McLeod's Daughters - just wondering
Aug 24th, 2005, 10:02 AM
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Neil: I just don't like being neuter gendered - if the reverse were to happen you would be singing better than soprano.
As for cultural cringe, you bet I have it when it comes to acting ( or the lack thereof) in Australian productions. Of course there are the odd ones that are good but overall its pretty aweful. You could equally say that we should develop and make aircraft in Australia - we have the know how and the people but why would we when there are perfectly good one being made in other places. Its a global stage now and why not just rely on the best there is from wherever it is and not worry about "Australian content". If Australian content is what everyone wants then can you please tell me the relevence of the adds for Bundaberg Rum ( seeing that I grew up there) as I cannot for the life of me see what a Polar Bear has to do with Rum, Bundy or otherwise. Is this an indication of the talent we have? Oh yes, and I have certainly gone off the beer that has to be opened with one's belly button. On the plus side I do tend to like Marlin the dog so I guess I will go with whatever that is.
As for cultural cringe, you bet I have it when it comes to acting ( or the lack thereof) in Australian productions. Of course there are the odd ones that are good but overall its pretty aweful. You could equally say that we should develop and make aircraft in Australia - we have the know how and the people but why would we when there are perfectly good one being made in other places. Its a global stage now and why not just rely on the best there is from wherever it is and not worry about "Australian content". If Australian content is what everyone wants then can you please tell me the relevence of the adds for Bundaberg Rum ( seeing that I grew up there) as I cannot for the life of me see what a Polar Bear has to do with Rum, Bundy or otherwise. Is this an indication of the talent we have? Oh yes, and I have certainly gone off the beer that has to be opened with one's belly button. On the plus side I do tend to like Marlin the dog so I guess I will go with whatever that is.
Aug 24th, 2005, 09:05 PM
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So true, Liz .. the sunnies-wearing polar bear connection to Bundy rum has mystified me too. And camels driving cars. Not to mention a mob of swarming ants to sell underwear 
But of course the focus here is not on art or logic, but solely on sales/profits.
Comparing multi-nationals producing consumer products on an assembly line with the local acting/theatre/movie industry is a bit confusing, though,
as one requires individual creativity and imagination, and the other ear-plugs and overalls
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I think it's perhaps the creative arts that make us most human and culturally-aware. A sense of belonging and pride. But I agree, the awful ones make ya cringe!
Like the first time I saw the belly-button beer opening ad ... I was so shocked by the first bit, as the bottle just disappeared downwards out of sight and my impression was it went much lower, so that actually I was relieved when it was propelled from her <i>navel</i>! Lol!
But of course the focus here is not on art or logic, but solely on sales/profits.
Comparing multi-nationals producing consumer products on an assembly line with the local acting/theatre/movie industry is a bit confusing, though,
as one requires individual creativity and imagination, and the other ear-plugs and overalls
.I think it's perhaps the creative arts that make us most human and culturally-aware. A sense of belonging and pride. But I agree, the awful ones make ya cringe!
Like the first time I saw the belly-button beer opening ad ... I was so shocked by the first bit, as the bottle just disappeared downwards out of sight and my impression was it went much lower, so that actually I was relieved when it was propelled from her <i>navel</i>! Lol!
Aug 24th, 2005, 10:08 PM
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Liz, there are so many gender-neutral job titles out there that Italy might be more your cup of tea (il professore/la professoressa, il dottore/la dottoressa, etc)? Seriously, I haven't heard "authoress" since ... oh, about the time I last heard "air hostess".
FurryTiles: ...and that was exactly the image they wanted to convey, wasn't it? Why is it that the trendy young airheads in the advertising industry assume that anyone who drinks beer must be an uncouth moron? (Oh, apart from the people who drink trendy premium brands, that is - this is starting to look like class-consciousness.)
FurryTiles: ...and that was exactly the image they wanted to convey, wasn't it? Why is it that the trendy young airheads in the advertising industry assume that anyone who drinks beer must be an uncouth moron? (Oh, apart from the people who drink trendy premium brands, that is - this is starting to look like class-consciousness.)
Aug 24th, 2005, 11:34 PM
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What I am saying F & N is that I would hate to think that ANY of my tax money would go to people like Hugo Weaving, Bryan Brown, and all the others like them to do the bl..dy same c... that has graced our sceens for decades. They are so second rate that if what I say is what you call cultural cringe then I have a big dose of it. I can't even remember the names of the rest of them but I am sure that their egos are about the size of Barges and about as graceful on screen. The ones that are good have gone overseas where they can at least ply their trade without having to work with moronic side-kicks. I am not against *Art* but it has to be of good quality not just art for arts sake and esoteric garbage.
Finally I still reckon there was someone under the table who opened the bottle of beer and the navel didn't do it!
Finally I still reckon there was someone under the table who opened the bottle of beer and the navel didn't do it!
Aug 24th, 2005, 11:51 PM
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Well, it sounds more or less that you are all as "thrilled" with your TV shows in Australia as we are here in the states. NOT!
Again, my apologies that you have "Desperate Housewifes". Seems like that is the best we can come up with. And that is a sad situation to be sure. I can't join in the debate because after reading this thead three times I am still not sure what everyone is saying. We do have the same language although the slang certainly isn't.
Now about that belly button beer opening ad...and I thought our advertisements were bad!
Hugs to all from California.
Again, my apologies that you have "Desperate Housewifes". Seems like that is the best we can come up with. And that is a sad situation to be sure. I can't join in the debate because after reading this thead three times I am still not sure what everyone is saying. We do have the same language although the slang certainly isn't.
Now about that belly button beer opening ad...and I thought our advertisements were bad!
Hugs to all from California.
