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ElendilPickle May 16th, 2004 09:29 PM

NZ Trip Report April 2004
We sent out four rather lengthy trip reports to friends and family in the US while we were in New Zealand. I've edited them a bit and included things like hotel info (we had a Mainstay Go Kiwi Silver Pass) and the names of companies we used. I'm a Lord of the Rings fan, so you will see a few references to the book and films.
April 20th-24th

12 hours on a plane is a really long time - they showed two NZ travel
features, four movies, about three hours of TV shows, and a Lord of the
Rings feature. Since neither of us slept very well on the plane, we saw
parts of most of them. It got dark at 7:30 in Los Angeles, and it was
still dark when we arrived in Auckland 16 hours later! We took the 11:30 p.m. flight, which was not overly full. We had an empty seat between us, and appreciated the extra room.

We had some difficulty getting out of the airport, thanks to all the
roundabouts, but we got them figured out eventually and headed southeast
to Whakatane. Steve, from this forum, gave us great directions, enabling us to enjoy a really lovely, scenic drive. Thanks, Steve!

You know how you always see pigeons and squirrels at rest stops in the US?
Well, here you see...chickens. Yes, chickens gone wild. You stop the
car, open the door, and here they come! We thought it was odd the first
time, but after three or four stops, we couldn't stop laughing.

We drove through a number of older towns, some from the NZ gold rush (Paeroa and Ngatea, among others).
They look like early 20th-century towns in the Eastern US; immaculately
kept gardens and sort of Victorian architecture. Old cemeteries are
tucked in here and there along the hillsides.

We had lunch in a little town called Katikati, which has a lot of neat
historical murals painted on the buildings.

Whakatane is a pretty little town on the Bay of Plenty, on the east coast
of NZ. We spent the night at Lloyds Lodge, a backpackers (hostel) in a
70-year old house. Lloyd was the father of Pam, the owner, and she named
the hostel to honor him. Pam was great - very helpful and friendly. It
felt more like just staying in someone's home.

Pam's husband, Hare (Hah-ray), is Maori, and since there were a number of
new people staying with them last night, he gave us a traditional Maori
welcome in the evening. He sang some songs in Maori, told us the story
of how Whakatane was originally settled when the Maori came to New
Zealand, and helped us learn how to pronounce Maori words by teaching us
a song. He called that
section of the evening Maori-oke. <g>

This morning we went out into the bay for our dolphin swim with Whales and Dolphin Watch. Unfortunately, the dolphins weren't as welcoming as Pam and Hare - they
didn't show. <g> Doug, the skipper, saw two, but we never found a whole
group. I did see a flying fish, though - very cool!

Since we didn't find any dolphins, Doug took us to Whale Island, where we saw natural rock arches, baby seals and shags (a kind of cormorant). When they can't find dolphins, they give you the option of going out again the next day for free or a partial refund. Since we were moving on, we took the refund.

You definitely smell Rotorua once you arrive, since it sits in an active
volcanic area. There is a little vent spewing out hot water and steam right
outside the door to the pool at our hotel, the Lake Plaza.

We attended a Maori concert and hangi at the Te Whakarewarewa Thermal Reserve, which was one of the highlights of the trip. Many of the hotels offer an evening hangi and concert, but we wanted something that would feel more real. Our guide picked a French guy
to be our group's "chief," and he had to give the response to the
warriors who challenged us upon our arrival. Fortunately the poor guy
had someone in his group who could tell him what he was supposed to do,
since he didn't speak much English.

After the challenge and response, we were welcomed into the whare (the
meeting house), where the men and women danced, sang, and demonstrated
some of the weapons and other ceremonial items they used.

After the concert, we went to the dining hall for the feast. It might be
the best meal we'll have while we're here! Lots of fresh seafood, lamb,
pork, chicken, veges including kumara (the
Maori sweet potato), and a bunch of great desserts, plus a really nice
cheese and cracker tray. After dinner, they lit up the geothermal area
for us, with geysers spouting and billowing steam everywhere.

Both Ross and I have been waking up at weird times throughout this trip, so when Ross couldn't get back to sleep the next morning in Rotorua, he got up at 6:30 and went out to explore the town. As we mentioned, Rotorua is part of an active geothermal area, and it was weirdly beautiful walking around that early in the morning with steam rising from vents all over the place.

