I was in Quebec. Never in my entire life had I encountered such strange logic. Strangers who did not know a single thing about me, except that I did not speak French, came up to me and demanded that I speak to them in their language. I was not aware of the high expectations of the people of Quebec from their tourists. Further, I am not even a native speaker of English and this makes me think of these extremely obnoxious people visiting my home country and my people struggling to give them directions etc. although none of those tourists from Quebec would speak my language. This thread seems to be a pretty old one. Quebec nationalism may have transcended to a disproportionate and illogical level nowadays. It is a shame both for the rude and seemingly unhappy people and the city itself.

laverendrye Jul 2nd, 2016 02:50 AM

What a bizarre post. A first time poster tops a 9-year old post to describe a situation which in my experience utterly defies the reality of Montreal and the behaviour of Montrealers. I take this account with a grain of salt.

eliztravels2 Jul 2nd, 2016 03:34 AM

I’m with you on this one, laverendrye. The rest of the post makes interesting reading, though. As an Anglophone Canadian I am pleased to know my Francophone fellow Canadians are seen as just courteous, friendly and helpful as I have found them to be.

Too bad about the rude customs official, but that can happen anywhere.

muskoka Jul 2nd, 2016 08:45 PM

I am able to speak only Parisian French but never have I had an unpleasant experience in Quebec, which I adore. Many times, I have been asked to speak more slowly and there have been times when I just couldn't understand what was being said, especially in the more rural regions, but that never stopped a conversation!

I have a good deal of trouble believing what the new poster has written.

kanunu Jul 2nd, 2016 09:13 PM

Been to Montreal lots of times, even worked there for a month once. My high school French has mostly been forgotten (decades ago), but you could always find a way to communicate.
Haven't been treated any differently there, than anywhere else.... fine, in other words.
Having said that, I remember visiting Expo 67 as a high schooler, and I thought I detected people looking down their noses at us, once, as we were speaking English on the subway. I chalk that feeling up to youthful paranoia, on my part.

I also question the new poster's 'opinion'.

Erick_L Jul 11th, 2016 12:41 AM

I live in Montreal and have a hard time getting served in French. A coworker who moved here 15 years ago still won't speak a word of French. Our office was taken over by an Ottawa company and since then, everything is in English. When I asked for pay slips and insurance papers in French, I was told to suck it up. I can't do anything since we're under federal law. My own government won't let me work in an official language. So yes, I might give an annoyed face when someone doesn't even try to say "bonjour" and "merci".

PaulRabe Jul 11th, 2016 05:55 AM

Sorry, but I seem to be having trouble with posting, so I am doing a test. Please completely ignore this.

kja Jul 11th, 2016 08:17 PM

@ PaulRabe: Have you seen this thread? It might explain some things and help you proceed. Basically, what you need to do is cut and paste from a word document until "preview" shows a problem, then tweak, try again, tweak again, etc. Painful! But it works...
http://www.fodors.com/community/foru...rope-forum.cfm

PaulRabe Jul 12th, 2016 07:03 AM

KJA -- just so you know, my problem was limited to one posting on the Ireland Board. Over ten tries for preview, all with no response -- no error message, no rejection, nothing. I just clicked on [Preview] and NOTHING happened. I started wondering if I had been banned or something, so I tested here -- obviously, no problem. My inability to post in the Ireland Board lasted until last night, and then just vanished.

I sent a request for help to Fodors, who said they would look into it. I have no idea if they did anything, if my PC reboot removed a problem specific to Ireland, or if the problem just went away when Fodors upgraded.

girlonthego Jul 19th, 2016 05:51 PM

I was in Montreal and QC in both 2014 and 2015 and I do not speak French. I only know a few pleasantries. I found everyone spoke English and was very pleasant and nice to me. I really enjoyed my trips to the French speaking Canada.

belt_lab Jul 19th, 2016 08:30 PM

I travel to Quebec at-least once or twice a year for business and have found the people to be very friendly and extremely pleasant.


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