Aug 25th, 2005, 12:19 AM
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I don't think throwing tax money into film making is working. We throw tax dollars into subsidising the education of doctors and nurses and after a year or two too many pack up for better money overseas.
The same happens within the acting industry.
However we need doctors and nurses and should spend more to keep them here rather than spend money on actors who, if successful, end up in hollywood doing American TV with American accents. They don't even sell Australian talent by keeping an Aussie accent. Waste of taxpayer money.
As for film being a social commentary, a true artist is supposed to be starving so a lack of funds should not disuade them. If one has a passion for what they do rather than an open chequebook you will find a better social commentary imho.
It is perhaps because of tax dollars, film became copycat rather than unique.
The same happens within the acting industry.
However we need doctors and nurses and should spend more to keep them here rather than spend money on actors who, if successful, end up in hollywood doing American TV with American accents. They don't even sell Australian talent by keeping an Aussie accent. Waste of taxpayer money.
As for film being a social commentary, a true artist is supposed to be starving so a lack of funds should not disuade them. If one has a passion for what they do rather than an open chequebook you will find a better social commentary imho.
It is perhaps because of tax dollars, film became copycat rather than unique.
Aug 25th, 2005, 01:13 AM
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This has absolutely nothing to do with McLeod's Daughters or Restless Housewives and belly buttons opening beer bottles but it does show that at least the thoughts about the contents of the bottle across the Pacific is somewhat similiar - even if the slang isn't.
S'pse the Fodors Fairies will remove this:
"Sometimes when I reflect back on all the wine I drink
I feel shame Then I look into the glass and think
about the workers in the vineyards and all of their hopes
and dreams If I didn't drink this wine, they might be out
of work and their dreams would be shattered. Then I say
to myself, "It is better that I drink this wine and let their
dreams come true than be selfish and worry about my liver."
~ Jack Handy
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may leave you wondering what the hell happened to your bra and panties.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they
wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're
going to feel all day. "
~Frank Sinatra
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may create the illusion that you are tougher, smarter, faster and better looking than most people.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading."
~ Henny Youngman
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may lead you to think people are laughing WITH you.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case. Coincidence?
I think not."
~ Stephen Wright
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may cause you to think you can sing.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"When we drink, we get drunk. When we get drunk,
we fall asleep. When we fall asleep, we commit no sin.
When we commit no sin, we go to heaven. So, let's all
get drunk and go to heaven!"
~ Brian O'Rourke
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may cause pregnancy.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants
us to be happy."
~ Benjamin Franklin
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol is a major factor in dancing like a retard.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Without question, the greatest invention in the
history of mankind is beer. Oh, I grant you that the
wheel was also a fine invention, but the wheel does
not go nearly as well with pizza."
~ Dave Barry
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may cause you to tell your friends over and over again that you love them.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
To some it's a six-pack, to me it's a Support Group. Salvation in a can!
~ Dave Howell
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may make you think you can logically converse with members of the opposite sex without spitting.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
And saving the best for last, as explained by Cliff Clavin,
of Cheers. One afternoon at Cheers, Cliff Clavin was explaining the Buffalo Theory to his buddy Norm.
Here's how it went:
"Well ya see, Norm, it's like this... A herd of buffalo
can only move as fast as the slowest buffalo. And when
the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones
at the back that are killed first This natural selection is
good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the
regular killing of the weakest members. In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as fast as the
slowest brain cells. Excessive intake of alcohol, as we
know, kills brain cells. But naturally, it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine. That's why you always feel smarter after a few beers."
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may make you think you are whispering when you are not.
* ~ * ~ * Enjoy YOUR Journey
* ~ * ~ *
S'pse the Fodors Fairies will remove this:
"Sometimes when I reflect back on all the wine I drink
I feel shame Then I look into the glass and think
about the workers in the vineyards and all of their hopes
and dreams If I didn't drink this wine, they might be out
of work and their dreams would be shattered. Then I say
to myself, "It is better that I drink this wine and let their
dreams come true than be selfish and worry about my liver."
~ Jack Handy
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may leave you wondering what the hell happened to your bra and panties.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they
wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're
going to feel all day. "
~Frank Sinatra
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may create the illusion that you are tougher, smarter, faster and better looking than most people.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading."
~ Henny Youngman
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may lead you to think people are laughing WITH you.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case. Coincidence?
I think not."
~ Stephen Wright
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may cause you to think you can sing.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"When we drink, we get drunk. When we get drunk,
we fall asleep. When we fall asleep, we commit no sin.
When we commit no sin, we go to heaven. So, let's all
get drunk and go to heaven!"
~ Brian O'Rourke
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may cause pregnancy.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants
us to be happy."
~ Benjamin Franklin
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol is a major factor in dancing like a retard.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Without question, the greatest invention in the
history of mankind is beer. Oh, I grant you that the
wheel was also a fine invention, but the wheel does
not go nearly as well with pizza."
~ Dave Barry
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may cause you to tell your friends over and over again that you love them.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
To some it's a six-pack, to me it's a Support Group. Salvation in a can!
~ Dave Howell
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may make you think you can logically converse with members of the opposite sex without spitting.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
And saving the best for last, as explained by Cliff Clavin,
of Cheers. One afternoon at Cheers, Cliff Clavin was explaining the Buffalo Theory to his buddy Norm.
Here's how it went:
"Well ya see, Norm, it's like this... A herd of buffalo
can only move as fast as the slowest buffalo. And when
the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones
at the back that are killed first This natural selection is
good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the
regular killing of the weakest members. In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as fast as the
slowest brain cells. Excessive intake of alcohol, as we
know, kills brain cells. But naturally, it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine. That's why you always feel smarter after a few beers."
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may make you think you are whispering when you are not.
* ~ * ~ * Enjoy YOUR Journey
* ~ * ~ *