We walked around Rotorua a bit later in the morning, and drove to Ohinemutu, a Maori area at the edge of Lake Rotorua. We drove past Kuirau Park, where they had a volcanic explosion about four years ago; you can see the scorched trees in the park. Ohinemutu has steam rising out of the drains alongside the road and most everyone has some kind of steam vent in their back yards. We went to St. Faith's Anglican Church. It has a glass window with an etching of Christ wearing a traditional Maori feather cloak, done so that it looks like He is walking on the lake.

Next we headed south to Wai-o-tapu Thermal Wonderland, and saw a variety of boiling mud pools, steam vents, geysers, and a bubbling "champagne lake" with carbon dioxide bubbles, lots of steam rising from the surface, and a variety of colors from the various minerals in the water.

We drove through Taupo, a pretty little town on the edge of Lake Taupo. The lake is a huge volcanic crater lake.

Late in the afternoon, we arrived at Tongariro National Park, our final destination for the day. The late afternoon light shone over the plains and on Mount Tongariro and Ngauruhoe, two of the active volcanoes in the park. We planned to walk the Tongariro Crossing, which crosses the saddle between the two mountains, the next day, and we both felt apprehensive and intimidated seeing just how big those mountains are! The sight of steam coming out the side of Tongariro didn't help much. <g> The scenery was really stunning, and our hotel sat at the base of Mt. Ruapehu, the third active volcano in the park.

We got up Friday morning to catch the shuttle to the start of the Crossing, went outside, and saw both mountains were covered in cloud. We decided it was a pretty good sign that we shouldn't try the hike - we had warm clothes and rain gear with us, but no compass, which the lists at the visitors' center said would be helpful in cloudy weather.

We weren't all that impressed with our room at the Skotel (nice wood paneling, but very tiny), so we decided to check out and head for Wellington a day early. We did the Taranaki Falls Walk, a 1 1/2-2 hour loop, which was quite a bit shorter, not nearly as strenuous, and a very lovely combination of tussocky grassland, forest, and waterfalls. Peter Jackson could easily have used this area for Ithilien or Fangorn Forest!

Before we left the park, we drove up the road to Whakapapa Ski Field, where some of the Mordor and Emyn Muil scenery was shot. When we got there, mist was blowing across the rocks, and it looked quite a bit like the scenes of Frodo and Sam trying to find a way out of the Emyn Muil at the beginning of The Two Towers.

After we locked the keys in the car in Ohakune, and changed the flat tire outside Ohingaiti, we eventually got to Wellington Friday evening. We stayed on the tenth floor of the Bay Plaza Hotel, overlooking the harbor and the famous Te Papa Museum, and we're a block from the Embassy Theatre, where the world premiere for Return of the King was held in December.

Ross went out on another early morning foray this morning and drove up Mt. Victoria, which is right behind our hotel. He found the "get off the road" location from Fellowship of the Ring, and we'll go up there tomorrow before we leave town to take some pictures.

We spent the day at Te Papa, which is an incredible museum. It combines natural history, science and industry, New Zealand history, and art, with a great kids' area. The Maori history section was particularly interesting; they let the Maori speak for themselves and the tensions between the Maori and Pakeha (Europeans) are evident.

We made sure to go into the Lord of the Rings Exhibition Store at the museum, where we saw a very cool replica of Aragorn's Ranger sword, the shards of Narsil, and one of the Lorien cloaks. If you have $1900, you can have your very own cloak, too! It was really gorgeous, though...

We took a short break at the hotel, then walked up to the Embassy Theatre to take a look inside. They did extensive refurbishing in preparation for the Return of the King premiere, and when we opened the door to the theater itself, we were able to catch the last hour of Return of the King - an unexpected bonus! People from all over the world donated money to help pay to renovate the theater before Return of the King's premiere, including the cast and crew of the films. I now have a nice picture of myself sitting in Viggo Mortensen's seat. <g>

April 25th-29th

We were going to try to go to church Sunday morning, but decided we had time to make a quick trip up Mount Victoria to the Shire sites before the service started. We drove up to the summit, got out, and were standing there with our Lord of the Rings Location Guidebook, trying to decide if we were at the right spot or not.

