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Feb 8th, 2011, 11:09 AM
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Do you agree with the Fodors tip of the day re tipping in Australia.

"Tip: Be prepared to tip for these services in Australia.

Hotels and restaurants don't usually add service charges, so a 10%-15% tip for good service is normal. Room service & housemaids are only tipped for special services. Taxi drivers, guides, tour-bus drivers, & chauffeurs don't expect tips. No tipping is necessary--indeed, it would cause confusion--in hair salons or for theater ushers."

I live in New Zealand where there is not tipping, and I thought the same applied in Australia. I have never tipped when I have visited and believe that is not expected and is not normal to tip for good service.

I have started a post in the lounge asking Fodors not to post incorrect information. A couple of interesting responses so far.

What do you think of the tip of the day. Correct or incorrect?
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Feb 8th, 2011, 12:39 PM
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I think that info is largely correct, in Sydney in most restaurants (not cafes) 10% tip is what you would expect to give for good service. I do tip taxi drivers usually just rounding it up.

Nelsonian, I think Australia and New Zealand differ a lot on this. When I was a waitress I noticed New Zealanders don't usually tip, whereas about 70% of Australians do. In the service industry here, Kiwis are kind of notorious.
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Feb 8th, 2011, 01:29 PM
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I always tip even if not required unless the service is so............bad as to warrant no tip. However as we all know prices are not cheap in Australia so while I may not tip as well as in US where 20% is the norm I do tip between 10-15%.
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Feb 8th, 2011, 06:25 PM
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We never tip. It doesn't realy cross our mind.

We would tip a waiter if the service was really, really above and beyond. Have done this once or twice.

Would never, and have never tipped any other service staff, hairdressers, hotels etc.

Pizza etc. deliveries are the only exception, most people will round up to the nearest dollar or five. Some people will give good tips.

But I think there is now a bit of an expectation/hope that you will tip in restaurants.

The closest you would come to tipping in Australia is providing some beer, tea/coffee cake for a builder/gardener doing things around your home. But this is more a courtesy than a requirement or expectation.

I have have worked hard to earn my money. You have to work hard to get it from me. Not just turn up. This is the general attitude.
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Feb 8th, 2011, 06:26 PM
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PS - Where is the tip of the day located?
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Feb 8th, 2011, 06:50 PM
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On the very front page as you go into Fodors. However they also posted it on Facebook which is where I read it first.
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Feb 8th, 2011, 07:25 PM
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I never go there. I just bookmark the lounge and Australia.
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Feb 8th, 2011, 08:07 PM
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You don't have to PeterSale, its on the RHS of the front page of Australian forum right now.

Nelsonian, I think its pretty true, namely tip 10% in a restaurant with table service, as long as you're happy with service and meal, round up for taxi drivers and the pizza delivery person (or give them a bit more), but definitely not for hairdressers or theatre ushers. I know my hairdresser would be insulted if I tried to tip her.
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Feb 9th, 2011, 04:22 AM
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As per my comment on 'tip of the day' - this is not accurate or helpful information.
Australia does not have set percentage tipping - and the tipping there is is entirely discretionary.
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Feb 9th, 2011, 07:05 AM
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Hi Nelsonian - Thanks for bringing this to our attention here and in the tip comments.

There's definitely something wrong and we're in the process of correcting this tip now.
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Feb 9th, 2011, 08:41 AM
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Revised tip: Know when to tip—and not to tip—in Australia

Australians don't expect tips and hotels and restaurants don't usually add service charges. That said, a small tip for good service is common practice and appreciated. Room service and housemaids are only tipped for special services. Taxi drivers don't expect a tip, but leaving small change will win you a smile. Guides, tour bus drivers, and chauffeurs don't expect tips either, though they're grateful if someone in the group takes up a collection for them. No tipping is necessary—indeed, it would cause confusion—in hair salons or for theater ushers.
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Feb 9th, 2011, 01:51 PM
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Cate, I think this is now more misleading! Restaurant staff do expect tips for good service, especially in medium to upmarket restaurants.

From my experience, 10% is what by far and away the majority of Australians tip when they have had good service and good food.

Yes there are people that don't tip, and waiting staff have a name for them
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Feb 9th, 2011, 05:06 PM
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I disagree that "10% is what by far and away the majority of Australians tip" - simply not true in my experience. Generally, there is no reason to tip. Unlike the U.S., where wait staff are paid minimum wage (for example $7.25/hour in Florida, $4.23 for staff who receive tips), Australian staff are better paid - and there is simply no reason to tip someone for doing their job. As for people that don't tip and what waiting staff call them, I suggest "good customers" would be a place to start.
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Feb 9th, 2011, 08:26 PM
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I agree with tt7 - and let's not import this American and European custom downunder.
That said, we've always "rounded up" the bill at a restaurant to the nearest dollar or two, depending where you are.
It irks me no end in the USA, on top of $150plus overnight in hotels, to be expected to pay a tip to an underpaid "servant". Why can't the company who owns the joint pay their staff a decent wage out of my dollars!
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Feb 9th, 2011, 08:28 PM
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I disagree too but I am a New Zealander not Australian so don't really know what the status quo is. I have asked my SIL who is Australian, a doctor, a foodie, and goes out to restaurants a lot whether her and her friends tip or not.
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Feb 9th, 2011, 09:58 PM
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I don't tip here in Australia, but what do I know, I'm a Yank.
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Feb 10th, 2011, 02:44 AM
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It depends on the restaurant for us - if it's a higher end restaurant we'd round the bill up, up to about 10%. For small cafes we never tip unless they went above and beyond the call of duty. With taxis we routinely round up, especially if they help you with luggage. We don't tip anywhere else, but do provide tradesmen with drinks (removalists, etc.). I might add we live in Sydney - relatives of ours who lived on the North Coast would never, ever tip so I think the habit is more widespread in cities.

I used to have a boyfriend whose father used to leave a slab of beer (i.e. 24 cans) for the garbagemen at Christmas, so that if during the year they left anything on the pavement that was not typically removed by council, it would be dealt with by the garbagemen as a favour. I think those days have long gone, especially as councils are much tougher about what gets removed!

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Feb 10th, 2011, 01:09 PM
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I agree with lavandula and I live in Melbourne
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Feb 10th, 2011, 03:31 PM
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The milkman would get beer as well as the garbagemen. Tradesmen get coffee/tea and cakes and perhaps lunch if they are really good. I cannot see why taxi drivers should get a tip unless, as Lavandula said, they get your luggage out and in.
In restaurants I will tip if its a good service but certainly not as a must do thing.
A friend of mine in the hospitality industry in Australia says that the worst tippers are Americans!!!!! Doesn't matter what you do for them that is extra - they will not tip. So I think that the suggestion about tipping is a good one for Australia. If the service is good then you tip especially if you are American/Canadian.
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Feb 10th, 2011, 03:42 PM
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Why is your friend even expecting tips Mary, it has never been the norm, and it is only the fact that this custom has been brought in from other countries that it is becoming expected.
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