I looked up, and coming toward us were Richard Taylor, head of Weta Workshop and Weta Digital, his wife Tania Rodger, and their son Samuel! "Hey, he would know which way to go!" I said. Richard and Tania and their crew did all the special effects, makeup, props, armor, furniture, etc., etc. for the movies. I must say meeting them was extremely cool! They were really nice and very helpful.

We chatted for a few minutes, commiserated about driving on the wrong side of the road, took pictures, and had them sign our book, as well as give us directions to the correct path. They live on Mt. Victoria, and Richard really pushed to use it as a location for the film when Peter Jackson and the producers hadn't wanted to. The folks at Weta are working on King Kong and The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe now.

We drove down the hill a bit further and found the "get off the road" site (not the one Ross went to the day before) and then the spot where they put the big tree with the roots that the hobbits hid under when the Black Rider came. By this time, unfortunately, we had to miss church.

After checking out of the hotel, we visited a farmers' market across the street and bought some really tasty kiwifruit and a feijoa. It's some kind of tropical fruit that's pretty tasty.

We drove around part of the harbor, along Oriental Bay, to Miramar, and found Weta Workshop and Weta Digital; we also drove down Stone Street but didn't find Stone Street Studios.

After a couple of attempts, we were able to make our way out of Wellington to Upper Hutt and Kaitoke Regional Park, the location for Rivendell.

This was one place in NZ that was clearly marked and easy to find! <g> They had a sign with pictures from Fellowship of the Ring to help you picture what things looked like in the area. It was really lovely, green, and peaceful there - a perfect location for "the last Homely House East of the Sea." Ross climbed down to the river and took a picture looking at where part of the set was built.

I had spotted what looked like a shortcut from Upper Hutt to Highway 1 on our map, so Ross asked a woman in the parking lot about it. She said it (the Akatarawa Road) was narrow and twisty, but it would take about the same amount of time as going back down to Lower Hutt and taking a different road, so we decided to take the Akatarawa Road.

Narrow and twisty was an understatement! Most of the way it was basically a one-lane road with two-way traffic, hugging a very uneven mountainside with hairpin turns every 100 meters or so. NZ drivers don't move over until practically the last second, so it was a rather harrowing experience. Ross said, in his best Gimli imitation, "Akatawara - what madness drove them in there?" <g> By the end, his arms were tired from all the curves in the road, but on the rare occasions when the road straightened out a bit, the scenery was gorgeous.

We eventually got to Wanganui that evening; it seemed like it took a long time after our adventure on the Akatarawa Road, though it's only a couple of hours from Wellington. Apparently they had had quite a bit of flooding in February or March, though things were back to normal when we were there. We were glad we hadn't scheduled our trip for earlier in the year. We stayed at the Avenue Hotel, which was probably the newest hotel we used during the trip - a nice room.

Our destination Monday was Mt. Taranaki/Egmont National Park, which is only a couple of hours from Wanganui. Taranaki looks quite a bit like Mt. Fuji in Japan, and it and the surrounding area was used to film The Last Samurai. The mountain tends to dominate the scenery in this area, which consists of gently rolling farmland.

We stopped in Stratford, the only town I know of where all the streets take their names from Shakespeare's plays. Their war memorial was still surrounded with small white crosses with the names of their war dead. We went into a takeaway shop and ordered fish and chips. We got four huge pieces of really fresh battered and fried fish and a ton of chips, enough for lunch with chips leftover for dinner. It was cheaper than McDonald's, too! I was sort of surprised, for some reason, to find American fast food restaurants in New Zealand, but we only ate in them a couple of times. McDonald's was more expensive than the fish and chips place, too, but in the NZ version of McDonald's big breakfast, you get those really good sausages, so it was a little different, and the chicken satay sandwich at Subway was tasty. <g>

It was just a few miles from Stratford to our destination, the Missing Leg Backpackers in Egmont Village. By the time we got there, it was cloudy and starting to sprinkle, so we found our room, put on our rain gear, and drove to the North Egmont Visitor Center in Egmont National Park. We walked the Ngatoro Loop Track, which was just gorgeous. It was filled with huge, old mossy trees, and reminded me of Tolkien's description of Fangorn Forest. Walking along the track in the cool, cloudy, misty weather was a pleasure.

The Missing Leg is run by Jo and Brian, a couple of back-to-the-land types. The chickens came running when we got back, and we fed them a few of our crackers. We picked herbs to go with our lamb chop dinner from their herb garden, kept the wood stove burning, and took a look at their beehive. The fence along the road is lined with all kinds of bicycles, large and small. Brian said he started putting his own bikes along the fence as sort of a gimmick to help people find the hostel. Eventually people started adding bikes to the fence and taking bikes if they needed one. He said all the kids' bikes are always gone by Christmas, but people always add more to the collection.

For travelers on a budget, New Zealand hostels are a wonderful resource. All three of the ones we stayed in were quite nice, though the foam mattress at the Missing Leg had a trough down the middle; no matter which way you turned, you ended up back in the center eventually. <g>

Tuesday, the 27th, we were off to Waitomo. It was a short drive again on SH 3 through the Awakino Gorge. The roads are all signposted for 100 km/hour, but usually you have to go around 80 because of the twists and turns. It was lovely traveling up the west coast with its black sand beaches, through the gorge along the Awakino River, then through more Shire-like country. We both had Howard Shore's Hobbit theme playing in our heads as we drove. It rained almost all the way, and was the wettest day of our trip.

The Waitomo Caves Hotel, which was on our hotel pass, was full, so we had arranged to stay at the Kiwi Paka YHA hostel, which was an option on Mainstay's Bronze hotel pass.

After lunch, we headed to Black Water Rafting for our Black Labyrinth cave tubing trip with Ray, our friendly and helpful guide. The six of us had to put on, over our swimsuits, rubber diving booties, a polypropelene pullover for extra warmth, a full-body rubber wetsuit, a rubber jacket, white rubber gumboots, and a helmet with headlamp. It definitely wasn't the most flattering outfit I've ever worn!

We drove down the road to the tube storage area, found a tube to fit our rear ends, then sat down in a line in our tubes so we could learn to steer. Ray taught us to paddle, to "eel" (hooking our feet under the arms of the person in front of us so we could all stay together), and what to do if he yelled "Rock (lift your bottom out of the tube, quick)!"

We drove down the road a bit farther to Ruakuri (den of dogs) Cave. There are no paved paths or lights ala Carlsbad Caverns here, just the lights on our helmets to help us see where to go. We walked further into the cave past stalactites and flowstone, with the stream growing stronger under our gumboots. After a couple of minutes, we sat down, turned off our lamps, and looked at a bunch of glowworms on the ceiling while Ray explained what a glowworm was and taught us about their life cycle.

We got in our tubes and floated downstream for a while before we got to the exciting part - jumping backward, holding our tubes behind us, off a 6-8 feet high waterfall! Ray gave us the option of jumping off facing forward with the tube around us, but somehow that sounded scarier than doing it backward. Aside from the water I got up my nose when I landed, it was really fun.

We grabbed a rope along the edge of the stream, got into our "eel," turned off our headlamps, and floated through the darkness, watching the thousands of blue-green glowworm lights above us. It looked like the Milky Way, just beautiful!

After about an hour underground, we saw light, climbed out of the other end of the cave, and went back to Black Water Rafting. There we showered, changed, rinsed out our wetsuits, and went up to the cafe for hot tomato soup and bagels. Though the air and water temperatures really didn't feel all that cold to me, we'd been able to see our breath in the cave, so the hot shower felt great.

Ray told us that the path we took out of the cave, the Ruakuri Bushwalk, was a good place to see more glowworms, so after our snack, we got our flashlight and drove back to the path. There were lots of glowworms along the sides of the path under ledges and bushes. We turned off the flashlight and just stood there for a few minutes admiring the lights and listening to the night birds.

Possums were introduced to New Zealand in the late 1800s, and since they have no natural predators, they are a real pest, eating something like 400 truckloads of vegetation a night. They are a different kind of possum than we have in the States - big, with brown fur, long bushy tails, and pointy ears. Running over possums is practically a national sport in New Zealand; people swerve out of their lanes to get one, and it's always open season for possum hunting. However, Ross declined to run over the one we saw in the road on the way back to the hostel. He thought perhaps the rental car company wouldn't like it. <g>

Wednesday, April 28th, we stopped at the Cave Museum, since tickets were included in our cave tubing trip. They had an interesting multi-media presentation about the glowworms. From there, we headed to Auckland. Since Auckland is NZ's biggest city, we called the hotel to get directions before we left Waitomo.

Aoteroa means "The Land of the Long White Cloud" in Maori, but we decided it most likely means "The Land of Bad Directions." We found our freeway exit fine, and turned onto Queen Street (the main street in the heart of downtown) with no problems. Whoever Ross talked to said to turn right on Victoria St. West, pull up in front of the hotel, and come in to register. However, they didn't tell us that the hotel was on the south side of the street and that there wasn't any place on the north side to park. We eventually managed to turn around and pull over in front of the hotel, but we couldn't park there because it was a loading zone. They hadn't bothered to tell us we could have parked in the bus stop. I jumped out and went in to register, and Ross drove around the corner to find the carpark. Unfortunately, they had told Ross which street to turn on, but not that he had to take a left turn off that street to get to the garage.

When I got in, they gave me a map to the carpark and said we should park first, then come in to register. So I went outside, waited for Ross to drive around the block again, got back in, and we were finally able to find the garage. By this time, Ross was a bit irritated, and he let the manager know that they needed to give better directions. They upgraded our room to a two-bedroom apartment, though, which was really nice. We had plenty of room to spread out, a full kitchen, and a washer and dryer. We used the second bedroom to store our suitcases and repack everything before we left.

We walked down to the Ferry Building and took the ferry to Devonport, a little village on the north shore of Auckland. It was a pleasant 15-minute ride across the harbor. Devonport has a lot of Edwardian buildings, and we picked up a map and took the Old Devonport Walk past historic churches and pretty little cottages. It was peaceful and relaxing, especially after the hassle of trying to find the hotel.

The ferry was just pulling away from the dock as we arrived, and we had to jump to make it. It was probably a good thing I didn't have time to think about what I was doing! The sun was going down, and the lights of the city were lovely.

We took it easy that night - just did some window shopping, fixed dinner, and found an Internet cafe to send out a report.

Thursday morning, the 29th, we drove to the Auckland Domain (a big park) and spent an hour in the Auckland Museum. It needed more time, but we had to return our rental car, so we only visited the very extensive Maori exhibits on the first floor.

The 4:15 Air NZ flight from Auckland to Los Angeles was pretty full. The two women in our row of seats had hoped to be able to move to a different row so they could stretch out, but there wasn't room. I don't know if this particular flight is usually full, but I suspect it would be since it gets into Los Angeles around 9:00 a.m.

If you read this whole thing, good for you! <g> We loved New Zealand, and would go back again.

Lee Ann

Jed May 17th, 2004 10:34 AM

Thanks for the interesting report. ((F))

Kiwi_acct May 17th, 2004 03:01 PM

Lee Ann

I'm glad you enjoyed your trip. Great trip report. It certainly sounds like you saw a lot of the North Island.

Good to hear that my directions to Whakatane where useful to you.

Hope to have you back here some time. Maybe next time you will get a chance to see the South Island. If you enjoyed the North you will be blown away by the South.



LoisL May 17th, 2004 03:30 PM

Elendi, I enjoyed your trip report emmensely. It brought back wonderful memories of when we were there almost a year and a half ago. I agree with Kiwi's comment. We did the north island first, and it was wonderful. We were impressed with the scenery, and of course, the people were wonderful. Then we took the ferry to the South Island. When we got home I couldn't figure out what some of the pictures were, since they seemed sort of ordinary. That's when I realized they were of the scenery on North Island. You have to experience South Island to understand. It is the most amazing place I've been to, ever. We joked about how many "Oh Wow's" we had said, since that seemed to be our most prevelent dialogue! If you loved the North Island, you should try to get back to NZ and head to the South Island. It's something I will never forget. Thanks again for your very descriptive trip report.

Brushtail May 20th, 2004 01:04 AM

Hi Lee Ann,

I really enjoyed your trip report, my husband and I went to NZ in March and we went to quite a few places that you did. He also had sore arms from the windy roads, particularly the scary one into Wellington.

Being Lord of the Rings fans ourselves, we spent a bit of time up Mt Victoria looking for the 'get off the road' tree and we also visited Hobbiton, near Matamata. That was a highlight of our trip and I bought Arwens Evenstar Pendant from Matamata. When I wear it and people comment, I tell them I bought it in Hobbiton. :-)

We also went up Mt Doom and felt like Frodo and Sam. AKA as Ruapehu to none rings fans.

You can read my trip report on this site if you do a search of Brushtail.

Meanwhile, enjoy this web site which shows web cams of Mt Ruapehu and Mt Taranaki.

What a time we have had.

Jenny (Brushtail)

flygirl Oct 11th, 2004 06:06 AM

thank you for your report, am starting to read up on NZ!

ElendilPickle Oct 11th, 2004 12:32 PM

You're welcome, Flygirl! When are you planning to visit?

Lee Ann

mover Oct 11th, 2004 07:07 PM

Lee Ann

Thanks for the trip report.

We leave on Nov 15th (same flight as yours) for our first time visit to NZ. We're planning on spending the first night in Auckland and then driving to Rotorua.

Lee an and/or Steve -
Any suggestions for the drive from Auckland to Rotorua? I had thought we would stop at Waitomo Caves but have no idea of how long a trip it is. Would like to hear your thoughts and suggestions for things to do and see along the way.

We had considered a concert and hangi dinner while in Rotorua but after reading some of the posts on this forum have become somewhat cool to the idea. We've been to the "Hawaiian Luaus" and found them VERY tacky and somewhat embarassing with the plastic leis and corny dances, et. al. However in your trip report you seemed to really enjoy it. Can you expand a little? Is it really a tacky, touristy show? Or is it something that shouldn't be missed?

The rest of our time in NZ will be in the South Island. I'll post a report when we return which will be after the first of the year.


ElendilPickle Oct 12th, 2004 10:01 AM

Steve can probably give you better ideas than I on what to do between Auckland and Rotorua; we drove to Whakatane from Auckland.

We signed up for the hangi knowing it was probably going to be a bit touristy. However, we wanted to get a glimpse into Maori culture, and figured the option we chose, the Mai Ora concert and hangi at Te Whakarewarewa Thermal Reserve, would be one of the best ways to do it. Te Whakarewarewa is the home of the New Zealand Maori Arts & Crafts Institute, so we thought they would have an interest in authenticity. Lots of hotels in Rotorua offer a concert/hangi evening, and we figured they would be pretty plastic.

We took a shuttle from our hotel to Te Whaka, and had a little time to look around before the evening started, which was nice.

We were divided into two groups by our tour guide, and a "chief" was appointed for each group. Once that was settled, our guide taught us a song we would need to sing later in the evening, and we walked to the entrance to the marae.

At the gate, we went through a typical Maori challenge and welcome. Several young men came out and challenged us as one laid down a fern leaf on the ground. Our "chiefs" each had to pick up the leaf, then the women sang and we were allowed to enter the whare (meeting house).

Once inside, we were seated and the men welcomed us in Maori by telling us who they were and explaining their geneaology. Each welcome was followed by a song. They also explained the significance of the whare and what all the parts of the building represented.

Our "chiefs" had to stand and respond with a welcome of their own, and we sang our song when they were done.

After that was finished, the men and women sang more songs, demonstrated how they used their weapons, and did a haka and a poi ball dance. The only thing that felt "touristy" to us was when we were asked to do the Hokey Pokey in Maori. It was silly but kind of fun trying to remember the Maori words for various body parts.

When the concert was finished, we went to the dining hall and had a very good dinner.

This evening was certainly different from the night before, when we were delighted to take part in a Maori welcoming ceremony at our hostel in Whakatane. Obviously, it was professionally done and contained a wider variety of entertainment, but there were many similarities.

Te Whakarewarewa is open during the day for tours, so you might enjoy visiting there without attending the Mai Ora evening. There's also the Ohinemutu section of Rotorua, which is worth a visit. You can meet craftspeople there, and see the church and cemetery.

Lee Ann

Kiwi_acct Oct 12th, 2004 08:05 PM

Hi there Mover

I hope I can help with some of the info you require.

If you are heading to Rotorua via Waitomo you will take longer than if you were to go direct. However, if you take this route it will give you the opportunity to see the glowworm caves at Waitomo and another small bonus is the kiwi house at nearby Otorohanga. (Link below)

You drive through Otorohanga before you get to Waitomo and the Kiwihouse is well signposted. There you will get the chance to see the symbol of NZ the flightless Kiwi.

Waitomo is not much futher on.

I have a link here that has travelling times. They are very generous with the times given as usually I can cover these distances a little quicker than this website allows for.

Basically it is around 2 3/4 hours from downtown Auckland to Waitomo and around 2 1/4 hours from Waitomo to Rotorua. If you were to travel directly you could cover the distance in around three hours (Less if you know the road).

If you do travel via Waitomo the scenery is significantly more stimulating than going direct to Rotorua which would mean travelling via Matamata and state highway 27 which is a little boring.

Do a search on Waitomo to check tour times of the caves and whether you can just rock up or whether you need to book. I am thinking the later may be the one given the popularity of the caves at various times of the year.

As far as Hangi concerts are concerned you have probably come accross some of my comments on here given your observations. The ones run by hotels seem to be the tackiest the ones run by Tamaki tours and the one at Whakarewarewa village appear to be the better ones, though both have a certain cringe factor.

There are several thermal reserve areas in and around Rotorua. The one at Whakarewarewa being the best known in the city itself there are others just south of town such as Waimangu. there is also a fairly well known one on the road toward Whakatane called Hells Gate. It is only about 15 minutes from Rotorua. Again easy to find. It also has a health spa attached.

There are other sites as well, best to do a search on Rotorua and Thermal reserves. You don't have to go far in Rotorua to see thermal activity. Most of the city parks have small hotpools in them, especially around Ohinemotu and the Hospital. Don't get to close to them though as if you fall in you will be badly burnt. Not all of them are fenced off.

Hope some of this helps


mover Oct 13th, 2004 02:40 AM

Lee Ann and Steve

Many thanks for the info. It is exactly what I was looking for.

Steve - We are planning on going from Auckland to Rotorua via Waitomo. We have ALL day to make the journey and our reason for being there is to see the sights. The Kiwi House looks VERY interesting. After looking at the site, I would guess that we should allow a good couple of hours to explore the grounds. Then on to Waitomo for their 45 minute tour which goes every half hour during the day.

I checked the sunrise/sunset calendar and on November 18 it appears that sunset isn't until 8:20pm. That gives us plenty of daylight driving time for the Auckland to Rotorua excursion.

As for the hangi dinner and "cultural" experience, I think we will wait until we get to Rotorua and see how we feel about it then. I would imagine that we don't have to book ahead.

Again, many thanks for rhe info. I've got my notes printed out because US old folks suffer from lack of memory.


mosthecat Oct 13th, 2004 01:29 PM

We drove Auckland to Rotorua, stopping in Waitomo, all in one day. Wasn't hard to do. This was our first real driving, and it was no problem. loved seeing goats thethered to mailboxes in smaller towns. we stopped at the VIC at Waitomo, and they helped us choose and book the innertube/rafting tour of the caves. Loved it. We decided no hangi for us, and just wanted an easy Chinese dinner. A few minutes after we were seated, a busload of tourists entered, followed by the participants in a hangi show. We had fun, but it was as cheesy as we expected, and a bit odd, between egg rolls and Mu Shu.

aussiedreamer Dec 14th, 2011 09:45 PM

ElendilPickle, an oldie but a goodie.

Just trying to quickly plan a week on the North Island, I've written down lots of places from your T/R.


ElendilPickle Dec 15th, 2011 10:42 AM

You're welcome! I'm glad it's still helpful.

Lee Ann

annhig Apr 11th, 2013 02:05 PM

yep, still really good info, thanks!

ElendilPickle Apr 13th, 2013 11:14 AM

Glad I can help, annhig.

Lee Ann

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